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TheLimla

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1,833 posts

209 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
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Some "more" years!

rscott

16,358 posts

206 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
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Loving the retro helmets:-


kiseca

9,339 posts

234 months

Thursday 20th May 2021
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rscott said:
Loving the retro helmets:-

they do look nice! I like the fake goggles on Lando's hehe

The Hypno-Toad

12,890 posts

220 months

Thursday 20th May 2021
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rscott said:
Loving the retro helmets:-

Those are very cool.

ajprice

30,681 posts

211 months

Wednesday 26th May 2021
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McLaren considering building a new chassis for Riccardo https://www.planetf1.com/news/mclaren-daniel-ricci...

I can't remember who, but a few years ago one driver was below par to what he should have been, they did a new chassis and found the original was damaged or not right in some way. New chassis and all was fine.

farm

164 posts

67 months

Wednesday 26th May 2021
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vettel

kiseca

9,339 posts

234 months

Wednesday 26th May 2021
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If you mean Vettel at Ferrari, if I recall it made no difference. However, I recall it happening somewhere in the past and they did find a problem.

If I recall, Prost had a change in 1988 when a chassis problem was found, and it's happened to someone else as well. I also can't remember who, nor can I remember what era except it was a carbon chassis so must have been after 1982 at least.

glazbagun

14,831 posts

212 months

Wednesday 26th May 2021
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Lewis had it in 2013 with Mercedes. His chassis was cracked and he was underperforming so they built him a new one.

talksthetorque

10,820 posts

150 months

Wednesday 26th May 2021
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Vandoorne. "The numbers" showed less downforce than Alonso's car apparently, they didn't know why.

https://www.racefans.net/2018/07/21/alonso-no-down...

majordad

3,627 posts

212 months

Wednesday 26th May 2021
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ajprice said:
McLaren considering building a new chassis for Riccardo https://www.planetf1.com/news/mclaren-daniel-ricci...

I can't remember who, but a few years ago one driver was below par to what he should have been, they did a new chassis and found the original was damaged or not right in some way. New chassis and all was fine.
I wonder if the same chassis’s is competing nowadays in Historic F1 ?

CanAm

11,174 posts

287 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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ajprice said:
McLaren considering building a new chassis for Riccardo https://www.planetf1.com/news/mclaren-daniel-ricci...

I can't remember who, but a few years ago one driver was below par to what he should have been, they did a new chassis and found the original was damaged or not right in some way. New chassis and all was fine.
Are you thinking of Lella Lombardi? She reported that her March felt unstable in right turns, but as a relative newcomer was ignored.The next year Ronnie Peterson inherited her old 751 (now renamed as a 761) and reported the same handling problem. The car needed to be retubbed after he crashed it. With a new tub, his performances were transformed so Max Mosley sent someone to look at the old discarded tub and found the cracked bulkhead. He later apologised to Lombardi, but it was too late to rescue her F1 career. (as posted in another Forum)

ajprice

30,681 posts

211 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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No I was thinking it was more recent than Lombardi, maybe Vettel, Vandoorne and Hamilton got mixed together in my memory as happening once, I don't remember the 3 different times hehe .

anonymous-user

69 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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751 and 761 use a different tub design.

carl_w

9,858 posts

273 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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kiseca said:
If you mean Vettel at Ferrari, if I recall it made no difference. However, I recall it happening somewhere in the past and they did find a problem.

If I recall, Prost had a change in 1988 when a chassis problem was found, and it's happened to someone else as well. I also can't remember who, nor can I remember what era except it was a carbon chassis so must have been after 1982 at least.
I also recall Mansell claiming that Ferrari swapped his and Prost's chassis.

thegreenhell

19,460 posts

234 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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There was a story I read, I think from Spa, years ago, when one of Fangio's teammates was quite a bit slower than him in practice. Thinking it might be due to a difference in car performance, Fangio went out in the slower driver's car and went faster than he had managed in his own car.

paua

7,014 posts

158 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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thegreenhell said:
There was a story I read, I think from Spa, years ago, when one of Fangio's teammates was quite a bit slower than him in practice. Thinking it might be due to a difference in car performance, Fangio went out in the slower driver's car and went faster than he had managed in his own car.
Not familiar with that anecdote, but not surprised - chap could pedal!
Can't remember which Magazine, but vaguely recall a story where he passed someone on the outside of some corner driving a Mangusta (?). F was in a Mercedes 4 door limo & waved with one hand as he went by. Silverstone '74? A press event?

M5-911

1,511 posts

60 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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thegreenhell said:
There was a story I read, I think from Spa, years ago, when one of Fangio's teammates was quite a bit slower than him in practice. Thinking it might be due to a difference in car performance, Fangio went out in the slower driver's car and went faster than he had managed in his own car.
I wonder how much of all those fairy tells stories we hear nowadays are actually true.

You just need to look at the movie Senna, people believe everything...

Edited by M5-911 on Friday 28th May 18:05

Blib

45,975 posts

212 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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Netflix is currently running a documentary on Fangio which includes many interviews with the great man.

In his first racing accident his Co driver was killed. Fangio blamed himself for the crash, even though circumstances meant they had to race at very short notice, at night, after little sleep.

Fascinating stuff.

Edited by Blib on Thursday 27th May 10:48

Smollet

13,332 posts

205 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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Blib said:
Netflix is currently running a documentary on Fangio which includes many interviews with the great man.

In his first racing accident his Co driver was killed. Fangio blamed himself for the crash, even though circumstances meant they had to race at very short notice, at night, after little sleep.

Fascinating stuff.

Edited by Blib on Thursday 27th May 10:48
Is that "a life of speed"

Blib

45,975 posts

212 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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Smollet said:
Is that "a life of speed"
Yes, that's the one.