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TheLimla

Original Poster:

1,727 posts

160 months

Wednesday 19th May
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Some "more" years!

rscott

12,051 posts

157 months

Wednesday 19th May
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Loving the retro helmets:-


kiseca

9,112 posts

185 months

Thursday 20th May
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rscott said:
Loving the retro helmets:-

they do look nice! I like the fake goggles on Lando's hehe

The Hypno-Toad

10,697 posts

171 months

Thursday 20th May
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rscott said:
Loving the retro helmets:-

Those are very cool.

ajprice

20,596 posts

162 months

Wednesday 26th May
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McLaren considering building a new chassis for Riccardo https://www.planetf1.com/news/mclaren-daniel-ricci...

I can't remember who, but a few years ago one driver was below par to what he should have been, they did a new chassis and found the original was damaged or not right in some way. New chassis and all was fine.

farm

29 posts

18 months

Wednesday 26th May
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vettel

kiseca

9,112 posts

185 months

Wednesday 26th May
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If you mean Vettel at Ferrari, if I recall it made no difference. However, I recall it happening somewhere in the past and they did find a problem.

If I recall, Prost had a change in 1988 when a chassis problem was found, and it's happened to someone else as well. I also can't remember who, nor can I remember what era except it was a carbon chassis so must have been after 1982 at least.

glazbagun

11,722 posts

163 months

Wednesday 26th May
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Lewis had it in 2013 with Mercedes. His chassis was cracked and he was underperforming so they built him a new one.

talksthetorque

9,060 posts

101 months

Wednesday 26th May
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Vandoorne. "The numbers" showed less downforce than Alonso's car apparently, they didn't know why.

https://www.racefans.net/2018/07/21/alonso-no-down...

majordad

3,404 posts

163 months

Wednesday 26th May
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ajprice said:
McLaren considering building a new chassis for Riccardo https://www.planetf1.com/news/mclaren-daniel-ricci...

I can't remember who, but a few years ago one driver was below par to what he should have been, they did a new chassis and found the original was damaged or not right in some way. New chassis and all was fine.
I wonder if the same chassis’s is competing nowadays in Historic F1 ?

CanAm

6,909 posts

238 months

Thursday 27th May
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ajprice said:
McLaren considering building a new chassis for Riccardo https://www.planetf1.com/news/mclaren-daniel-ricci...

I can't remember who, but a few years ago one driver was below par to what he should have been, they did a new chassis and found the original was damaged or not right in some way. New chassis and all was fine.
Are you thinking of Lella Lombardi? She reported that her March felt unstable in right turns, but as a relative newcomer was ignored.The next year Ronnie Peterson inherited her old 751 (now renamed as a 761) and reported the same handling problem. The car needed to be retubbed after he crashed it. With a new tub, his performances were transformed so Max Mosley sent someone to look at the old discarded tub and found the cracked bulkhead. He later apologised to Lombardi, but it was too late to rescue her F1 career. (as posted in another Forum)

ajprice

20,596 posts

162 months

Thursday 27th May
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No I was thinking it was more recent than Lombardi, maybe Vettel, Vandoorne and Hamilton got mixed together in my memory as happening once, I don't remember the 3 different times hehe .

jsf

22,716 posts

202 months

Thursday 27th May
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751 and 761 use a different tub design.

carl_w

6,686 posts

224 months

Thursday 27th May
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kiseca said:
If you mean Vettel at Ferrari, if I recall it made no difference. However, I recall it happening somewhere in the past and they did find a problem.

If I recall, Prost had a change in 1988 when a chassis problem was found, and it's happened to someone else as well. I also can't remember who, nor can I remember what era except it was a carbon chassis so must have been after 1982 at least.
I also recall Mansell claiming that Ferrari swapped his and Prost's chassis.

thegreenhell

8,703 posts

185 months

Thursday 27th May
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There was a story I read, I think from Spa, years ago, when one of Fangio's teammates was quite a bit slower than him in practice. Thinking it might be due to a difference in car performance, Fangio went out in the slower driver's car and went faster than he had managed in his own car.

paua

2,440 posts

109 months

Thursday 27th May
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thegreenhell said:
There was a story I read, I think from Spa, years ago, when one of Fangio's teammates was quite a bit slower than him in practice. Thinking it might be due to a difference in car performance, Fangio went out in the slower driver's car and went faster than he had managed in his own car.
Not familiar with that anecdote, but not surprised - chap could pedal!
Can't remember which Magazine, but vaguely recall a story where he passed someone on the outside of some corner driving a Mangusta (?). F was in a Mercedes 4 door limo & waved with one hand as he went by. Silverstone '74? A press event?

M5-911

642 posts

11 months

Thursday 27th May
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thegreenhell said:
There was a story I read, I think from Spa, years ago, when one of Fangio's teammates was quite a bit slower than him in practice. Thinking it might be due to a difference in car performance, Fangio went out in the slower driver's car and went faster than he had managed in his own car.
I wonder how much of all those fairy tells stories we hear nowadays are actually true.

You just need to look at the movie Senna, people believe everything...

Edited by M5-911 on Friday 28th May 18:05

Blib

37,843 posts

163 months

Thursday 27th May
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Netflix is currently running a documentary on Fangio which includes many interviews with the great man.

In his first racing accident his Co driver was killed. Fangio blamed himself for the crash, even though circumstances meant they had to race at very short notice, at night, after little sleep.

Fascinating stuff.

Edited by Blib on Thursday 27th May 10:48

Smollet

6,454 posts

156 months

Friday 28th May
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Blib said:
Netflix is currently running a documentary on Fangio which includes many interviews with the great man.

In his first racing accident his Co driver was killed. Fangio blamed himself for the crash, even though circumstances meant they had to race at very short notice, at night, after little sleep.

Fascinating stuff.

Edited by Blib on Thursday 27th May 10:48
Is that "a life of speed"

Blib

37,843 posts

163 months

Friday 28th May
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Smollet said:
Is that "a life of speed"
Yes, that's the one.