F1: Beyond The Grid Podcast

F1: Beyond The Grid Podcast

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rdjohn

3,563 posts

139 months

Saturday 11th May
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entropy said:
He did state what a great organization Scuderia were at that time even though he mentioned budget a couple of times which makes a good soundbite! Who did Allison work for previously? Renault/Lotus who were on a downhill trajectory and trying to punch above their weight, then re-joins Ferrari at their political worst as Dominicalli left because the ongoing backstabbing and interference of Luca DM.
Under the Genii capital ownership, the Enstone team were as cash strapped as Williams are today, yet still turned out innovative cars that performed OK.

James Allison and Bob Bell were very heavily involved in introducing thermodynamics into the aero / CFD equation and so developed innovations in blown diffusers, forward facing exhausts and harnessing the Coanda effect.

Piginapoke

844 posts

129 months

Saturday 11th May
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tobinen said:
I loved the well-placed swearing by James Allison, in fact I'm surprised it wasn't beeped out but glad it wasn't. An interesting character.

Hill's was very good as I expected it would be. An eloquent chap and after reading his book, I'm a bigger fan than I already was.

Still to catch up with the Walker, Jones and Perez episodes.
Jones is an excellent listen. Great stories and you can see how he got to wdc

NFC 85 Vette

2,509 posts

180 months

Tuesday 21st May
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I've not listened to all of them, but certainly the recent podcasts have been excellent. Alesi's anecdote about driving Todt's car with Berger as a passenger... laugh

entropy

3,778 posts

147 months

Tuesday 21st May
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It was nice to hear that Nelson Piquet wasn't so much of c***t. Okay, demanding for an F40 maybe pushing it!

Gad-Westy

9,387 posts

157 months

Tuesday 21st May
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entropy said:
It was nice to hear that Nelson Piquet wasn't so much of c***t. Okay, demanding for an F40 maybe pushing it!
Seemed to work nicely though! And the F192.

DanielSan

14,284 posts

111 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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entropy said:
It was nice to hear that Nelson Piquet wasn't so much of c***t. Okay, demanding for an F40 maybe pushing it!
Not really demanding, simply a way of finding out how badly they want the driver, if they weren't willing to have done that I wonder if Piquet would have told Alesi just to go to Williams?

ukaskew

5,157 posts

165 months

Tuesday 28th May
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Only just got around to the James Allison one but what a fantastic interview, if ever somebody really really loved the job they're in it's him.

His story about meeting Lewis Hamilton for the first time was an absolute gem.

LaurasOtherHalf

15,255 posts

140 months

Tuesday 28th May
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DanielSan said:
entropy said:
It was nice to hear that Nelson Piquet wasn't so much of c***t. Okay, demanding for an F40 maybe pushing it!
Not really demanding, simply a way of finding out how badly they want the driver, if they weren't willing to have done that I wonder if Piquet would have told Alesi just to go to Williams?
If you have Sky F1, look out for their "The Brabham Boys" programme with Piquet, Lauda, Bernie, Herbie and Charlie. Being repeated as part of the Niki celebrations.

I think Piquet comes across better now than he ever did, though it might be that he was made out to be worse than he ever was by the "our nige" press back then.

entropy

3,778 posts

147 months

Tuesday 28th May
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
If you have Sky F1, look out for their "The Brabham Boys" programme with Piquet, Lauda, Bernie, Herbie and Charlie. Being repeated as part of the Niki celebrations.

I think Piquet comes across better now than he ever did, though it might be that he was made out to be worse than he ever was by the "our nige" press back then.
When Piquet visited Frank lying in hospital he said: "Frank, you made me number one driver, remember?" And the way Williams personnel tell it Piquet wasn't joking this time around and if it was it was a bad one.

LaurasOtherHalf

15,255 posts

140 months

Tuesday 28th May
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entropy said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
If you have Sky F1, look out for their "The Brabham Boys" programme with Piquet, Lauda, Bernie, Herbie and Charlie. Being repeated as part of the Niki celebrations.

I think Piquet comes across better now than he ever did, though it might be that he was made out to be worse than he ever was by the "our nige" press back then.
When Piquet visited Frank lying in hospital he said: "Frank, you made me number one driver, remember?" And the way Williams personnel tell it Piquet wasn't joking this time around and if it was it was a bad one.
If it's a true story, I suspect it's something that FW would have done himself to be honest. Not sure that's something that reflects worse on NP, FW or them both.

Stedman

6,394 posts

136 months

Tuesday 28th May
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ukaskew said:
Only just got around to the James Allison one but what a fantastic interview, if ever somebody really really loved the job they're in it's him.

His story about meeting Lewis Hamilton for the first time was an absolute gem.
Agreed

The Moose

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18,353 posts

153 months

Saturday 8th June
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Listened to the Gordon Murray one yesterday. Found it super interesting.

La-spoon

19 posts

14 months

Saturday 8th June
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Really like these. Also the Nico Rosberg ones, Beyond Victory are also very good. The Danny Ric and Chris Froome particularly. Kill lots of time stuck on the M6.

The Moose

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18,353 posts

153 months

Saturday 8th June
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La-spoon said:
Really like these. Also the Nico Rosberg ones, Beyond Victory are also very good. The Danny Ric and Chris Froome particularly. Kill lots of time stuck on the M6.
I’ll try to re-listen to Rosberg’s. I listened to a few previously and they were terrible!

La-spoon

19 posts

14 months

Saturday 8th June
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The Moose said:
La-spoon said:
Really like these. Also the Nico Rosberg ones, Beyond Victory are also very good. The Danny Ric and Chris Froome particularly. Kill lots of time stuck on the M6.
I’ll try to re-listen to Rosberg’s. I listened to a few previously and they were terrible!
The conversation with Ric was really relaxed between them. When Rosberg blamed hime for the Baku crash with Max his reaction was funny. Agree with the earlier ones but think they have become better prepared and a bit more polished. Also I follow cycling so enjoyed the Froome one.

sgtBerbatov

1,580 posts

25 months

Monday 10th June
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La-spoon said:
Really like these. Also the Nico Rosberg ones, Beyond Victory are also very good. The Danny Ric and Chris Froome particularly. Kill lots of time stuck on the M6.
Does he talk about which inhaler is the best for cycling?

The Moose said:
Listened to the Gordon Murray one yesterday. Found it super interesting.
I find that guy fascinating, and much more personable than Adrian Newey (judged by his book and his pop at Brummies).

entropy

3,778 posts

147 months

Monday 10th June
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
I think Piquet comes across better now than he ever did, though it might be that he was made out to be worse than he ever was by the "our nige" press back then.
In the John Watson BTG he mentions he didn't like Piquet's sense of humour. Humour is subjective of course but I used to think it was just Nige being jealous of the Williams crew enjoying having fun with Piquet who was so well liked.

sgtBerbatov said:
I find that guy fascinating, and much more personable than Adrian Newey (judged by his book and his pop at Brummies).
He enjoyed working with Nige.

Funnily, the best interview I've come across is the one he did with Natalie Pinkham's podcast. He doesn't come across as introverted you or I think. He's much more comfortable and relaxed talking. It's only in the middle/end of the interview that he admits he was reticent with the press because of previous bad experience.

LaurasOtherHalf

15,255 posts

140 months

Monday 10th June
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entropy said:
Natalie Pinkham's podcast.
Didn’t know about that one, will give it a try thanks.

carinaman

13,851 posts

116 months

Monday 10th June
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La-spoon said:
The Moose said:
La-spoon said:
Really like these. Also the Nico Rosberg ones, Beyond Victory are also very good. The Danny Ric and Chris Froome particularly. Kill lots of time stuck on the M6.
I’ll try to re-listen to Rosberg’s. I listened to a few previously and they were terrible!
The conversation with Ric was really relaxed between them. When Rosberg blamed hime for the Baku crash with Max his reaction was funny. Agree with the earlier ones but think they have become better prepared and a bit more polished. Also I follow cycling so enjoyed the Froome one.
YouTube kindly autoplayed Rosberg's post Canadian GP podcast. Seems he gave Ricciardo some brake balance advice during his podcast that was beeped out.

sgtBerbatov

1,580 posts

25 months

Tuesday 11th June
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entropy said:
sgtBerbatov said:
I find that guy fascinating, and much more personable than Adrian Newey (judged by his book and his pop at Brummies).
He enjoyed working with Nige.

Funnily, the best interview I've come across is the one he did with Natalie Pinkham's podcast. He doesn't come across as introverted you or I think. He's much more comfortable and relaxed talking. It's only in the middle/end of the interview that he admits he was reticent with the press because of previous bad experience.
To be honest I just found him rude in the way he was talking about Birmingham and it's inhabitants. The rest of it I loved, I think he's a very smart guy but definitely owns a place on the spectrum. But when I read that bit, right early on, I just thought "knob". Then I put the book down and enjoyed a cheese and onion cob with my pint of carling.

I'm joking, I don't drink carling.