F1: Beyond The Grid Podcast

F1: Beyond The Grid Podcast

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coppice

6,044 posts

99 months

Sunday 17th May
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Sorry , but I found it sub CBBC stuff . The woman presenter was so souffle light she made Jenny Gow sound like Mischal Husaln

LaurasOtherHalf

17,285 posts

151 months

Sunday 17th May
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coppice said:
Sorry , but I found it sub CBBC stuff . The woman presenter was so souffle light she made Jenny Gow sound like Mischal Husaln
This is what I don't get about a lot of the coverage on F1. I almost get it with mainstream media like a free to air broadcast but if I'm paying for content, I'm obviously a pretty hardcore fan. Same with podcasts, if I'm searching out extra content then there's really no need to dumb it down.


coppice

6,044 posts

99 months

Sunday 17th May
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I guess they pander to the sort of people Zak Brown terms his 'awesome fans' . Retch .

I may be in a minority now, but I certainly do not believe motorsport begins and ends with F1 , nor did I wet myself when I've met the odd famous driver and nor do i call myself a bloody fan. Mature enthusiast , aka cynical old fart

North West Tom

10,819 posts

132 months

Sunday 31st May
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I don't read newspapers (does anyone?) but this tweet I saw can apply to podcasts too. I think the personality of the presenter is vital to a successful podcast. Tom Clarkson knows his stuff no doubt, but I rarely make it all the way through the BTG podcasts as he puts me to sleep. Look how successful Jamie Carragher and Gary Neville have become. Both came into the TV roles with minimal training, because Sky learnt (I listened to a podcast with a Sky Sports producer recently), that no scripts and flowing natural conversation is how it should be done. I feel like with Tom, he's reading questions off a piece of paper and also putting the answers into the guests mouth. Some have been quite painful to listen through.

A good example (whilst not really a fair comparison - not many world champions willing to take on that job) is Nico Rosberg. Particularly his podcast with Xabi Alonso. Two athletes who have achieved the ultimate goal in their respective fields. This (and a lot of Nico's) was much more of a conversation than a podcast. On the F1 podcast, you'd never get the guest asking Tom questions about his achievements or his career choices.

tobinen

6,361 posts

100 months

Saturday 27th June
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The Patrick Head podcast on Motor Sport is quite engrossing.

Teddy Lop

3,088 posts

22 months

Saturday 27th June
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North West Tom said:


I don't read newspapers (does anyone?) but this tweet I saw can apply to podcasts too. I think the personality of the presenter is vital to a successful podcast. Tom Clarkson knows his stuff no doubt, but I rarely make it all the way through the BTG podcasts as he puts me to sleep. Look how successful Jamie Carragher and Gary Neville have become. Both came into the TV roles with minimal training, because Sky learnt (I listened to a podcast with a Sky Sports producer recently), that no scripts and flowing natural conversation is how it should be done. I feel like with Tom, he's reading questions off a piece of paper and also putting the answers into the guests mouth. Some have been quite painful to listen through.

A good example (whilst not really a fair comparison - not many world champions willing to take on that job) is Nico Rosberg. Particularly his podcast with Xabi Alonso. Two athletes who have achieved the ultimate goal in their respective fields. This (and a lot of Nico's) was much more of a conversation than a podcast. On the F1 podcast, you'd never get the guest asking Tom questions about his achievements or his career choices.
is it that new? The mixed commentary team with the ex participant for his personal experience has been a staple as long as sports have been televised no?

They both do and bring something different - a good interviewer is a conduit for the interviewee and nothing more, I think Clarkson is very good at that, but what someone like rosberg does is quite different and doesn't interest me much at all, but there's room for both in this world.


Jinba Ittai

460 posts

46 months

Sunday 28th June
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
coppice said:
Sorry , but I found it sub CBBC stuff . The woman presenter was so souffle light she made Jenny Gow sound like Mischal Husaln
This is what I don't get about a lot of the coverage on F1. I almost get it with mainstream media like a free to air broadcast but if I'm paying for content, I'm obviously a pretty hardcore fan. Same with podcasts, if I'm searching out extra content then there's really no need to dumb it down.
This, absolutely. F1 Nation is the podcast equivalent of some of the pre race wk Sky put out. Drivers playing Jenga, fking about with remote control cars etc, then a few vacuous questions tagged on. I’ve got no interest in it at all. But I accept that there will be many people who have.

I do think Beyond the Grid is excellent, and i think Tom Clarkson does a good solid job. He’s put in the hard yards in the motorsport world, so he has the respect of his interview subjects.

For me, the best F1 ‘TV’ journalist at the moment is Will Buxton, and best pundit is clearly Martin Brundle.

The-Race Podcast is the best F1 podcast, Ed Straw, Scott Mitchell etc have done a great job in continuing the excellent work they started at Autosport. Gary Anderson’s podcast with them is always good, he’s very engaging. They’ve just got it right.

sgtBerbatov

2,061 posts

36 months

Jinba Ittai said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
coppice said:
Sorry , but I found it sub CBBC stuff . The woman presenter was so souffle light she made Jenny Gow sound like Mischal Husaln
This is what I don't get about a lot of the coverage on F1. I almost get it with mainstream media like a free to air broadcast but if I'm paying for content, I'm obviously a pretty hardcore fan. Same with podcasts, if I'm searching out extra content then there's really no need to dumb it down.
This, absolutely. F1 Nation is the podcast equivalent of some of the pre race wk Sky put out. Drivers playing Jenga, fking about with remote control cars etc, then a few vacuous questions tagged on. I’ve got no interest in it at all. But I accept that there will be many people who have.

I do think Beyond the Grid is excellent, and i think Tom Clarkson does a good solid job. He’s put in the hard yards in the motorsport world, so he has the respect of his interview subjects.

For me, the best F1 ‘TV’ journalist at the moment is Will Buxton, and best pundit is clearly Martin Brundle.

The-Race Podcast is the best F1 podcast, Ed Straw, Scott Mitchell etc have done a great job in continuing the excellent work they started at Autosport. Gary Anderson’s podcast with them is always good, he’s very engaging. They’ve just got it right.
Will Buxton?

Really?

How much has he paid you to say that.

coppice

6,044 posts

99 months

Buxton is fine for most of his viewers , and is fairly typical of the modern TV pundit . But he is not my cup of tea at all , being far too starry eyed about drivers ('heroes' , 'legends' etc ) , and he will dish out the absolutely bleedin' obvious to a largely uninformed audience .

I prefer some grit in my oyster but I don't think the likes of Pete Lyons, Nigel Roebuck,, Dennis Jenkinson , Innes Ireland or Russell Bulgin style reportage would be received well by a 2020 public .