Lando Norris

[paulguitar]

axel1990chp said:

Sliding his car under pressure

We certainly can't have that.

[cliffords]

ntiz said:

cliffords said:

OP is faster than Lando

14-4 in Lando favour in qualifying would suggest otherwise.

Today suggest otherwise. OP had to slow down to let Lando catch up .
OP is faster than Lando.

[paulguitar]

cliffords said:

Today suggest otherwise. OP had to slow down to let Lando catch up .
OP is faster than Lando.

That's not supported by the evidence. Overall Lando has been the faster driver.

[Sixpackpert]

cliffords said:

ntiz said:

cliffords said:

OP is faster than Lando

14-4 in Lando favour in qualifying would suggest otherwise.

Today suggest otherwise. OP had to slow down to let Lando catch up .
OP is faster than Lando.

Today, yes. What’s your point?

[cliffords]

paulguitar said:

cliffords said:

Today suggest otherwise. OP had to slow down to let Lando catch up .
OP is faster than Lando.

That's not supported by the evidence. Overall Lando has been the faster driver.

I watched the race today that was the evidence. Have a look yourself, it's on You Tube if you don't have access to SKY.

[paulguitar]

cliffords said:

paulguitar said:

cliffords said:

Today suggest otherwise. OP had to slow down to let Lando catch up .
OP is faster than Lando.

That's not supported by the evidence. Overall Lando has been the faster driver.

I watched the race today that was the evidence. Have a look yourself, it's on You Tube if you don't have access to SKY.

So what you're trying to say is Piasti was the faster driver today, in the sprint? Yes, he was.

[cliffords]

paulguitar said:

cliffords said:

paulguitar said:

cliffords said:

Today suggest otherwise. OP had to slow down to let Lando catch up .
OP is faster than Lando.

That's not supported by the evidence. Overall Lando has been the faster driver.

I watched the race today that was the evidence. Have a look yourself, it's on You Tube if you don't have access to SKY.

So what you're trying to say is Piasti was the faster driver today, in the sprint? Yes, he was.

It does appear OP is faster than Lando , yes.

[paulguitar]

cliffords said:

paulguitar said:

cliffords said:

paulguitar said:

cliffords said:

Today suggest otherwise. OP had to slow down to let Lando catch up .
OP is faster than Lando.

That's not supported by the evidence. Overall Lando has been the faster driver.

I watched the race today that was the evidence. Have a look yourself, it's on You Tube if you don't have access to SKY.

So what you're trying to say is Piasti was the faster driver today, in the sprint? Yes, he was.

It does appear OP is faster than Lando , yes.

Today, yes.


Not sure what you're trying to do here.

[Big Nanas]

cliffords said:

It does appear OP is faster than Lando , yes.

SO much faster in fact, that he's behind Lando in every GP stat.

If he's that much faster, hasn't Oscar got a massive problem in converting this speed into World Championship points?

[bobbo89]

cliffords said:

It does appear OP is faster than Lando , yes.

Then explain why even before 'Papaya Rules' why Lando was ahead in points?

Explain why Norris finished 2nd last weekend and Piastri 8th?

[Diderot]

As I said above, but worth pointing out to Cliffords:

Just some stats for you: OP was 41 seconds behind Lando in Singapore. 27 seconds behind in Zandvoort. 31 seconds behind in Spain. 13 seconds behind in Imola. 49 seconds behind in Miami. 46 seconds behind in China. 18 seconds behind in Japan. 30 seconds behind in Australia.

When OP is in front of Lando, the deltas are very much smaller. But yes OP is faster.

[PlywoodPascal]

axel1990chp said:

The law of attraction is something you believe in, or you don’t. I do.

Edited by axel1990chp on Saturday 2nd November 16:49

If it’s a law, it doesn’t matter whether you believe in it or not.

[Altrezia]

So erm.. where was that guy saying how great OP was and ste Lando is?

[Wills2]

PlywoodPascal said:

axel1990chp said:

The man who says he can, and the man who says he cannot, are both correct

And one who says ‘I am not sure I can, how do I make sure of it?’ will beat them both.

This stupid trope of blind confidence and rectitude is basically toxic masculinity. There’s a great book you can read to see the error of thinking you are making - ‘why do so many incompetent men become leaders?’.
We attribute characteristics as being necessary for success or leadership that in reality are counterproductive.

What a tortured postulation, it's not blind confidence, Max doesn't have blind confidence and neither did Rosberg when he took it to Lewis and won...this isn't a boardroom where those that are never in doubt but rarely right can rise to the top.

[acer12]

Reflecting over yesterdays race and catching up on the main thread. One post that really struck a cord for me was someone saying that Norris is more of a Jenson Button than a Lewis Hamilton. I think that's a fair summary, too many self inflicted mistakes and only in the position that he found himself in because of his car. Disappointed that it ended this way, will take a miracle at this stage, I hope its not his last shot at the cherry but something inside me tells me that it may be but I really hope I am proven wrong.

[Mr Pointy]

acer12 said:

Reflecting over yesterdays race and catching up on the main thread. One post that really struck a cord for me was someone saying that Norris is more of a Jenson Button than a Lewis Hamilton. I think that's a fair summary, too many self inflicted mistakes and only in the position that he found himself in because of his car. Disappointed that it ended this way, will take a miracle at this stage, I hope its not his last shot at the cherry but something inside me tells me that it may be but I really hope I am proven wrong.

Surely the main issue yesterday was pitting for new tyres just as the VSC ended & then the three in front getting a free pit stop under the red flag? The weather then severley limited what he could do to get back to the front.

[Muzzer79]

Mr Pointy said:

Surely the main issue yesterday was pitting for new tyres just as the VSC ended & then the three in front getting a free pit stop under the red flag? The weather then severley limited what he could do to get back to the front.

Looking at this objectively, the weather did not severely limit Verstappen going from 17th to sixth before the pitstops started..........

If you want to win a WDC, you don't start on pole and end up 6th. You make things happen.

Verstappen, for all his many, many faults, makes things happen. Hamilton makes things happen. Schumacher/Senna made things happen. It's as plain as that unfortunately.

[Gazzab]

Muzzer79 said:

Mr Pointy said:

Surely the main issue yesterday was pitting for new tyres just as the VSC ended & then the three in front getting a free pit stop under the red flag? The weather then severley limited what he could do to get back to the front.

Looking at this objectively, the weather did not severely limit Verstappen going from 17th to sixth before the pitstops started..........

If you want to win a WDC, you don't start on pole and end up 6th. You make things happen.

Verstappen, for all his many, many faults, makes things happen. Hamilton makes things happen. Schumacher/Senna made things happen. It's as plain as that unfortunately.

If Verstappen is behind someone you know he will probably overtake them. If Verstappen is in front then you know he is going to be hard to overtake. Sadly not the same can be said for Lando. The red flag was bad luck but he should have passed Russell earlier. He should have got back some places later on. Piastri shouldn’t have let Verstappen past so easily. The difference between Verstappen and Lando was too stark yesterday.

[Fire99]

Norris, particularly after the last safety car made unnecessary mistakes, first allowing Leclerc through and then running wide and needing Piastri to let him back through. Quite understandable in the conditions but Verstappen didn't make those mistakes, he made the most of opportunities. Norris lost 1st at the start and progressively moved backwards.

Post-race he seemed a bit snarly against Verstappen and I think he needs to look at his own errors rather than his assuming 'fortune' for Verstappen. After all, Norris got all the decisions for the rest of the weekend.

[4.7AMV8]

I also see Lando as each week goes by a Button then a Verstappen or Hamilton. I do like him but he needs to own up to the fact he is making mistakes on the way which are not comparable to those I have mentioned or even his teammate. If it came to it, I would see Piastri next year with more of a chance getting a world title than Norris.