Vietnamese Grand Prix 2020
Discussion
I was wondering if this would ever see the light of day, and now it looks like it might, I'm pretty excited about going to this.
Sepang was a fantastic race on a great circuit, that often had the added excitement of some biblical downpours to spice things up a bit.
On a serious note though I hope they've modelled the drainage or this track could become a canal in about 4 minutes....
To me, this Hanoi gig looks like the logical successor / replacement to the Malaysian GP in some ways.
My worry is, as has been mentioned above, the race won't last, as the cost to attend it is too high a bar to access for people (locals) to clear.
This was (as I understood it) the purported reason for the sad demise of the Sepang event.
All the more reason to go whilst the opportunity IS there!
Always wanted to visit Vietnam, done a lot of other places in SE Asia and this might just be the 'excuse' I needed to go - I'd dovetail it into a fortnight out there somehow....
Great news as far as I'm concerned - did someone say $100 for a 3 day grandstand pass? burn some airmiles with Emirates on the top-deck / pointy end, huge choice of 5* hotels for £100 / night - Where the f
k do I sign ?
Sepang was a fantastic race on a great circuit, that often had the added excitement of some biblical downpours to spice things up a bit.
On a serious note though I hope they've modelled the drainage or this track could become a canal in about 4 minutes....
To me, this Hanoi gig looks like the logical successor / replacement to the Malaysian GP in some ways.
My worry is, as has been mentioned above, the race won't last, as the cost to attend it is too high a bar to access for people (locals) to clear.
This was (as I understood it) the purported reason for the sad demise of the Sepang event.
All the more reason to go whilst the opportunity IS there!
Always wanted to visit Vietnam, done a lot of other places in SE Asia and this might just be the 'excuse' I needed to go - I'd dovetail it into a fortnight out there somehow....
Great news as far as I'm concerned - did someone say $100 for a 3 day grandstand pass? burn some airmiles with Emirates on the top-deck / pointy end, huge choice of 5* hotels for £100 / night - Where the f
k do I sign ?DeltaTango said:
The track design looks great, don't know what all the moaning is about.
It'll be a great event. Vietnam is a fantastic place. It's only going to have a positive impact on the place.
Agreed! People moaned about Baku being single track before a long straight, and that has turned out just fine!It'll be a great event. Vietnam is a fantastic place. It's only going to have a positive impact on the place.
As for someone on here judging the elevation of the track on a single map of it..
https://youtu.be/Z8vGfM9BZsU
Roads look massive.
No doubt f1 will put armco to make it a cars width and stiffle overtaking.
Not the most glorious of areas very industrial the first bit.
Roads look massive.
No doubt f1 will put armco to make it a cars width and stiffle overtaking.
Not the most glorious of areas very industrial the first bit.
thegreenhell said:
Kraken said:
Worries me that Liberty are saying that they are targeting more street tracks for the future.
And with Silverstone breaking their contract after next year they're talking again about a London GP to replace it.All to easy for London to slip in and pay a race fee if that’s the going rate for a seat.
NicoG said:
Great news as far as I'm concerned - did someone say $100 for a 3 day grandstand pass? burn some airmiles with Emirates on the top-deck / pointy end, huge choice of 5* hotels for £100 / night - Where the fk do I sign ?
Not quite. A decent 5* hotel around HaNoi Opera House in Hoan Kiem (the only place with lots of 5* places in HaNoi) is closer to £150 - £250 / night. Any of the restaurants and bars round that area will charge western prices (there’s a bloody good Argentinian steak place just along from the Hilton). It gets cheaper as you get up to old town and out in the suburbs, everything is extremely cheap. k do I sign ?HaNoi is a pretty quiet city, really, with everything closed and tucked up by 1am. There are a few clubs, but they are mostly pretty gritty. HCMC is a much better bet if you want a party and can be reached on an Air Asia flight from Noi Bai airport for $20 / $30
coppice said:
thegreenhell said:
Indeed. Nowhere has a divine right to host a Grand Prix. Every country, state or city that has ever hosted a race of any kind has done so as a form of self-promotion. With the possible exceptions of Britain, France, Germany and Italy, which have been the foundations of the motoring industry and motor racing, you could ask the same question of why we are racing anywhere. F1 has always raced wherever they can make it pay, regardless of who or why someone wants to pay for it.
In Hanoi's case, I believe its proximity to the Chinese border is significant, as they're trying to attract Chinese money to the city as much as European.
You can add Japan , Australasia , South Africa , Canada , Argentina and Brazil (at least) to your first list, unless you think Grand Prix racing started in the 80s . F1 lost the plot when Mosley sold Ecclestone the commercial rights for £1.50 so the latter could pimp it round to whatever regime would pay his twenty pieces of silver. Which is why ., instead of watching 100.000 Dutch fans shouting for Max at Zandvoort , 3 men and a stray dog watch the so called Grand Prix in Baku. The country which ,despite being east of Syria, hosted a European Grand Prix . In Hanoi's case, I believe its proximity to the Chinese border is significant, as they're trying to attract Chinese money to the city as much as European.
I could not be less interested in Hanoi's business case because, y'know , I sort of like motor sport .
"Fans" really need to learn to accept that nobody in the motor racing administration gives a f
k about them or has ever given a fk about them.
DeejRC said:
Motor racing does not and never has existed because some oik liked motor sport. It exists and has always existed because of business cases.
"Fans" really need to learn to accept that nobody in the motor racing administration gives a fk about them or has ever given a fk about them.
"Fans" really need to learn to accept that nobody in the motor racing administration gives a f
k about them or has ever given a fk about them.Your cynicism isn't entirely justified . Motor sport existed just fine when it looked at more than the bottom line . It needed to break even , of course , but was not hell bent on creating the the absurd cash cow which F1 has become. But in the wider context, most motor sport is not about profit , but about blokes messing around in cars . This weekend I am at a VSCC event which costs me only the fuel to get there , and the vast majority of stuff organised by HSCC , BARC, BRSCC , CSCC etc does not have profit at its core .
It is worth noting too that Silverstone charges a lot for entry to the GP because , just about uniquely, the government does not subsidise the race . Nor should it . But the likes of Azerbaijan are happy to lob the required numbers of dollars to pay for the race it uses to lord it over its neighbours .
coppice said:
DeejRC said:
Motor racing does not and never has existed because some oik liked motor sport. It exists and has always existed because of business cases.
"Fans" really need to learn to accept that nobody in the motor racing administration gives a fk about them or has ever given a fk about them.
"Fans" really need to learn to accept that nobody in the motor racing administration gives a f
k about them or has ever given a fk about them.Your cynicism isn't entirely justified . Motor sport existed just fine when it looked at more than the bottom line . It needed to break even , of course , but was not hell bent on creating the the absurd cash cow which F1 has become. But in the wider context, most motor sport is not about profit , but about blokes messing around in cars . This weekend I am at a VSCC event which costs me only the fuel to get there , and the vast majority of stuff organised by HSCC , BARC, BRSCC , CSCC etc does not have profit at its core .
It is worth noting too that Silverstone charges a lot for entry to the GP because , just about uniquely, the government does not subsidise the race . Nor should it . But the likes of Azerbaijan are happy to lob the required numbers of dollars to pay for the race it uses to lord it over its neighbours .
It’s quite variable but Malaysia was amongst the cheapest because of lack of demand.
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