Cryptic question - who knows their F1?

Cryptic question - who knows their F1?

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mattikake

Original Poster:

5,057 posts

199 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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Damn, just noticed that as a result of this year, my favourite driver can no longer have the claim to have exclusively driven for the 4 best F1 teams.

Who is it?

First correct answer wins my respect, such as it's worth.

(If you use wiki you are an evil pleb)

realjv

1,114 posts

166 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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Mansell?

themarsh

14 posts

104 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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Another one for Mansell. I can't think of anyone else who has driven for Ferrari, Williams, McLaren & Lotus.

Exige77

6,518 posts

191 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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And this year the best 4 teams have changed ?

Red Bull is now one of the best 4 teams ?

And Mansell didn’t drive for Red Bull ?

DanielSan

18,773 posts

167 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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Is this 4 best teams on opinion or on statistics? Either way are Mclaren still in the list? hehe

ralphrj

3,523 posts

191 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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Depends on the criteria for defining the 4 best F1 teams. Assuming that the OP's definition was based on the number of wins then the answer was Mansell until this year. During 2018, Mercedes surpassed Lotus to claim 4th overall with 87 wins.

Eric Mc

121,947 posts

265 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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Define "best"?

Fangio only ever drove for the "best" of his era -

Maserati
Ferrari
Lancia
Mercedes

In the old days, drivers didn't have long enough careers to have the opportunity to jump between too many teams. They either died racing or got out of the sport before they died.

thegreenhell

15,280 posts

219 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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ralphrj said:
Depends on the criteria for defining the 4 best F1 teams. Assuming that the OP's definition was based on the number of wins then the answer was Mansell until this year. During 2018, Mercedes surpassed Lotus to claim 4th overall with 87 wins.
The old status quo remains intact in terms of WCC titles won, where Mercedes still need at least two more years to even equal Lotus.

You could perhaps argue that Mercedes would have won the teams title in 1954/55 had such a thing existed then, but it didn't.

Eric Mc

121,947 posts

265 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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And what about drivers who competed before there was a World Driver's Championship?

Bullitt Five-Oh

876 posts

67 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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Bottas obviously.

FourWheelDrift

88,486 posts

284 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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I guess Mercedes have bumped someone down the list this year.

sgtBerbatov

2,597 posts

81 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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Alonso?

Evangelion

7,704 posts

178 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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Button drove for Williams, Benetton, McLaren and Brawn.

What about Prost? Or Piquet (Snr)?

slipstream 1985

12,211 posts

179 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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this will be because of kimi driving for "alfa romeo" now, so someone who drove for them, andretti?

Eric Mc

121,947 posts

265 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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slipstream 1985 said:
this will be because of kimi driving for "alfa romeo" now, so someone who drove for them, andretti?
Fangio.

dr_gn

16,145 posts

184 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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Jackie Ickx ?

dr_gn

16,145 posts

184 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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FourWheelDrift said:
I guess Mercedes have bumped someone down the list this year.
Lotus.

dr_gn

16,145 posts

184 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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Eric Mc said:
Define "best"?

Fangio only ever drove for the "best" of his era -

Maserati
Ferrari
Lancia
Mercedes
.
Why does he need to define ‘best’?

Lancia and Maserati don’t appear anywhere near the top four F1 teams in terms of wins or championships, in fact zero between them probably.

Nobody mentioned ‘era’ in this apart from you.

Evangelion

7,704 posts

178 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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dr_gn said:
... Lancia and Maserati don’t appear anywhere near the top four F1 teams in terms of wins or championships, in fact zero between them probably ...
The Lancia D50 could have been a good car had it been developed more,but Lancia lost interest in it and packed up when Ascari died. However they did pass on a lot of their equipment to Ferrari - the Lancia Ferrari that Fangio used to win the '57 championship owed quite a lot to it.

Then the following year, he won the championship in a Maserati.

Remember that the vast majority of racing cars never win even a single championship. Nor, indeed, a race.

dr_gn

16,145 posts

184 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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Evangelion said:
dr_gn said:
... Lancia and Maserati don’t appear anywhere near the top four F1 teams in terms of wins or championships, in fact zero between them probably ...
The Lancia D50 could have been a good car had it been developed more,but Lancia lost interest in it and packed up when Ascari died. However they did pass on a lot of their equipment to Ferrari - the Lancia Ferrari that Fangio used to win the '57 championship owed quite a lot to it.

Then the following year, he won the championship in a Maserati.

Remember that the vast majority of racing cars never win even a single championship. Nor, indeed, a race.
...but none of that makes either of them a ‘top’ team in F1 terms, or makes Fangio remotely a contender for the o/p’s driver.