Legit streaming of F1 in 2019

Legit streaming of F1 in 2019

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MiniMan64

11,655 posts

129 months

Tuesday 12th February
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rscott said:
MiniMan64 said:
The lack of coverage is going to have a seriously negative impact on viewing figures. I doubt many who haven’t signed up to Sky already are suddenly going to.

I certainly fall into that camp and I’ve watched F1 pretty religiously since I was a kid.
Highlights will still be available on Channel 4 though, so I doubt viewing figures will drop that much..
When they’re on at 10pm they will.

TheInternet

2,718 posts

102 months

Tuesday 12th February
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Kraken said:
It's my personal choice to not fund Sky
For any particular reason? I've nothing against your decision btw, just curious.

ukaskew

4,726 posts

160 months

Tuesday 12th February
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I've gone from 'never miss a race' to 'unlikely to see a single race live' in 3 seasons and I'm guessing I'm not the only one.

The F1 TV thing can't come soon enough to the UK, I feel the next 5 years of no live free to air coverage will really hit the sport hard here. Worrying for the future considering that the majority of team personnel, engineers etc are from the UK.

Welshbeef

35,495 posts

137 months

Tuesday 12th February
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TheInternet said:
Kraken said:
It's my personal choice to not fund Sky
For any particular reason? I've nothing against your decision btw, just curious.
Going by his username I’d wager he doesn’t believe in the TV licence /streams for free (but guaranteed he/she pays for TV licence in full highly reluctantly).

We’ve had sky for over 10 years now always had full sports movies etc incl F1 when it moved to sky (legacy pack for a bit but then switched to Sky Q).
Love Sky Atlantic, don’t get to the cinema and don’t buy films so the movie pack is great (more so with kids) and is parents watch a fair few each month.
Basically we use a lot of the services.
Flipside it’s not cheap but hey I figure watching sports would mean a lot more £ spent in pub price beers - as I’d watch the games or sport anywhere.

MitchT

12,274 posts

148 months

Tuesday 12th February
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MiniMan64 said:
rscott said:
MiniMan64 said:
The lack of coverage is going to have a seriously negative impact on viewing figures. I doubt many who haven’t signed up to Sky already are suddenly going to.

I certainly fall into that camp and I’ve watched F1 pretty religiously since I was a kid.
Highlights will still be available on Channel 4 though, so I doubt viewing figures will drop that much..
When they’re on at 10pm they will.
Indeed. One of the issues with the non-C4 races in 2018 was the lateness of the C4 coverage for some of the races. I ended up like a zombie at work the following day because I stayed up to watch it knowing that I'd unwittingly expose myself to the race result if I tried to wait and watch it online. If it must be on so late then at least condense it down to an hour max and just get the hell on with the race as soon as the programme starts, otherwise I might just stop making the effort altogether.
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Welshbeef

35,495 posts

137 months

Tuesday 12th February
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People said the same about Top flight football & now championship ..... guess what the pay per view works. USA has proved it and the last 30years in the U.K. too.

lbc

2,643 posts

156 months

Tuesday 12th February
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MiniMan64 said:
rscott said:
MiniMan64 said:
The lack of coverage is going to have a seriously negative impact on viewing figures. I doubt many who haven’t signed up to Sky already are suddenly going to.

I certainly fall into that camp and I’ve watched F1 pretty religiously since I was a kid.
Highlights will still be available on Channel 4 though, so I doubt viewing figures will drop that much..
When they’re on at 10pm they will.
I hope Sky don't gain a lot of ex CH4 F1 fans out of protest.

Last year I bought a few NowTV Sports passes, but this year I will look at alternatives.
Sometimes the F1 races are on SkyOne which is a lot cheaper with a NOWTV Entertainment pass.

RTL with Five Live commentary is another alternative.

ukaskew

4,726 posts

160 months

Wednesday 13th February
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Welshbeef said:
People said the same about Top flight football & now championship ..... guess what the pay per view works. USA has proved it and the last 30years in the U.K. too.
League Football was never going to have a problem in the UK, it's the national sport and it's on far more frequently (so easier to justify). The more interesting example would be the FA Cup, which nearly died on its arse when it left free to air TV.

Ironically it's because of the football that it costs so much for us F1 fans to try and watch F1 legally in the UK. "We" (as in Sky Sports subscribers) all have to contribute to the massive cost of showing live football in the UK.

The nice thing to do would be to separate the F1 channel out entirely and charge £12 a month or whatever, but Sky know that enough hardcore F1 fans are willing to pay the full Sky Sports fee to get at it.

Kraken

782 posts

139 months

Wednesday 13th February
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Welshbeef said:
TheInternet said:
Kraken said:
It's my personal choice to not fund Sky
For any particular reason? I've nothing against your decision btw, just curious.
Going by his username I’d wager he doesn’t believe in the TV licence /streams for free (but guaranteed he/she pays for TV licence in full highly reluctantly).
I don't have any issue with paying for my TV programmes. The issue I have with Sky is partly political (the Murdochs) and partly the way they do packages that force you to have far more than you want at a price far higher than you need. On top of that there is still wall to wall adverts on every channel including F1 if not in the race itself. None of the other streaming packages I subscribe to (at massively less cost) have anything that more than adverts for other programmes all of which can be skipped.

There's absolutely nothing I want to watch on Sky that I can't get elsewhere for less money and with less adverts. A few years ago I would have said F1 but I much prefer GT and closed top racing in general these days. Nothing massively wrong with F1, it's just that my tastes have changed. I still follow F1 news avidly but I'm not that bothered about the actual event itself.


rscott

8,452 posts

130 months

Wednesday 13th February
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Kraken said:
Welshbeef said:
TheInternet said:
Kraken said:
It's my personal choice to not fund Sky
For any particular reason? I've nothing against your decision btw, just curious.
Going by his username I’d wager he doesn’t believe in the TV licence /streams for free (but guaranteed he/she pays for TV licence in full highly reluctantly).
I don't have any issue with paying for my TV programmes. The issue I have with Sky is partly political (the Murdochs) and partly the way they do packages that force you to have far more than you want at a price far higher than you need. On top of that there is still wall to wall adverts on every channel including F1 if not in the race itself. None of the other streaming packages I subscribe to (at massively less cost) have anything that more than adverts for other programmes all of which can be skipped.

There's absolutely nothing I want to watch on Sky that I can't get elsewhere for less money and with less adverts. A few years ago I would have said F1 but I much prefer GT and closed top racing in general these days. Nothing massively wrong with F1, it's just that my tastes have changed. I still follow F1 news avidly but I'm not that bothered about the actual event itself.
Well the political aspect has gone away now - Murdoch has had nothing to do with Sky since November.

Graveworm

1,286 posts

10 months

Wednesday 13th February
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lbc said:
I hope Sky don't gain a lot of ex CH4 F1 fans out of protest.

Last year I bought a few NowTV Sports passes, but this year I will look at alternatives.
Sometimes the F1 races are on SkyOne which is a lot cheaper with a NOWTV Entertainment pass.

RTL with Five Live commentary is another alternative.
Be interesting to see how this pans out because the coverage on non F1 channels seemed to coincide with the C4 weeks

Kraken

782 posts

139 months

Wednesday 13th February
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rscott said:
Well the political aspect has gone away now - Murdoch has had nothing to do with Sky since November.
Perhaps on paper but even if they have zero connections at any level I've had nothing to do with Sky for years. The political aspect of it is only one small part though. It's a personal stance against their type of business practises primarily as I've said. It's a balancing act between my ethics and my desire to watch F1.

I did actually have Sky once back when my love of F1 was higher and my ethics lower. They ripped me off then as well. I paid for a whole year of their first go at an exclusive F1 channel only for them to dump it after a few races and not give any refunds.

PompeyM3

1,821 posts

144 months

Wednesday 13th February
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rscott said:
Last year there was an F1 NowTv deal - £150 for 10 months. It was for the whole sports pack, so split the cost with a footy mad mate?
Anyone heard on any rumours on NowTV doing this again ?. This would work for me, otherwise I'm going to be stumped for next season and just have to watch the highlights on terrestrial TV.

LordGrover

30,354 posts

151 months

Wednesday 13th February
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Going by this: click, it was only announced in March last year, so maybe the same this?

PompeyM3

1,821 posts

144 months

Wednesday 13th February
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LordGrover said:
Going by this: click, it was only announced in March last year, so maybe the same this?
Cheers, I'll keep checking their website in the build up to the new season. thumbup

deadslow

5,898 posts

162 months

Wednesday 13th February
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C4 highlights for all the bonkers-o-clock in the morning races and NowTV for the rest.

Tyre Smoke

11,134 posts

200 months

Wednesday 13th February
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I have Sky Sports and BT Sports because I enjoy both the F1 and football. I also like watching American Football and occasionally the baseball. So for me, the F1 is 'free'.

If I didn't watch sport though, I doubt I'd pay to watch Sky F1, because although I think their coverage is excellent, the races are by and large snorefests. But that is a topic for another thread.

I'll watch the quali and races if I'm in, and if I haven't heard the result will watch on the Sky Q. But it won't be the drama it used to be to avoid all media until I've watched the race 'as live' as it used to be. Last year I deleted quite a few qualifying and races without watching.

Lentilist

292 posts

14 months

Wednesday 13th February
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ukaskew said:
I've gone from 'never miss a race' to 'unlikely to see a single race live' in 3 seasons and I'm guessing I'm not the only one.

The F1 TV thing can't come soon enough to the UK, I feel the next 5 years of no live free to air coverage will really hit the sport hard here. Worrying for the future considering that the majority of team personnel, engineers etc are from the UK.
Same here, albeit over a slightly longer time frame. Process has unfolded roughly as follows:-

Live F1 partially leaves full free-to-air. No wish to have Sky, so see fewer races
With a lack of a Sunday afternoon "anchor event", I find other things to occupy my time. Dubious streams if it's a race I really want to see
Interest in those other things bleeds into remaining free-to-air weekend as well, so see even fewer race
Live F1 completely leaves free-to-air, other interests have taken over, so now see no F1 at all. Still aware of schedule and read pre/post-race coverage
Interest in other stuff erodes attention to schedule, so less focus on written coverage

Spin forward to today, and I now have no idea if a race is even on, let alone where it is. It might as well be WRC. I might read reports at some point, but there's no urgency to it at all. The irony is that lack of free-to-air coverage made me realise just how little broadcast TV I was actually consuming, which in turn meant cancelling the TV Licence and, to paraphrase a TV show of my childhood, "going out to do something less boring instead", so even if F1 were to return full time, I'd not see it anyway!

I still enjoy motorsport, but the above process has had an inevitable impact on how much I now watch. I feel like I've stepped outside the bubble, so increasingly just can't be bothered to get energised about a lot of what goes on. That may have happened anyway, there's obviously no way to tell, but it certainly feels like it was the loss of live F1 that kick-started the process.



5678

6,121 posts

166 months

Thursday 14th February
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Reluctant sky subscriber here.

I only have it for F1. Sure, the other channels get used, but if F1 was still on BBC then I'd not have Sky. Netflix, AppleTV cover all other bases more than adequately.

I cant wait for some streaming PPV based solution. I'll be front of the list for that and also to leave Sky.

HardtopManual

1,098 posts

105 months

Thursday 14th February
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I just received an email from F1 regarding their streaming service. "Brilliant!" I thought. It's coming to the UK. Turns out they don't filter their emails by subscriber location. Disappointing.

Another F1 fan here who won't pay for Sky. Yes, I can afford it, but it's terrible value if all you want is F1, and we already subscribe to Netflix, Amazon Prime and, err, the BBC. I don't really want to move away from Virgin fibre broadband either, which has been excellent (yes I know this isn't the case for everyone).

NowTV looks crap on a recent TV due to being 720p.

/rant