F1 Good Guys

F1 Good Guys

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CocoUK

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694 posts

126 months

Sunday 21st July
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I've just watched the SkyF1 'Button reunited with Brawn' feature, which I thought was very good and felt genuinely quite an emotional reunion, understandably.

I always listen whenever Ross Brawn speaks. I've never met the man but I find he comes across very honest, articulate, sincere and a thoroughly decent gentleman.

This had me thinking - who else within the past & present F1 community would we consider holding many positive qualities?

37chevy

2,755 posts

100 months

Sunday 21st July
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Ken Tyrell
Jackie Stewart
Charlie Whiting
Murray Walker

Edited by 37chevy on Sunday 21st July 20:18

TheDeuce

2,554 posts

10 months

Sunday 21st July
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37chevy said:
Ken Tyrell
Jackie Stewart
Charlie Whiting
Murray Walker

Edited by 37chevy on Sunday 21st July 20:18
Niki didn't quite make the cut?

CanAm

4,564 posts

216 months

Sunday 21st July
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Dan Gurney

LaurasOtherHalf

15,251 posts

140 months

Sunday 21st July
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The Doc, Sid Watkins for a start.

37chevy

2,755 posts

100 months

Sunday 21st July
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TheDeuce said:
Niki didn't quite make the cut?
It’s not an exhaustive list. There are plenty of others....of course you could suggest them instead of being an ass

Pericoloso

40,280 posts

107 months

Sunday 21st July
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Jim Clark.
Went home in between races,drove tractor on the family farm.
Very down to earth.

tweenster

21 posts

6 months

Sunday 21st July
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Patrick Head
Colin Chapman

TheDeuce

2,554 posts

10 months

Sunday 21st July
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37chevy said:
TheDeuce said:
Niki didn't quite make the cut?
It’s not an exhaustive list. There are plenty of others....of course you could suggest them instead of being an ass
Sorry, didn't mean to appear sarcastic - it was a genuine question.

And yes, it's a very long list.

I would add Niki, DC (and so many no longer with us drivers) as having mostly positive qualities, and leaving a positive impression on the sport. Also James Allison.

I'm sure it's controversial, but I would also say Bernie has had an overall positive effect on the sport. Albeit self-serving, he did make it accessible and understandable to the live viewer at home. Also pulled a good few strings to keep the show on the road when the wheels were at danger of falling off. Again, self serving all the way - but it did keep the sport going and growing.


forsure

1,828 posts

212 months

Sunday 21st July
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Damon Hill

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

22,255 posts

179 months

Sunday 21st July
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I met Gary Anderson a few times. He seems like a decent chap

slipstream 1985

6,481 posts

123 months

Sunday 21st July
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Jackie Stewart comes across as a bit of a dick to me.

blackmme

25 posts

27 months

Sunday 21st July
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tweenster said:
Patrick Head
Colin Chapman
I’m not sure if Colin can make a list of F1 good guys to be honest and I say that as a huge admirer of his talent/genius.

Most first hand sources suggest that he could be a tyrannical boss, touchy, manipulative and vain.
From an engineering perspective Lotus pushed the envelope to the very limit of technical integrity. Yes the drivers knew of and took the risks to sit in often the very fastest cars.

It’s easy to argue that Colin was a genius much harder to argue that he was a ‘Good Guy’ in my honest opinion.

Regards Mike

Muzzer79

2,796 posts

131 months

Sunday 21st July
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I think we need to have a distinction between ‘positive contribution’ or ‘talented’ and ‘nice bloke’

Patrick Head was often not a very nice chap. For example, his motivational chat to Heinz-Harald Frentzen when he was struggling in 1997?
“You know your problem? You’re not fking quick enough”

As for Bernie E, this is the man who said Hitler “got things done” who bled racetracks dry before moving on to another country/area, who connived with Mosley to ensure teams never got longevity and a business model that worked.

Sure, he helped the likes of a Eddie Jordan and a Frank Williams from time to time, but it was always ultimately self-serving....

CocoUK

Original Poster:

694 posts

126 months

Sunday 21st July
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I'm unsure about Patrick Head.
He certainly appears like he could tear a phone book in half and worked during a very stressful & challenging period of F1 - although I don't recall any 'bad' examples

Edit: Muzzer79 - yes! I think the BTG podcast with Alan Jones also mentioned 'motivational words' - Paddy's off the list!

Edited by CocoUK on Sunday 21st July 23:06

CocoUK

Original Poster:

694 posts

126 months

Sunday 21st July
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In terms of current drivers, I guess Danny Ric?
He seems liked by plenty of drivers, including Max, gives the press plenty of time plus handled a couple of terrible situations rather well - it's early days but could be considered a good egg?

TheDeuce

2,554 posts

10 months

Sunday 21st July
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CocoUK said:
I'm unsure about Patrick Head.
He certainly appears like he could tear a phone book in half and worked during a very stressful & challenging period of F1 - although I don't recall any 'bad' examples
He's pretty much credited with turning Franks Williams team in to what they became, a dominant force. But is that his genius or Frank's genius to partner with him recognising the effect he could have? Could question the same about many F1 characters no doubt.

For me personally, I don't see mostly positive lasting memories from Head. I think he got the job done in a fairly crude way, which is fair enough - it was after all his job. I have no doubt he got an improved result out of a several drivers and engineers, but to get the 'best' result I think requires more the Toto method.

TheDeuce

2,554 posts

10 months

Sunday 21st July
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CocoUK said:
In terms of current drivers, I guess Danny Ric?
He seems liked by plenty of drivers, including Max, gives the press plenty of time plus handled a couple of terrible situations rather well - it's early days but could be considered a good egg?
In the history of F1 it's hard to recall a better 'egg' smile

I think he's already earned a special place in the sport due to his down to earth decency, humility and great attitude. Just really wish he had the drive to cement his name in the history books too! DR back to Red Bull or to Ferrari? Please. Please..

Steamer

11,074 posts

157 months

Sunday 21st July
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forsure said:
Damon Hill


I think we can let this minor outburst slide hehe

belleair302

6,126 posts

151 months

Sunday 21st July
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Bruce McLaren, Tyler Alexander and Jo Ramairez for three. Mario Andretti and Graham Hill are two more.