Ferrari

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dunc_sx

1,158 posts

152 months

Wednesday 12th February
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TheInternet said:
It's about the time to think about my annual hopeless WDC bet, Seb at 8/1 looks like it might be worth a go.
What's the odds on Charles then?

TheInternet

3,160 posts

118 months

Wednesday 12th February
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CL 5/1
MV 6/1

Neither appeal so much.

TheDeuce

5,739 posts

21 months

Wednesday 12th February
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TheInternet said:
CL 5/1
MV 6/1

Neither appeal so much.
And.. Lewis? smile

slipstream 1985

7,102 posts

134 months

Wednesday 12th February
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TheDeuce said:
TheInternet said:
CL 5/1
MV 6/1

Neither appeal so much.
And.. Lewis? smile
They've already given the trophy to him

AmoCS

972 posts

174 months

Stuart70

2,046 posts

138 months

Thursday 13th February
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marine boy said:
What is missing is the ring of steel Todt put up to protect the team from the upper Ferrari management along with Brawn having everybody working in the same direction without any blame games

More recently missing was also thrown out with the baby and bath water when the excellent, open working relationship between Aldo Costa and Pat Fry ceased when Aldo left

Wouldn't go as far as saying the cause of Ferrari's problems being the Italian way more of the wrong way as there are many extremely talented Italians within the team too

I'm sure an expert will disagree with the above but its just my opinion based on my experiences of working there for 7yrs
Great post, thank you for the insight.

TheDeuce

5,739 posts

21 months

Thursday 13th February
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AmoCS said:
Relax Ferrari fans - typical consumer group pouncing on the Ferrari launch hype to further their own ideals. Good move, and really the Mission Winnow stuff should probably go now... But I think the government will consider that come vote day the 'Ferrari Consumer Group' (half of the electorate) might feel quite strongly that Ferrari should be allowed to keep and race their shiny new car!!

I'm sure this will lead to 'something' but not the car being seized..

Fortitude

394 posts

147 months

Saturday 23rd May
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Ferrari Shell Commercial High Quality

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_kwxzU4wL4

I am NOT a Ferrari fanatic, but this particular commercial is considered by some as;

"THE. BEST. COMMERCIAL, EVER!!!!"

"I wish this commercial was two hours long..."

"The sound of those old engines... Man... Its like i melody i would listen for long hours."

"Best Sounding Commercial ever. Use good external Speakers or headphones.
Bad Ass."

"It didn't make me want to buy Shell gas, but I sure need a Ferrari...now!
(There you go Bernie, those are the sounds we miss)."

"This commercial will surely play an important role in keeping the car addiciton alive. Matchbox and Hotwheels have kept the visual art going for generations but its that noise only a formula one exhaust can make that sucks you in for life. Love those sounds! 312B for me.....but they are all amazing!"

"Fastest two minutes on TV"

"the drivers are: Alberto Ascari, John Surtees, Chris Amon, Jacky Ickx, Michael Schumacher (correct?)"

AJB88

5,769 posts

126 months

Saturday 23rd May
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it is a decent advert.

JVCraddock

9 posts

3 months

Thursday 18th June
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Ferrari were off the pace in testing and have publicly said they are not where they wish to be.

I could be way off but is it a bit odd to continually downplay your performance? Wouldn’t you normally tell your competitors, sponsors and fans that everything is ok?

Could this be gamesmanship?

TheDeuce

5,739 posts

21 months

Thursday 18th June
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JVCraddock said:
Ferrari were off the pace in testing and have publicly said they are not where they wish to be.

I could be way off but is it a bit odd to continually downplay your performance? Wouldn’t you normally tell your competitors, sponsors and fans that everything is ok?

Could this be gamesmanship?
I suppose it's possible. But more than that, I think it's sometimes less embarrassing to admit something isn't great upfront as opposed to holding face and waiting for everyone else to point it out at the first race.

Besides, their car is a new philosophy this year, major change from last. It's entirely believable they might struggle with it year one. Their competitors have simply had to refine what they were already great at last year.

I fully expect Ferrari to have a very unimpressive double weekend in Austria.

HustleRussell

17,905 posts

115 months

Tuesday 30th June
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So it wasn't gamesmanship! The car they turned up to testing with will see two race weekends at Austria and a significantly reworked version will arrive in Hungary

TheDeuce

5,739 posts

21 months

Tuesday 30th June
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HustleRussell said:
So it wasn't gamesmanship! The car they turned up to testing with will see two race weekends at Austria and a significantly reworked version will arrive in Hungary
Not exactly a surprise! But it's nice to know for sure - it looked a bit of a turd in testing because.. it's a bit of a turd.

This is probably it for Ferrari's chances of 2nd in WCC this year. A short season and they have effectively no hope of being anywhere useful in the first two races. Those two races will represent probably 15-20% of the season. Red Bull already probably had them this season anyway, but this all but cements it. Horner's smug face will be extra smug upon hearing this news.

Their new design needs to be awesome and refined to near perfection by the end of this season, they're more or less stuck with it as a concept for the entirety of next season too.

confucuis

1,107 posts

79 months

Tuesday 30th June
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HustleRussell said:
So it wasn't gamesmanship! The car they turned up to testing with will see two race weekends at Austria and a significantly reworked version will arrive in Hungary
Jesus that's pissed me off.


They should be ashamed of themselves. I know I am as a supporter.

CoolHands

10,957 posts

150 months

Tuesday 30th June
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Poor old vettel. No chance to show his mettle to the disbelievers!

TheDeuce

5,739 posts

21 months

Tuesday 30th June
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confucuis said:
Jesus that's pissed me off.


They should be ashamed of themselves. I know I am as a supporter.
When was the last time they did you proud?..

It boggles the mind how they have such great resources and experience yet still lose. Then they cheat, and still lose. They have unique 'special' advantages in the sport too, still don't get the job done..

I think it's safe to say they will now classify this as a development year. They don't want to look like they're trying too hard when red bull sweep past them.

JVCraddock

9 posts

3 months

Thursday 2nd July
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Just read a tweet from Karun Chandock referring to testing:

‘Ferrari were 11 mph slower than customer Alfa on straights - sandbagging, fuel system changes or draggy car?’

We’ll find out tomorrow!

TheDeuce

5,739 posts

21 months

Thursday 2nd July
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JVCraddock said:
Just read a tweet from Karun Chandock referring to testing:

‘Ferrari were 11 mph slower than customer Alfa on straights - sandbagging, fuel system changes or draggy car?’

We’ll find out tomorrow!
The Alfa would have the same fuel system changes wouldn't it?

Ferrari have said their aero hasn't worked and is way too draggy. If it's sandbagging it's the ultimate sandbag, ever!

Indeed, bring on tomorrow!!!

HustleRussell

17,905 posts

115 months

Thursday 2nd July
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JVCraddock said:
Just read a tweet from Karun Chandock referring to testing:

‘Ferrari were 11 mph slower than customer Alfa on straights - sandbagging, fuel system changes or draggy car?’

We’ll find out tomorrow!
This seems like a thing but it isn't necessarily. Top of the speed traps is almost always a lesser developed customer engined car.

Piginapoke

1,101 posts

140 months

Thursday 2nd July
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I'd be a bit careful about the whole Ferrari disaster line- I think it suits them to come in as underdogs.

Cars are quite similar to last year (apart from Racing Point) and Ferrari chassis was fine- it won't have turned into a dog overnight.