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The official advice around the world is to avoid close contact if infection is suspected. It seems highly likely that infection is possible in the area by then, and shoving thousands of people together in the stands isn't exactly following the advice. It's sad on several levels, but it's hard to see it going ahead. Not least now FE have cancelled.
FE are looking to reschedule if the situation improves, so cancellation doesn't necessarily mean we lose a race this season. No doubt the circuit will eventually want both races to go ahead as they need the ticket money - more than ever given that they will already have started spending to prepare the circuit for both events..
TheDeuce said:
The official advice around the world is to avoid close contact if infection is suspected. It seems highly likely that infection is possible in the area by then, and shoving thousands of people together in the stands isn't exactly following the advice. It's sad on several levels, but it's hard to see it going ahead. Not least now FE have cancelled.
FE are looking to reschedule if the situation improves, so cancellation doesn't necessarily mean we lose a race this season. No doubt the circuit will eventually want both races to go ahead as they need the ticket money - more than ever given that they will already have started spending to prepare the circuit for both events..
FE are looking to reschedule if the situation improves, so cancellation doesn't necessarily mean we lose a race this season. No doubt the circuit will eventually want both races to go ahead as they need the ticket money - more than ever given that they will already have started spending to prepare the circuit for both events..
The circuit is state owned.
It’s there only to promote China.
If there is a health risk, no one will go anyway.
When the track was built, it had a capacity of 230,000. They rarely get over 30,000 even with free tickets. Most of the stands knocked down now so you don’t see empty stands on TV.
Some Moto GP races only got 10,000 spectators.
Better cancel it now and the bad publicity will be lost in all the other bad publicity. If they cancel it later, it might be more obvious bad publicity.
It’s a cheap and easy GP to attend so I will miss it.
Exige77 said:
The circuit is state owned.
It’s there only to promote China.
If there is a health risk, no one will go anyway.
When the track was built, it had a capacity of 230,000. They rarely get over 30,000 even with free tickets. Most of the stands knocked down now so you don’t see empty stands on TV.
Some Moto GP races only got 10,000 spectators.
Better cancel it now and the bad publicity will be lost in all the other bad publicity. If they cancel it later, it might be more obvious bad publicity.
It’s a cheap and easy GP to attend so I will miss it.
Given what you have said, it almost sounds like they may as well run the race as planned and simply not allow people to attend. Would be a bit weird granted, but given that it's all about image and TV rights... Would it matter?
Weirder things have happened..
Deesee said:
Theres talk, it may be switched with Sochi.
DHL will have there work cut out..
That could be interesting. Sotchi would be 10c cooler than usual, China 10c hotter. That's a good few years of data and experience out the window.DHL will have there work cut out..
Obviously the situation in China is far more serious than F1 strategy or logistical concerns.. Nonetheless, swapping races around would be a big headache but would surely be preferable to dropping a race entirely.
TheDeuce said:
Deesee said:
Theres talk, it may be switched with Sochi.
DHL will have there work cut out..
That could be interesting. Sotchi would be 10c cooler than usual, China 10c hotter. That's a good few years of data and experience out the window.DHL will have there work cut out..
Obviously the situation in China is far more serious than F1 strategy or logistical concerns.. Nonetheless, swapping races around would be a big headache but would surely be preferable to dropping a race entirely.
Sochi is a fly away, I'm unsure of where the Sochi kit would have been forwarded too US/Mexico? I'm sure the China kit would have gone on to Azerbaijan?
Ill find last yrs tyre data.
EDIT
C2/3/4 for both races..
Edited by Deesee on Monday 3rd February 15:54
TheDeuce said:
Interesting point you make about attendance - and I knew it wasn't a sell out but didn't realise how low the numbers are.. Jeez.
Given what you have said, it almost sounds like they may as well run the race as planned and simply not allow people to attend. Would be a bit weird granted, but given that it's all about image and TV rights... Would it matter?
Weirder things have happened..
Would we even notice the difference?Given what you have said, it almost sounds like they may as well run the race as planned and simply not allow people to attend. Would be a bit weird granted, but given that it's all about image and TV rights... Would it matter?
Weirder things have happened..
In reality it will come down to governmental advice as to whether it is safe to travel or not. At the moment, both the FCO and WHO are advising against all but essential travel to the entire country of China, not just the Wuhan province. If that situation continues then nobody will realistically be able to go there to put on a mere motor race, as that is clearly not an essential situation. Even just simple things like getting travel insurance and finding a hotel that is open and accepting international travellers will be impossible for the teams, media and officials.
Deesee said:
Correct and the tyres would have been ordered this week for China.
Sochi is a fly away, I'm unsure of where the Sochi kit would have been forwarded too US/Mexico? I'm sure the China kit would have gone on to Azerbaijan?
I can't recall if I read about or watched something about the logistics involved in F1. What I do recall is that it's hugely complex and surprising that a great deal goes by sea. So you have these oddities whereby a lot of the infrastructure for Singapore and Japan is already en-route and what's needed for Australia and most likely China is already there. Either way, binning China will cause a bit of a headache.....which I guess is better than a dose of the old Coronas.Sochi is a fly away, I'm unsure of where the Sochi kit would have been forwarded too US/Mexico? I'm sure the China kit would have gone on to Azerbaijan?
StevieBee said:
I can't recall if I read about or watched something about the logistics involved in F1. What I do recall is that it's hugely complex and surprising that a great deal goes by sea. So you have these oddities whereby a lot of the infrastructure for Singapore and Japan is already en-route and what's needed for Australia and most likely China is already there. Either way, binning China will cause a bit of a headache.....which I guess is better than a dose of the old Coronas.
It would be great if the Netflix series devoted one of their episodes to this, but it probably wouldn't show F1 in a very good light.thegreenhell said:
Would we even notice the difference?
In reality it will come down to governmental advice as to whether it is safe to travel or not. At the moment, both the FCO and WHO are advising against all but essential travel to the entire country of China, not just the Wuhan province. If that situation continues then nobody will realistically be able to go there to put on a mere motor race, as that is clearly not an essential situation. Even just simple things like getting travel insurance and finding a hotel that is open and accepting international travellers will be impossible for the teams, media and officials.
It's OK, I was only being tongue in cheek In reality it will come down to governmental advice as to whether it is safe to travel or not. At the moment, both the FCO and WHO are advising against all but essential travel to the entire country of China, not just the Wuhan province. If that situation continues then nobody will realistically be able to go there to put on a mere motor race, as that is clearly not an essential situation. Even just simple things like getting travel insurance and finding a hotel that is open and accepting international travellers will be impossible for the teams, media and officials.
Yup, can't see any practical option but to cancel it, or as is apparently under discussion switch it with Sotchi and fingers crossed 6 months later the situation in China will be much improved.
sparta6 said:
Should be cancelled, better to be safe than sorry.
Lewis suffered some man flu in Germany, he sure won't fancy the Chinese version
as someone highlighted to me the other night, it isn't just the risk to the competitors and their entourage - (although that's pretty damn important to them). Its that after a formula 1 event people will literally depart to all corners of the globe - you couldn't ask for a better virus spread model.Lewis suffered some man flu in Germany, he sure won't fancy the Chinese version
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