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Dreaming of which circuit to add in is fun internet chat and all but with these timescales an entirely new unplanned race is never going to happen, even on a recent F1 circuit. Contracts, logistics, traffic management, tickets etc, you're talking months of planning not weeks.
I think only an existing race doubling up would stand a remote chance. But even then they'll need some very generous terms from F1 (i.e. paid to run the race, not the other way around).
I can't imagine Silverstone pulling it off, for example, and there are few better positioned to do so in theory.
I think only an existing race doubling up would stand a remote chance. But even then they'll need some very generous terms from F1 (i.e. paid to run the race, not the other way around).
I can't imagine Silverstone pulling it off, for example, and there are few better positioned to do so in theory.
ukaskew said:
Dreaming of which circuit to add in is fun internet chat and all but with these timescales an entirely new unplanned race is never going to happen, even on a recent F1 circuit. Contracts, logistics, traffic management, tickets etc, you're talking months of planning not weeks.
I think only an existing race doubling up would stand a remote chance. But even then they'll need some very generous terms from F1 (i.e. paid to run the race, not the other way around).
I can't imagine Silverstone pulling it off, for example, and there are few better positioned to do so in theory.
I don't think being paid to run the race would be necessary - "much reduced" hosting fees leading to cheaper tickets would spark a high level of interest IMO. I think only an existing race doubling up would stand a remote chance. But even then they'll need some very generous terms from F1 (i.e. paid to run the race, not the other way around).
I can't imagine Silverstone pulling it off, for example, and there are few better positioned to do so in theory.
As for location it'd have to be somewhere in Europe - with zandvoort 2 weeks after China they'd be tacking one on to the front of European leg so not such a logistical challenge.
Teddy Lop said:
ukaskew said:
Dreaming of which circuit to add in is fun internet chat and all but with these timescales an entirely new unplanned race is never going to happen, even on a recent F1 circuit. Contracts, logistics, traffic management, tickets etc, you're talking months of planning not weeks.
I think only an existing race doubling up would stand a remote chance. But even then they'll need some very generous terms from F1 (i.e. paid to run the race, not the other way around).
I can't imagine Silverstone pulling it off, for example, and there are few better positioned to do so in theory.
I don't think being paid to run the race would be necessary - "much reduced" hosting fees leading to cheaper tickets would spark a high level of interest IMO. I think only an existing race doubling up would stand a remote chance. But even then they'll need some very generous terms from F1 (i.e. paid to run the race, not the other way around).
I can't imagine Silverstone pulling it off, for example, and there are few better positioned to do so in theory.
As for location it'd have to be somewhere in Europe - with zandvoort 2 weeks after China they'd be tacking one on to the front of European leg so not such a logistical challenge.
Don’t forget with no China that’s almost whole month of no F1.
It’s 25 days the same as the summer break.
They’ll run a dark race (no fans), on a grade one circuit in Europe, or redirect the shipping to another Asian/Middle Eastern destination.
I’d give put on a show at silverstone and invite the local schools, let the kids watch F1.
I also saw this yesterday, to squeeze the GP in later, can’t see it happening through.
It’s 25 days the same as the summer break.
They’ll run a dark race (no fans), on a grade one circuit in Europe, or redirect the shipping to another Asian/Middle Eastern destination.
I’d give put on a show at silverstone and invite the local schools, let the kids watch F1.
I also saw this yesterday, to squeeze the GP in later, can’t see it happening through.
Deesee said:
Don’t forget with no China that’s almost whole month of no F1.
It’s 25 days the same as the summer break.
They’ll run a dark race (no fans), on a grade one circuit in Europe, or redirect the shipping to another Asian/Middle Eastern destination.
I’d give put on a show at silverstone and invite the local schools, let the kids watch F1.
I also saw this yesterday, to squeeze the GP in later, can’t see it happening through.
I think... Lots of possible solutions but the teams don't need to accept any of them, and history suggests they won't!It’s 25 days the same as the summer break.
They’ll run a dark race (no fans), on a grade one circuit in Europe, or redirect the shipping to another Asian/Middle Eastern destination.
I’d give put on a show at silverstone and invite the local schools, let the kids watch F1.
I also saw this yesterday, to squeeze the GP in later, can’t see it happening through.
The circuits also don't appear to want any schedule changes, hardly surprising given the amount of prep and marketing they put in to an F1 event.
I think what we have ended up with is a 21 race season, and there will be a long break due to China not being feasible and no workable alternative. They probably will come up with something, some sort of F1 event to fill that gap - but not a race.
It's a little sad, but I think it is what it is. I'm sure the majority in F1 management and teams are far more eager to focus on the upcoming season than spend time trying to ressurect a single lost race.
Deesee said:
Don’t forget with no China that’s almost whole month of no F1.
It’s 25 days the same as the summer break.
They’ll run a dark race (no fans), on a grade one circuit in Europe, or redirect the shipping to another Asian/Middle Eastern destination.
I’d give put on a show at silverstone and invite the local schools, let the kids watch F1.
I also saw this yesterday, to squeeze the GP in later, can’t see it happening through.
Can't see a dark race happening but wouldn't be surprised if there was extra testing somewhere in Europe that weekend.It’s 25 days the same as the summer break.
They’ll run a dark race (no fans), on a grade one circuit in Europe, or redirect the shipping to another Asian/Middle Eastern destination.
I’d give put on a show at silverstone and invite the local schools, let the kids watch F1.
I also saw this yesterday, to squeeze the GP in later, can’t see it happening through.
DaveTheRave87 said:
Deesee said:
Don’t forget with no China that’s almost whole month of no F1.
It’s 25 days the same as the summer break.
They’ll run a dark race (no fans), on a grade one circuit in Europe, or redirect the shipping to another Asian/Middle Eastern destination.
I’d give put on a show at silverstone and invite the local schools, let the kids watch F1.
I also saw this yesterday, to squeeze the GP in later, can’t see it happening through.
Can't see a dark race happening but wouldn't be surprised if there was extra testing somewhere in Europe that weekend.It’s 25 days the same as the summer break.
They’ll run a dark race (no fans), on a grade one circuit in Europe, or redirect the shipping to another Asian/Middle Eastern destination.
I’d give put on a show at silverstone and invite the local schools, let the kids watch F1.
I also saw this yesterday, to squeeze the GP in later, can’t see it happening through.
Dark race takes away the policing, traffic and other contract issues while allowing the x billion viewers the race.
Any way just my thoughts
What's interesting now is that its pretty clear it's not happening.. yet still no official announcement. And I see they're still promoting the tickets via Google paid listings.
As mentioned earlier in this thread, probably niether the organisers nor FOM want to be the one who calls it off for fear of being the one to break contract... Both must be praying for the Chinese government to do the job for them!
As mentioned earlier in this thread, probably niether the organisers nor FOM want to be the one who calls it off for fear of being the one to break contract... Both must be praying for the Chinese government to do the job for them!
Deesee said:
problem with moving races around is every venue is bled dry with the hosting fees as they stand - why should they then flex to accommodate the F1s scheduling problem without some serious "what's in it for me?" discount.Exige77 said:
Confirmed original date cancelled
..https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.chinese...
Deesee said:
Exige77 said:
Confirmed original date cancelled
..https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.chinese...
Which is fine. Nothing wrong with a bit of positive spin.
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