F1 cancelled this year?

F1 cancelled this year?

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TheDeuce

4,696 posts

18 months

Tuesday 24th March
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MiniMan64 said:
Gazzab said:
But the normal rules won’t apply. Whilst it’s 99% certain that there won’t be any races this season, it might be that just a handful of races could be a championship.
I’d imagine that to be true. They’ll decide what they decide.

But the original question was if we’d had a random winner at a theoretically held Aus GP would they have been world champion?
They could change the rules, but only ahead of the races that were counted. So, I can't see any way the Melbourne GP would have counted as a solo race championship win - not unless they had changed the rules ahead of time, which we know they did not.

Winning the sole GP in 2020 would have awarded the driver some interesting stats though:

- undefeated for the entire season
- won every race in 2020
- led the entire season
- perfect reliability
- HAAS (probably) fail to complete a single 2020 race

Etc etc. All complete nonsense but the way F1 records are logged and thrown around, it'd all count!

Gazzab

17,821 posts

234 months

Tuesday 24th March
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MiniMan64 said:
Gazzab said:
But the normal rules won’t apply. Whilst it’s 99% certain that there won’t be any races this season, it might be that just a handful of races could be a championship.
I’d imagine that to be true. They’ll decide what they decide.

But the original question was if we’d had a random winner at a theoretically held Aus GP would they have been world champion?
Yes probably, maybe, definitely, no one knows.

StevieBee

8,475 posts

207 months

Tuesday 24th March
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TheDeuce said:
thegreenhell said:
Chase Carey is still dreaming of 15-18 races this year.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/carey-coronavir...
Absolute buffoon. That's a total impossibility, just to get the kit moving in order to meet that schedule would require the teams to be instructed today.. and it's probably months before a big enough chunk of the planet is freed up enough for that to happen.

Best guess he's maintaining a positive rhetoric as he knows that claims will be made for services not rendered to sponsors etc and will be best advised to act as if the solution is in sight for as long as possible. Even if he knows the turd has already dropped.
Logistically, it could be possible but would requiring a lot of superfluous stuff to be dispensed with. A good model to look at was the old A1GP series that managed a global championship over five months. It achieved this by keeping things like hospitality units and fancy pit garage furniture to a minimum.

But I've made peace with the fact that the best we can hope for this year is a few non-championship races in the autumn. If they can manage that, I think they will have done good given everything that's going on.

sparta6

1,548 posts

52 months

Tuesday 24th March
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thegreenhell said:
Chase Carey is still dreaming of 15-18 races this year.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/carey-coronavir...
Hilarious.



TheDeuce

4,696 posts

18 months

Tuesday 24th March
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Mark Priestley (ask Elvis) did a video summary of all the issues facing an F1 restart this year. I don't think any of the problems hadn't already been discussed on these forums tbh.

But bundled together, all the various complications... It does indeed seem laughable that anything other than a token gesture can can happen. Even then it would happen due to good fortune more than good as 'a plan'.

Nonetheless I feel some sympathy for Carey. I'm not suggesting any of us should believe what he says.. but he's heading up an enterprise they paid billions for and the wheels just fell off. Frankly, he's got bigger balls than I have just by continuing to give any comment.

In F1 terms, everyone is screwed to various degrees, as are many of us no doubt. It's just been a truly ste year biggrin

sc0tt

16,757 posts

153 months

Wednesday 25th March
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When do you think we will get news re. Canada?

I’m due to go (i expect I won’t be) and need to move flights etc.

Gazzab

17,821 posts

234 months

Wednesday 25th March
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Canada won’t happen.

sandman77

1,606 posts

90 months

Wednesday 25th March
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If Canada goes ahead I certainly cannot see that there would be any spectators there.

Kraken

1,364 posts

152 months

Wednesday 25th March
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According to Trump it will be over by Easter so nothing to worry about. wink :P

HDJ100

87 posts

98 months

Wednesday 25th March
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sc0tt said:
When do you think we will get news re. Canada?

I’m due to go (i expect I won’t be) and need to move flights etc.
I don't think Canada is going to happen. I've got flights booked for Austin and am doubting that will go ahead. Even if it does they might well move the date which will make my flight and accommodation booking fun.

Derek Smith

35,644 posts

200 months

Wednesday 25th March
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I've got to say that Eric might be right. This is the worst season I can remember.

Eric Mc

109,933 posts

217 months

Wednesday 25th March
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I'm going to get my Scalextric set up and running again.

TheDeuce

4,696 posts

18 months

Wednesday 25th March
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Derek Smith said:
I've got to say that Eric might be right. This is the worst season I can remember.
rofl

It's definitely gone downhill!

sparta6

1,548 posts

52 months

Wednesday 25th March
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Derek Smith said:
I've got to say that Eric might be right. This is the worst season I can remember.
laughlaughlaughlaughlaugh

It's even worse than F1 at Paul Ricard

sc0tt

16,757 posts

153 months

Wednesday 25th March
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HDJ100 said:
sc0tt said:
When do you think we will get news re. Canada?

I’m due to go (i expect I won’t be) and need to move flights etc.
I don't think Canada is going to happen. I've got flights booked for Austin and am doubting that will go ahead. Even if it does they might well move the date which will make my flight and accommodation booking fun.
Indeed i’m just wondering when I will hear.

jsf

15,515 posts

188 months

Wednesday 25th March
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sparta6 said:
laughlaughlaughlaughlaugh

It's even worse than F1 at Paul Ricard
Steady on now.

LucyP

233 posts

11 months

Wednesday 25th March
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I expect that the cancellation of Canada will be made in the next 2 weeks. Infection rates are still only in the hundreds per day, but have skyrocketed in the last 2 days.

You won't hear about Austin for months. Austin is 7 months away. It's so far away, it's impossible to know and it depends what Trump does/is forced into doing. You have to look at Italy. Watch their experience carefully because it's essentially being repeated in Spain, London and New York. In fact the rate of mortality increase day by day in New York is the fastest in the world. It depends on how long it takes the new case rate in Italy to drop to none (currently it is over 5,000 a day), and stay there, such that there is no second wave of infection. You can then plot recovery times from there, and apply that to other countries who are behind Italy, such as America, providing they lockdown.

The USA has the usual false sense of security. There are a lot of cases in New York, because there are a lot of people. There are less than 70 cases in North and South Dakota combined, because even though the states are about 150,000 square miles, there are few people, so it all depends on how sensible Trump is, and at the moment, I think you know the answer to that one.

I also think that Liberty Media might be under some pressure to say nothing at the moment. If you have the President saying that he hopes to have the USA re-opened by Easter, and a massive US organisation saying that the GP in Texas in 7 months has been cancelled, it's yet another organisation making a mockery of Trump's grossly unrealistic outlook.

It is also impossible to know what the status of the race will be, and what the economy will look like. Will any of the teams want to go? And it is impossible to know what travel restrictions might be in place in October.

Edited by LucyP on Wednesday 25th March 12:09

Pericoloso

42,119 posts

115 months

Wednesday 25th March
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TheDeuce said:
rofl

It's definitely gone downhill!
To go downhill ,it needs to go uphill first.

It's gone nowhere so far ,except a wasted trip to Oz......frown



jsf

15,515 posts

188 months

Wednesday 25th March
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There is always a second wave of infection with a pandemic.

What Trump does or says is irrelevant, it's what the states do and what Congress frees up financially that matter.

LucyP

233 posts

11 months

Wednesday 25th March
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If containment remains in place through lockdown, and works there will not be a second wave. And Trump can re-open America. If the individual states don't comply he can refuse to send them Federal Aid. The Democratic states are likely to refuse and be more punished than the Republican states, who are more likely to comply. He can also tell his supporters and the media who support him (Fox News) to just ignore the ban. If you don't think that he would do that, we must be talking about a different Trump, and if you don't think they would do that, then why were they queuing up to buy guns when the pandemic was announced, whereas we were queuing up to buy toilet paper.