F1 cancelled this year?

F1 cancelled this year?

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jsf

16,541 posts

189 months

Friday 27th March
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TheDeuce said:
LucyP said:
Your modelling?

You're a "business systems consultant" (whatever that means) from the UK Midlands. What scientific modelling about a German health situation could you possibly do that was anything other than meaningless?
Lots of people take a learned interest in other things beyond their day job. People tend to have more than a single facet.

You're a good example. For the most part you present gentle tedium, which is great to read around bedtime. Then occasionally you also show a talent for extreme rudeness and self righteousness.
That is without doubt the best thing you have ever posted on this Forum. Outstanding. biggrin

LaurasOtherHalf

17,059 posts

149 months

Friday 27th March
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Personally I think the car manufacturers will want to show a “business is normal” stance so will remain, others I think will be in serious trouble;

Williams
Sauber/Alfa Romeo
Haas

Racing point I’m unsure about but it could be argued it’s in no less peril than Haas.

Unless they all turn into ventilator manufacturers overnight there will already have been serious talks at the above on how long they can last.

Petrus1983

3,509 posts

115 months

Friday 27th March
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Unless they all turn into ventilator manufacturers overnight there will already have been serious talks at the above on how long they can last.
Apparently McLaren, Williams, Red Bull, Renault, Racing Point and Mercedes are now making ventilators.

KevinCamaroSS

8,349 posts

233 months

Friday 27th March
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Petrus1983 said:
Apparently McLaren, Williams, Red Bull, Renault, Racing Point and Mercedes are now making ventilators.
Good news indeed if that is the case. Amazing what can be done if everybody pulls together.

In a brief response to LucyP I am indeed well qualified to comment on the subject, I just list what I currently do on my profile.

janesmith1950

6,191 posts

48 months

Friday 27th March
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Personally I think the car manufacturers will want to show a “business is normal” stance so will remain, others I think will be in serious trouble;

Williams
Sauber/Alfa Romeo
Haas

Racing point I’m unsure about but it could be argued it’s in no less peril than Haas.

Unless they all turn into ventilator manufacturers overnight there will already have been serious talks at the above on how long they can last.
Racing Point should be fine. They're tied up with Stroll/Aston Martin. I can only see them going south if Aston does and Stroll doesn't take the opportunity to buy the whole thing cheap.

tobinen

6,154 posts

98 months

Friday 27th March
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Chain Bear has an interesting view on the season and what might be possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6zmVmMZy1Q


Derek Smith

36,074 posts

201 months

Friday 27th March
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On the positive side, one team is not in the ascendant. It's all to play for.

If we do get our 8 races, then there is much more chance of a mix-up of results. If driver makes a mistake, it could be curtains for their chances of the WDC. On the other hand, drivers will have to take risks.

It could be good. If it starts of course.

TheDeuce

5,068 posts

19 months

Friday 27th March
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Derek Smith said:
On the positive side, one team is not in the ascendant. It's all to play for.

If we do get our 8 races, then there is much more chance of a mix-up of results. If driver makes a mistake, it could be curtains for their chances of the WDC. On the other hand, drivers will have to take risks.

It could be good. If it starts of course.
A grid full of drivers that haven't sat in an F1 car for 6 months will indeed be interesting. Only so much they can do in the gym to keep driving fit..

I expect a few 'sub optimal' performances upon return.

NM62

629 posts

103 months

Friday 27th March
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Petrus1983 said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Unless they all turn into ventilator manufacturers overnight there will already have been serious talks at the above on how long they can last.
Apparently McLaren, Williams, Red Bull, Renault, Racing Point and Mercedes are now making ventilators.
Nice! Hope they do a Dyson (I heard the Govt ordered 10,000 and he donated 5,000). Sorry for going O/T.

Petrus1983

3,509 posts

115 months

Friday 27th March
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NM62 said:
Nice! Hope they do a Dyson (I heard the Govt ordered 10,000 and he donated 5,000).
I’ve just read that - that’s a v nice gesture. I doubt Williams would be in the same position to do so but just embracing the challenge itself is good.

KevinCamaroSS

8,349 posts

233 months

Friday 27th March
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TheDeuce said:
A grid full of drivers that haven't sat in an F1 car for 6 months will indeed be interesting. Only so much they can do in the gym to keep driving fit..

I expect a few 'sub optimal' performances upon return.
Let's hope they add one days testing prior to the first race.

TheDeuce

5,068 posts

19 months

Friday 27th March
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KevinCamaroSS said:
TheDeuce said:
A grid full of drivers that haven't sat in an F1 car for 6 months will indeed be interesting. Only so much they can do in the gym to keep driving fit..

I expect a few 'sub optimal' performances upon return.
Let's hope they add one days testing prior to the first race.
Oddly enough we were talking to an F1 fan friend about that possibility (requirement really, imo) and we got on to considering whether the season would begin at all, or if we just go to next year - which seems fairly likely.

Question: if F1 doesn't run until next season, will they still do pre-season testing? Which would be unusual in that it would mean we've had two testing sessions back to back, a year apart and with basically the 'same cars'.

Derek Smith

36,074 posts

201 months

Friday 27th March
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TheDeuce said:
KevinCamaroSS said:
TheDeuce said:
A grid full of drivers that haven't sat in an F1 car for 6 months will indeed be interesting. Only so much they can do in the gym to keep driving fit..

I expect a few 'sub optimal' performances upon return.
Let's hope they add one days testing prior to the first race.
Oddly enough we were talking to an F1 fan friend about that possibility (requirement really, imo) and we got on to considering whether the season would begin at all, or if we just go to next year - which seems fairly likely.

Question: if F1 doesn't run until next season, will they still do pre-season testing? Which would be unusual in that it would mean we've had two testing sessions back to back, a year apart and with basically the 'same cars'.
There are so many unknowns that it's impossible to predict. One would assume there would be a lot of pressure from the teams to do what will cost them little. They would have had nearly 18 months with little/no income and lots of costs.

Clockwork Cupcake

63,398 posts

225 months

Friday 27th March
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TheDeuce said:
Question: if F1 doesn't run until next season, will they still do pre-season testing? Which would be unusual in that it would mean we've had two testing sessions back to back, a year apart and with basically the 'same cars'.
I think they absolutely have to. You can't just lay up a car for a year and then expect to jump in it and rag it.

Gazzab

17,956 posts

235 months

Friday 27th March
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TheDeuce said:
Oddly enough we were talking to an F1 fan friend about that possibility (requirement really, imo) and we got on to considering whether the season would begin at all, or if we just go to next year - which seems fairly likely.

Question: if F1 doesn't run until next season, will they still do pre-season testing? Which would be unusual in that it would mean we've had two testing sessions back to back, a year apart and with basically the 'same cars'.
The cars won’t run at all this season. They might run next season but that’s not certain.

REALIST123

13,326 posts

106 months

Friday 27th March
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Gazzab said:
TheDeuce said:
Oddly enough we were talking to an F1 fan friend about that possibility (requirement really, imo) and we got on to considering whether the season would begin at all, or if we just go to next year - which seems fairly likely.

Question: if F1 doesn't run until next season, will they still do pre-season testing? Which would be unusual in that it would mean we've had two testing sessions back to back, a year apart and with basically the 'same cars'.
The cars won’t run at all this season. They might run next season but that’s not certain.
Even less certain now that they’re considering moving new rules to ‘23 and halted work on them for a while.

jsf

16,541 posts

189 months

Friday 27th March
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
I think they absolutely have to. You can't just lay up a car for a year and then expect to jump in it and rag it.
Course you can, we do it all the time.

RDMcG

14,881 posts

160 months

Friday 27th March
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Gazzab said:
The cars won’t run at all this season. They might run next season but that’s not certain.
Even in the current debacle, technology does not stand still...you often see the mid-season changes with the rules on various cars. I would guess that they would advance the stuff that might normally be in mid season if they can, thus testing would likely occur. It will be the same cars I would think, just developed far beyond what they planned.

Not sure about drivers either...will the lineups remain tha same?

TheDeuce

5,068 posts

19 months

Friday 27th March
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
TheDeuce said:
Question: if F1 doesn't run until next season, will they still do pre-season testing? Which would be unusual in that it would mean we've had two testing sessions back to back, a year apart and with basically the 'same cars'.
I think they absolutely have to. You can't just lay up a car for a year and then expect to jump in it and rag it.
They're not the same cars in any case, all stripped down, rebuilt and new powertrain for a new season. I meant 'same car' as in same spec.

Gazzab

17,956 posts

235 months

Friday 27th March
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RDMcG said:
Gazzab said:
The cars won’t run at all this season. They might run next season but that’s not certain.
Even in the current debacle, technology does not stand still...you often see the mid-season changes with the rules on various cars. I would guess that they would advance the stuff that might normally be in mid season if they can, thus testing would likely occur. It will be the same cars I would think, just developed far beyond what they planned.

Not sure about drivers either...will the lineups remain tha same?
Most drivers are out of contract. I can’t see the f1 teams spending much time developing their cars. They know the writing is on the wall re this season, possibly next season and is maybe gone forever.