F1 cancelled this year?

F1 cancelled this year?

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ukaskew

10,642 posts

222 months

Tuesday 7th April 2020
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Thundersports said:
Double headers might work at some circuits like Silverstone with there different layouts available?
A race on 'Silverstone reverse' was suggested but I'd be amazed if that was even remotely feasible. As far as I'm aware the circuit has no design concessions to be reconfigured 'the wrong way' so things like run-off, armco, emergency access points etc would all need to be significantly reworked (and FIA approval required). It would take months even if it was feasible, certainly couldn't be turned around with a week between races.

Clockwork Cupcake

74,625 posts

273 months

Tuesday 7th April 2020
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ukaskew said:
Thundersports said:
Double headers might work at some circuits like Silverstone with there different layouts available?
A race on 'Silverstone reverse' was suggested but I'd be amazed if that was even remotely feasible. As far as I'm aware the circuit has no design concessions to be reconfigured 'the wrong way' so things like run-off, armco, emergency access points etc would all need to be significantly reworked (and FIA approval required). It would take months even if it was feasible, certainly couldn't be turned around with a week between races.
Silverstone can be configured in several ways. As can many circuits. None of those configurations involve driving in a reverse direction though.



TheDeuce

21,820 posts

67 months

Tuesday 7th April 2020
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What would be wrong with simply repeating the GP on the same circuit, with no changes? In many ways it would be facsinating to see how minor chages, such as the weather and driver mistakes can influence a race.

I can't see a way we could lose as viewers personally. If the results for the top 3 are identical on both GP's then we get proof absolute that the right people ended in the right places. On the other hand, and as is more likely, we would see just how much fortune and circumstance effect the order.

Would such a crazy thing ever happen? Probably not smile

Although.. If Liberty lawyers determine that they can demand their full rights monies if they can find a contrived way to technically deliver a championship with whatever number races they promise to deliver as a minimum, then this and any of the other solutions on this thread could be considered. Depends who is motivated and by what amount of £££.

thegreenhell

15,446 posts

220 months

Tuesday 7th April 2020
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If they went to Silverstone on two separate days in autumn they're almost guaranteed two different types of weather to give them some variation.

Running the track in reverse will never happen. You only have to look at the runoffs to see that. It would be a huge job to rebuild the circuit for that.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 7th April 2020
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Thundersports said:
Double headers might work at some circuits like Silverstone with there different layouts available?
Only 1 layout is FIA graded for F1

sparta6

3,703 posts

101 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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ukaskew said:
A race on 'Silverstone reverse' was suggested but I'd be amazed if that was even remotely feasible. As far as I'm aware the circuit has no design concessions to be reconfigured 'the wrong way' so things like run-off, armco, emergency access points etc would all need to be significantly reworked (and FIA approval required). It would take months even if it was feasible, certainly couldn't be turned around with a week between races.
Certainly the case.
Also medical professionals will still be busy dealing with the China virus

Kraken

1,710 posts

201 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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TheDeuce said:
Although.. If Liberty lawyers determine that they can demand their full rights monies if they can find a contrived way to technically deliver a championship with whatever number races they promise to deliver as a minimum, then this and any of the other solutions on this thread could be considered. Depends who is motivated and by what amount of £££.
15 is the magic number. Anything below that and they have to start paying back on the TV contracts pro rata.

Shelsleyf2

419 posts

233 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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ukaskew said:
Thundersports said:
Double headers might work at some circuits like Silverstone with there different layouts available?
A race on 'Silverstone reverse' was suggested but I'd be amazed if that was even remotely feasible. As far as I'm aware the circuit has no design concessions to be reconfigured 'the wrong way' so things like run-off, armco, emergency access points etc would all need to be significantly reworked (and FIA approval required). It would take months even if it was feasible, certainly couldn't be turned around with a week between races.
I doubt it has an FIA licence to be used in reverse.

df76

3,641 posts

279 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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Shelsleyf2 said:
I doubt it has an FIA licence to be used in reverse.
It won't have any sort of licence.

A circuit like Abu Dhabi has multiple configurations which I'm sure could get the right licence. However, can't see them doing it.

rider73

3,058 posts

78 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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in reverse... gear!!! now that would be a funny race.....

cuprabob

14,708 posts

215 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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rider73 said:
in reverse... gear!!! now that would be a funny race.....
That would maybe give Grosjean an distinct advantage as he has a fair bit of experience going backwards.

df76

3,641 posts

279 months

Thursday 9th April 2020
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Autosport today reports that Silverstone will offer to host more than one GP this year. There was even a comment about running in reverse (or not!).

BrettMRC

4,120 posts

161 months

Thursday 9th April 2020
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How long does a race have to be in order for it to count towards the chamopinship?

Might be interesting to have a shorter race on the saturday and a full race on the sunday. (not a qualifying race)

Eric Mc

122,094 posts

266 months

Thursday 9th April 2020
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BrettMRC said:
How long does a race have to be in order for it to count towards the chamopinship?

Might be interesting to have a shorter race on the saturday and a full race on the sunday. (not a qualifying race)
Minimum 300 km.

It used to be 500 km.

BrettMRC

4,120 posts

161 months

Thursday 9th April 2020
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Thanks for that - was rushed earlier so didn't get a chance to research it. (or spell)


anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 9th April 2020
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BrettMRC said:
How long does a race have to be in order for it to count towards the chamopinship?

Might be interesting to have a shorter race on the saturday and a full race on the sunday. (not a qualifying race)
It recently was 305km, subject to 2 hours maximum, except for Monaco which is shorter.


df76

3,641 posts

279 months

Thursday 9th April 2020
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Race needs to be at least 75% of the original length to award full points. There’s going to be some wriggle room given the circumstance.

oyster

12,613 posts

249 months

Thursday 9th April 2020
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I'd rather see just 5 full Grand Prix weekends than 10 or so curtailed/double race events.

It all depends whether you feel the need for there to be a championship, or whether having F1 Grands Prix is a higher priority.
For me, given what winning and participating in a GP has always been about, it's more important than some sort of fabricated championship.

If they can manage to get 8-10 full GP events to count as a championship, then great.

ajprice

27,556 posts

197 months

Thursday 9th April 2020
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Villeneuve speaks, and actually makes sense IMO. Scrap the 2020 championship and run some 'Grand Slam' events at the end of the year https://insideracing.com/index.php/formula-1/11356...

As it is now with the races being cancelled or postponed as it gets within a certain time of their calendar date, the space to run a championship gets ever smaller. Once the world is open again and clear of the virus, have a short run of races and maybe try out some of those different race formats Brawn was thinking of.

Edited by ajprice on Thursday 9th April 17:20

Petrus1983

8,777 posts

163 months

Thursday 9th April 2020
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I’d say that the way the teams have handled this crisis is far and above better than the way Chase and the FIA have. Project Pitlane is truly remarkable.