F1 cancelled this year?

F1 cancelled this year?

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ArnageWRC

2,066 posts

160 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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Obviously, this is an F1 thread, but if the quarantine guidelines mean no F1 races in Britain, it will also mean none of the other International series can visit either.

TheDeuce

21,662 posts

67 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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ArnageWRC said:
Obviously, this is an F1 thread, but if the quarantine guidelines mean no F1 races in Britain, it will also mean none of the other International series can visit either.
Absolutely. And various other major sports too. And more importantly (in general) endless lost business.

I am seriously doubting the quarantines will be as uniform and blanket as speculated though. The reality is that several EU member countries are looking at and putting in place far less disruptive regulations and if the UK wants to be as 'open for business' as the rest, more important than ever now we have to survive post Brexit, we will likely follow their lead.

Should have more detail on the true extent of quarantine rules sometime this coming week.

thegreenhell

15,375 posts

220 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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TheDeuce said:
Should have more detail on the true extent of quarantine rules sometime this coming week.
And here it is, just announced this afternoon, with no exemptions for F1 types.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52774854

df76

3,631 posts

279 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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thegreenhell said:
TheDeuce said:
Should have more detail on the true extent of quarantine rules sometime this coming week.
And here it is, just announced this afternoon, with no exemptions for F1 types.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52774854
And I quote "A full list of exemptions to the new requirements will be published in due course, the Home Office said." Plus it will be reviewed every three weeks.

TheDeuce

21,662 posts

67 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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df76 said:
thegreenhell said:
TheDeuce said:
Should have more detail on the true extent of quarantine rules sometime this coming week.
And here it is, just announced this afternoon, with no exemptions for F1 types.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52774854
And I quote "A full list of exemptions to the new requirements will be published in due course, the Home Office said." Plus it will be reviewed every three weeks.
Yea, they're still battling it out internally and almost certainly waiting to see what various other countries settle upon.

In the end it's highly likely we'll get something along the lines of the EU average level of exemptions and 'trusted countries' - otherwise the media will criticise the government for being too harsh and putting the UK out of business or being too lenient and dooming us all.. Best for Boris and pals just to talk about it a lot and then copy what most others are doing.. Which if you think about it has pretty much been how dealing with CV has been handled by most governments each step of the way.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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This will kill the idea of a British GP behind closed doors happening in July/August unless there is an exemption for F1 staff.

God knows why they announced this policy without having the exemption list published.

Looks like i'm on furlough until the scheme ends.

TheDeuce

21,662 posts

67 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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jsf said:
This will kill the idea of a British GP behind closed doors happening in July/August unless there is an exemption for F1 staff.

God knows why they announced this policy without having the exemption list published.

Looks like i'm on furlough until the scheme ends.
There probably wouldn't be a specific exemption for F1 anyway, just an exemption that allows people travelling for temporary work only so long as they have a two week rolling test history etc.. come from a trusted country blah blah. I'm sure they wouldn't task border force with super specific industry lists as it would just lead to arguments as many people don't fit neatly into specified single industries.

As for why they're making announcements without a list of exemptions, take your pick, many possible reasons for it. I maintain the most likely is that they know they want to make some exemptions but figuring out who and how without criticism is a tricky task.

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

84 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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It the bozos at silverstone had planted some crops several months back we could have had seasonal workers/f1 employees picking them alongside running the f1 event.
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Eric Mc

122,043 posts

266 months

TheDeuce

21,662 posts

67 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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Eric Mc said:
That's that for now then. On to Austria and fingers crossed for that..

Frustrating that the government seem to be buying another 3 weeks before review to make more useful (not just for F1) exemptions. Even if the situation were to change 3 weeks later there would be no time to meet the planned dates.

Edited by TheDeuce on Friday 22 May 20:12

longblackcoat

5,047 posts

184 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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TheDeuce said:
Eric Mc said:
That's that for now then. On to Austria and fingers crossed for that..

Frustrating that the government seem to be buying another 3 weeks before review to make more useful (not just for F1) exemptions. Even if the situation were to change 3 weeks later there would be no time to meet the planned dates.
As usual, the British government shows itself up to be utterly useless. Not that I’m especially bothered - F1 in any location is what I’m looking for. There are plenty of places on the European continent that will welcome the F1 circus.

df76

3,631 posts

279 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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longblackcoat said:
TheDeuce said:
Eric Mc said:
That's that for now then. On to Austria and fingers crossed for that..

Frustrating that the government seem to be buying another 3 weeks before review to make more useful (not just for F1) exemptions. Even if the situation were to change 3 weeks later there would be no time to meet the planned dates.
As usual, the British government shows itself up to be utterly useless. Not that I’m especially bothered - F1 in any location is what I’m looking for. There are plenty of places on the European continent that will welcome the F1 circus.
Very true, but does make me worry about the future of the F1 heartland in the UK.

TheDeuce

21,662 posts

67 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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df76 said:
longblackcoat said:
TheDeuce said:
Eric Mc said:
That's that for now then. On to Austria and fingers crossed for that..

Frustrating that the government seem to be buying another 3 weeks before review to make more useful (not just for F1) exemptions. Even if the situation were to change 3 weeks later there would be no time to meet the planned dates.
As usual, the British government shows itself up to be utterly useless. Not that I’m especially bothered - F1 in any location is what I’m looking for. There are plenty of places on the European continent that will welcome the F1 circus.
Very true, but does make me worry about the future of the F1 heartland in the UK.
I reckon it's here to stay for quite a while - a lot of tough to replace people are happy working in F1 and living in blighty.

Although it is pretty poor that F1 can't run 'at home' if that is the case. Yet can run in neighboring countries... Not exactly at our finest in the eyes of the world rolleyes

Chrisgr31

13,484 posts

256 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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Surely the reality is o one really knows what is happening yet. How long does Silverstone need to prepare for a race without a crowd? It was only yesterday they were talking about Hockenheim replacing Silverstone, now its Hingary.

Better to wait for official news I feel.

TheDeuce

21,662 posts

67 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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Chrisgr31 said:
Surely the reality is o one really knows what is happening yet. How long does Silverstone need to prepare for a race without a crowd? It was only yesterday they were talking about Hockenheim replacing Silverstone, now its Hingary.

Better to wait for official news I feel.
That was (What Eric posted) mostly official news based on direct quotes - and it doesn't sound great.

You're right in as much as it's still possible F1 could fit in to upcoming exclusions in the very near future, but for right now it doesn't look positive really.

I suppose Silverstone might be able to get ready very quickly. But without knowing if UK will be possible at all this year, F1 has to immediately start focusing on option b, option c and so on. This developing news takes the focus away from Silverstone sadly.

I too am overall happy for any F1 though.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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longblackcoat said:
TheDeuce said:
Eric Mc said:
That's that for now then. On to Austria and fingers crossed for that..

Frustrating that the government seem to be buying another 3 weeks before review to make more useful (not just for F1) exemptions. Even if the situation were to change 3 weeks later there would be no time to meet the planned dates.
As usual, the British government shows itself up to be utterly useless. Not that I’m especially bothered - F1 in any location is what I’m looking for. There are plenty of places on the European continent that will welcome the F1 circus.
To be fair F1 is pretty good at making itself look useless too. The latest budget/development rules are another mishmash of unnecessary over-complication and overreaction that will be far more damaging to the sport than what the government does. IMO.








TheDeuce

21,662 posts

67 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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REALIST123 said:
To be fair F1 is pretty good at making itself look useless too. The latest budget/development rules are another mishmash of unnecessary over-complication and overreaction that will be far more damaging to the sport than what the government does. IMO.
It is certainly unlikely that plans made in a desperate rush to keep the sport alive will serve it all that well in the longer term.. That's maybe worthy of it's own thread at some point. Right now, so much is happening and being changed in real time that it's hard to keep up let alone work out if it's all a good idea or not.

Remember when they decided to add a point for fastest lap? That alone was the source of about 6 months debate. This season there are changes being announced on the fly almost weekly!

Sandpit Steve

10,080 posts

75 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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Sadly it looks as if the Silverstone plans are off, certainly for the original July date. Daily Telegraph reports this morning suggesting that the request for exemption to the travel rules went all the way up to the PM’s desk.

Really don’t envy anyone having to make any decisions right now, no matter what happens they’ll be relentlessly criticised for it.

Hopefully a date later in the year can be agreed for Silverstone to host a race or two, and that in the meantime the thousands of people involved in the F1 circus manage to deal with the constantly-moving situation as they travel around. Good luck to all!

df76

3,631 posts

279 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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Sandpit Steve said:
Sadly it looks as if the Silverstone plans are off, certainly for the original July date. Daily Telegraph reports this morning suggesting that the request for exemption to the travel rules went all the way up to the PM’s desk.

Really don’t envy anyone having to make any decisions right now, no matter what happens they’ll be relentlessly criticised for it.

Hopefully a date later in the year can be agreed for Silverstone to host a race or two, and that in the meantime the thousands of people involved in the F1 circus manage to deal with the constantly-moving situation as they travel around. Good luck to all!
The BBC report is slightly more positive, but even if this is given the go ahead at the three week review time is running very short. Surely given the number of UK based teams it surely has significant repercussions for any events taking place?

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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The list is now online of the exemptions. Nothing for motorsport personnel so thats Silverstone dead for the original date.