F1 cancelled this year?

F1 cancelled this year?

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ChocolateFrog

25,097 posts

173 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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Europa1 said:
The potential linchpin in all of this is what happens in the UK, and the response of UK government - if there is a serious outbreak here and they start implementing travel bans, then the F! circus is effectively grounded. Ferrari, Alpha Tauri and Alpha Romeo may be able to travel, but Mercedes, Red Bull, Haas, Williams, Racing Point, McLaren, Renault...
Alpha Romeo?

redcard

OlonMusky

708 posts

54 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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coppice said:
Err - you don't follow current affairs then ? Best not to perhaps - very depressing - just stay focussed on tyre strategies and you'll be fine
You need to be specific, not sensationalist. Every year there's some st going down.

The Moose

22,840 posts

209 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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MitchT said:
Ironically the China is probably not the riskiest venue now!
Not that it really matters - no one ever goes to China anyway hehe

ChocolateFrog

25,097 posts

173 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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Piginapoke said:
I'm with you on this. The govt may have to make some hard decisions very soon- quarantining towns, closing schools, prioritising healthcare etc. By comparison, to stop major sporting events now, when this new virus has no symptoms for 14 days, seems an obvious thing to do.
I can't work out if you're being serious or not.

The government won't quarantine towns for a virus that kills less than 0.5% of fit and healthy people it infects.

How do you even think they'll go around quarantining towns?

Can everyone stop swallowing the media bullst, you're much more likely to be run over by a bus, now that is something I can get behind banning.

OlonMusky

708 posts

54 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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ChocolateFrog said:
Can everyone stop swallowing the media bullst, you're much more likely to be run over by a bus, now that is something I can get behind banning.
That's the thing, the sensationalism is more deadly than the virus itself. Usually when st like this happens, it tends to be a distraction from other more important things happening in the background. Masses love olympics.

ChocolateFrog

25,097 posts

173 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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OlonMusky said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Can everyone stop swallowing the media bullst, you're much more likely to be run over by a bus, now that is something I can get behind banning.
That's the thing, the sensationalism is more deadly than the virus itself. Usually when st like this happens, it tends to be a distraction from other more important things happening in the background.
Slow news weeks.

A couple of civil servants complaining they're being bullied. Greta still spouting st, Liverpool about to win the league for the first time in 30 years, much else happening? Doesn't feel like it.

Maybe it's a play to deliberately devalue the stock markets, £200bn off, £200bn back on, someone's making an absolute killing.

ChocolateFrog

25,097 posts

173 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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If it starts killing 10's of thousands in this country I might start getting interested, so far the figure is ZERO, like my concern.

We're not China or a macro petri dish that is a cruise ship

Teddy Lop

8,294 posts

67 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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TheDeuce said:
F1 last year was essentially my respite from Brexit being all that was debated on the outside world. And now the current global media story, which is by its nature depressing, is going to take F1 itself away. Great.
brexit, another event that the news catastrophised beyond belief.

I switched off the news on 15th June 2017 and still haven't worked out a news source to follow.


Oh, WSBK season kicked off on Phillip island, 2 races still to go though so time yet for the corozombierapekill lurghi to kick off.

TheDeuce

21,450 posts

66 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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Teddy Lop said:
brexit, another event that the news catastrophised beyond belief.

I switched off the news on 15th June 2017 and still haven't worked out a news source to follow.


Oh, WSBK season kicked off on Phillip island, 2 races still to go though so time yet for the corozombierapekill lurghi to kick off.
I cut out the news too. I actively avoid it. These days I check the FT website a couple of times a week, they just give actual news and facts... No sensationalism or celebrity gossip, which is half of what 'the news' seems to be these days.

I'm far happier.

poo at Paul's

14,142 posts

175 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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Teddy Lop said:
brexit, another event that the news catastrophised beyond belief.

I switched off the news on 15th June 2017 and still haven't worked out a news source to follow.


Oh, WSBK season kicked off on Phillip island, 2 races still to go though so time yet for the corozombierapekill lurghi to kick off.
Very much at risk, too. Pirelli supply the tyres, Ducati based in the hot spot zone...
The problem will certainly be the back to back races for F1, MotoGP and SBK. There will be no time to disinfect / quarantine people and or kit, the logistics are very much JIT as it is.
Sadly, it is an almost certainly they will be significantly disrupted, and probably curtailed or cancelled at some point.

Sad

defblade

7,427 posts

213 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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I'm coming to the conclusion that taking any "action" about this virus is, basically, pointless. The asymptomatic-but-contagious period is so long, you'll already have given it to loads of people before you know you've got it, so all the current vague attempts to control it will simply fail.

If anything, we should have National (or even World) Catch Corona Day... if we can all get together with some infected people and all get exposed at once, then we could theoretically wipe out the virus in the human population as everyone* will be immune already - like we have (nearly) done with small pox and polio through vaccination programs.







*that survive. Which may be the sticking point on making this plan publicly acceptable.

808 Estate

2,104 posts

91 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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TheDeuce said:
If it's not a complete and proper season, I guess Lewis can't beat MS either.
One race
Double length
Remove fuel restrictors
All the points
st or bust

rallycross

12,778 posts

237 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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I think it could happen based on what’s going on in Italy and China right now, a mate lives near Milan and hearing first hand from him about both (he has a factory in China but lives in Italy) .

I think we will soon see the same in U.K. cities with previously never seen shut downs.

rallycross

12,778 posts

237 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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ChocolateFrog said:
If it starts killing 10's of thousands in this country I might start getting interested, so far the figure is ZERO, like my concern.

We're not China or a macro petri dish that is a cruise ship
You really haven’t got a clue have you?


Jasandjules

69,855 posts

229 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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rallycross said:
You really haven’t got a clue have you?
Enlighten us

hunter 66

3,902 posts

220 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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May as well just make Lewis champ again ....... and keep cars fresh for the 2021 season

Piginapoke

4,752 posts

185 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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Jasandjules said:
rallycross said:
You really haven’t got a clue have you?
Enlighten us
For starters, Spanish Flu infected 25% of the worlds population in 1918/20. Assuming Covid19 is the same (early indications are that it’s more infectious), thats around 15m people in the UK. 20% would get really sick, so that’s about 3 million people. Of those, 20% would die, so call that 600,000 people.

hardly worth worrying about?

rallycross

12,778 posts

237 months

Saturday 29th February 2020
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Piginapoke said:
Jasandjules said:
rallycross said:
You really haven’t got a clue have you?
Enlighten us
For starters, Spanish Flu infected 25% of the worlds population in 1918/20. Assuming Covid19 is the same (early indications are that it’s more infectious), thats around 15m people in the UK. 20% would get really sick, so that’s about 3 million people. Of those, 20% would die, so call that 600,000 people.

hardly worth worrying about?
I doubt we get any accurate news / TV / press info out of China, you can’t use google or twitter once you are in there, what we see is controlled by the state.

I’m in the U.K. so I only know the same as the rest of us, but from someone I know who lives in N Italy and speaks with his factory in China 5 days a week, some of things I’ve heard include:

China

The workers were supposed to go back to the factories at the end of Chineese new year, Feb 8th - but the government said wait plus 2 weeks (no pay) so this week commencing 25th should see things back to normal.

His factory is in Wuhaan with over 3,000 employees, this week only 20 people turned up for work. They work on 1/2/4 week shifts and get bus travel in to the factories travelling up
To 24 hour’s to get there - and stay there for. 7 to 28 days. No one turned up. His company now has a 2 month delay to all deliveries and has had to notify clients that there will be a’2 Month delay (min).

His daily call with the factory team leader in China is a Skype call, all the family seem to get involved, the sister of the main factory contact is a nurse in Wuhaan, she said on one of these calls the death rate is 13% not <2% which is whats reported here on the news.

Italy

The Lombardy region (north Italy ) this week the government told all cafe owners, sports clubs Etc to close.
Milan is like Italy’s Manchester but it’s now like a ghost town, people told not to travel in to work and people queuing up for hours at supermarkets with face masks on -in Milan!

Also it depends on your company policies, US companies are saying if you chose to travel to Italy don’t come back to the U.K. office and if you go to Italy for a holiday you have to self quarantine for 3 weeks with no pay.

I think we are only a week or two behind Italy and will soon see this in the U.K...

RemarkLima

2,370 posts

212 months

Sunday 1st March 2020
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As Rallycross says, China is still shutdown... Chinese car manufacturering plants should have opened 2 weeks ago, and they are now say 14th March! It's a huge impact and wouldn't be a decision taken lightly.

And this is in China!! They can hardly be called snowflakes with all the human rights abuse, draconian laws and police state...

Interesting though, if the F1 year was cancelled, would they delay the 2021 regs a year and let everyone race this years cars??

Edited by RemarkLima on Sunday 1st March 08:21

thegreenhell

15,249 posts

219 months

Sunday 1st March 2020
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I don't think the whole season will be cancelled, but I could foresee a predominantly European F1 season, with most of the flyaways cancelled.