F1 cancelled this year?
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TheDeuce said:
Deesee said:
Nice discussion up there @duece & @jsf.. top posting, good reading.
It's fascinating to look deeply at the PU component burn rate, and then consider how soundly McLaren managed to beat Renault in spite of the difference. It shows how far the McLaren car is ahead of Renault. And that is very poignant going in to this season, as the Renault car is one of the least evolved.Deesee said:
TheDeuce said:
Deesee said:
Nice discussion up there @duece & @jsf.. top posting, good reading.
It's fascinating to look deeply at the PU component burn rate, and then consider how soundly McLaren managed to beat Renault in spite of the difference. It shows how far the McLaren car is ahead of Renault. And that is very poignant going in to this season, as the Renault car is one of the least evolved.
It does however dismay me slightly. Listening to Stefan Johansson describe the 80's turbo years and witnessing them at Brands Hatch, the brutal equation of extreme excess power over grip with limited aero - with manual gear changes so short that any slight miss meant a loss of place - I can't help thinking F1 has completely lost the plot.
Leithen said:
Very interesting stuff - thank you.
It does however dismay me slightly. Listening to Stefan Johansson describe the 80's turbo years and witnessing them at Brands Hatch, the brutal equation of extreme excess power over grip with limited aero - with manual gear changes so short that any slight miss meant a loss of place - I can't help thinking F1 has completely lost the plot.
Depends on what you think the plot is. If F1 was all about entertainment for the masses then you'd be spot on. If it's the pinnacle of motorsport engineering then you'd be way off.It does however dismay me slightly. Listening to Stefan Johansson describe the 80's turbo years and witnessing them at Brands Hatch, the brutal equation of extreme excess power over grip with limited aero - with manual gear changes so short that any slight miss meant a loss of place - I can't help thinking F1 has completely lost the plot.
My personal view is somewhere between the two but a long way towards being entertainment. I no longer watch F1.
Kraken said:
Depends on what you think the plot is. If F1 was all about entertainment for the masses then you'd be spot on. If it's the pinnacle of motorsport engineering then you'd be way off.
My personal view is somewhere between the two but a long way towards being entertainment. I no longer watch F1.
They're trying more than ever to make it 'entertainment' now (american influence..) and there is commercial mileage in that. There will likely come a time at which the cash cow has been milked for entertainments sake to the point that the sport doesn't really make very much sense anymore - after all, F1 was only popular in the first place as an engineering showcase and innovation hotbed. The more the sport is exploited for the casual masses, the less of what makes it unique remains.My personal view is somewhere between the two but a long way towards being entertainment. I no longer watch F1.
I'd hold tight for a while, maybe in 5-10 years popularity will wane enough to raise some questions. But for now, we're not that far off the new regs/era and that could be good. It's also not just engineering and innovation that fuels this sport, it's the drivers too. If the new regs result in better racing, then the world class drivers giving good action will carry the sport.
Although personally I dislike the idea of standardised parts removing team ingenuity, but I get the reasoning.. It's commercial, the people making such judgement calls are no fools.
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