The Official F1 2021 silly season *contains speculation*
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liner33 said:
Yes you are right there is no way that Damon would know anyone in F1 at a high level.
Whilst gossip is gossip I don't think DH would have tweeted such if he wasn't pretty certain of his facts .
He doesn't tweet a huge amount of F1 gossip to be fair, so on the odd occasion he does it will have come from somewhere reliable.Whilst gossip is gossip I don't think DH would have tweeted such if he wasn't pretty certain of his facts .
kiseca said:
MustangGT said:
kiseca said:
liner33 said:
kiseca said:
I agree. Hamilton has never done anything to suggest he doesn't want competition in the other car. Everything he's said says he enjoys the competition, and I'm pretty sure I've read before on PH that the team have said he has no veto on what drivers they partner him with.
Now there will be someone who will reply "of course he will say that..".... no he won't. Maybe, of course some of us would say that in his position, but we aren't hamilton, don't know Hamilton, and we don't know his contract. The little information we do have says he doesn't care who his team mate is. I've never seen anything but speculation suggesting that's not true. I've never seen any reference back to any event, action of contract signing that suggests Hamilton has influenced who his team mate is in a way that gives him an advantage. I've only ever seen Toto mentioning he'd like to avoid the management complications of another Rosberg / Hamilton clash, because it was dividing the team. Nothing in there to suggest that Hamilton was the one with the problem.
It was reported that he did want to veto team mate during last years contract negotiations, (Damon Hill Tweeted such) , said contract was meant to be for two years , yet was only one . I wonder what the sticking point might be ? Now there will be someone who will reply "of course he will say that..".... no he won't. Maybe, of course some of us would say that in his position, but we aren't hamilton, don't know Hamilton, and we don't know his contract. The little information we do have says he doesn't care who his team mate is. I've never seen anything but speculation suggesting that's not true. I've never seen any reference back to any event, action of contract signing that suggests Hamilton has influenced who his team mate is in a way that gives him an advantage. I've only ever seen Toto mentioning he'd like to avoid the management complications of another Rosberg / Hamilton clash, because it was dividing the team. Nothing in there to suggest that Hamilton was the one with the problem.
I agree with Kiseca's original comment, Lewis has always said he wants competition and does not care who is in the other seat.
In addition, I genuinely do think he didn't care, particularly around 2016 when replacing Rosberg. However, for 2020, he hasn't said any different but this year, with a possible title number 8 on the cards, he may well have found the idea of using his influence to remove a challenge from his team mate more appealing, and retrospectively knowing he's got a tough challenge from Max, he's probably quite happy he's not in a three way battle.
Overall, I still think he still cares less than most champions to a team mate challenge, but I still think he won't try block George from the team in 2022.
liner33 said:
Yes you are right there is no way that Damon would know anyone in F1 at a high level.
Whilst gossip is gossip I don't think DH would have tweeted such if he wasn't pretty certain of his facts .
Unless DH is privy to the contract negotiations anything he may tweet is purely hearsay with no foundation to support it.Whilst gossip is gossip I don't think DH would have tweeted such if he wasn't pretty certain of his facts .
Toto says openly that the team wants to avoid another Hamilton Rosberg situation. The team wants two drivers who are not at war with one another.
Their preferred method is to pick a pair of drivers who, without management, will tend to be out of one another’s way.
Hamilton is still there. This is his ninth season with the team. Hamilton is not going to be the Bottas.
Hamilton says he doesn’t care who his team mate is and doesn’t have any influence on who gets the nod but I don’t believe him on either count. You don’t demand a salary of 40 million plus in the naive belief that the team might pay the same again to the other driver. Hamilton has a superstar presence in the team.
Hamilton says he wants a fight for the championship but in my opinion he wants that fight to come from outside of his own team.
Their preferred method is to pick a pair of drivers who, without management, will tend to be out of one another’s way.
Hamilton is still there. This is his ninth season with the team. Hamilton is not going to be the Bottas.
Hamilton says he doesn’t care who his team mate is and doesn’t have any influence on who gets the nod but I don’t believe him on either count. You don’t demand a salary of 40 million plus in the naive belief that the team might pay the same again to the other driver. Hamilton has a superstar presence in the team.
Hamilton says he wants a fight for the championship but in my opinion he wants that fight to come from outside of his own team.
Does anyone remember that tv piece that showed LH going into a back-room after a race where he won with very difficult tyres (I think) ie had to make them last cos the strategy was no good. Team cocked up. Maybe that one where he got flat front tyre? Might have been silverstone can't remember. But the thing I remember is it seemed slightly awkward because although LH was joking it was a bit, like all the people in there (ie techies) seemed a bit uncomfortable - LH in a sense made it like that, that "you guys left me hanging type of thing". But on the surface it was meant to be jovial / a celebration of the fact he overcome the problem.
I'd love to watch it again if anyone can connect what I'm saying to a youtube vid of it!
I'd love to watch it again if anyone can connect what I'm saying to a youtube vid of it!
Williams has announced the departure of its Formula 1 team principal Simon Roberts
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/williams-f1-tea...
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/williams-f1-tea...
CoolHands said:
Does anyone remember that tv piece that showed LH going into a back-room after a race where he won with very difficult tyres (I think) ie had to make them last cos the strategy was no good. Team cocked up. Maybe that one where he got flat front tyre? Might have been silverstone can't remember. But the thing I remember is it seemed slightly awkward because although LH was joking it was a bit, like all the people in there (ie techies) seemed a bit uncomfortable - LH in a sense made it like that, that "you guys left me hanging type of thing". But on the surface it was meant to be jovial / a celebration of the fact he overcome the problem.
I'd love to watch it again if anyone can connect what I'm saying to a youtube vid of it!
Sounds like Monaco 2019I'd love to watch it again if anyone can connect what I'm saying to a youtube vid of it!
MartG said:
Williams has announced the departure of its Formula 1 team principal Simon Roberts
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/williams-f1-tea...
He didn’t last long! Pushed, or jumped? https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/williams-f1-tea...
Sandpit Steve said:
MartG said:
Williams has announced the departure of its Formula 1 team principal Simon Roberts
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/williams-f1-tea...
He didn’t last long! Pushed, or jumped? https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/williams-f1-tea...
aston80 said:
Sandpit Steve said:
MartG said:
Williams has announced the departure of its Formula 1 team principal Simon Roberts
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/williams-f1-tea...
He didn’t last long! Pushed, or jumped? https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/williams-f1-tea...
I think the new owners want a clean sweep, which is frankly fair enough - they own it, it's their choice! Obviously the reality of running a 700 strong outfit is that you can't replace key people overnight.
Likely a few HOD's will depart too one way or another I expect.
TheDeuce said:
aston80 said:
Sandpit Steve said:
MartG said:
Williams has announced the departure of its Formula 1 team principal Simon Roberts
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/williams-f1-tea...
He didn’t last long! Pushed, or jumped? https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/williams-f1-tea...
I think the new owners want a clean sweep, which is frankly fair enough - they own it, it's their choice! Obviously the reality of running a 700 strong outfit is that you can't replace key people overnight.
Likely a few HOD's will depart too one way or another I expect.
Leithen said:
Crumbs, just when he was starting to look like someone who wanted to redeem himself.Idiot
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