Black Mercedes.
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DOCG said:
HustleRussell said:
Yes, angle.
I understand your question but to give an appropriate response I want to know what you're driving at.
I could assume but personally I don't like it when people do that
Am I to assume that your view is that engineering has never been overtly or deliberately exclusive? Could I extend that to conclude that you think that the situation as it is, is fine?
I am asking in what way it was/is exclusive. And no, your assumptions are wholly inaccurate, I am simply wanting to learn more. I understand your question but to give an appropriate response I want to know what you're driving at.
I could assume but personally I don't like it when people do that
Am I to assume that your view is that engineering has never been overtly or deliberately exclusive? Could I extend that to conclude that you think that the situation as it is, is fine?
Why is that?
I have seen a number of initiatives which attempt to address the overwhelming male majority.
The initiatives launched by Hamilton attempt to investigate the first part.
Problem with all of this is you can’t change history. It is what it is. Some good some bad.
As Humans we have done some terrible things to each other in the past. Things against race, religion, sexual orientation, or even just using the wrong hand to write with.
The list is endless but how long do we keep wanting to wallow in all these injustices ?
Society has made huge improvements in equality and I think will continue to do so.
We must know what happened in the past and learn from it in the future. Jumping on the virtue signalling band wagon starts to become divisive and makes the situation worse.
As Humans we have done some terrible things to each other in the past. Things against race, religion, sexual orientation, or even just using the wrong hand to write with.
The list is endless but how long do we keep wanting to wallow in all these injustices ?
Society has made huge improvements in equality and I think will continue to do so.
We must know what happened in the past and learn from it in the future. Jumping on the virtue signalling band wagon starts to become divisive and makes the situation worse.
Mercedes are a massive capitalist concern with a strong understanding of the cost benefits of marketing. This will have had little cost (certainly a drop in their overall F1 budget) and gets them loads of almost entirely positive coverage.
That's it ... the whole story ... but well done all on getting a few pages of moaning out of it
That's it ... the whole story ... but well done all on getting a few pages of moaning out of it
Exige77 said:
It’s a slippery slope. Once you get involved in politics you start to get judged.
It’s not a good thing when you want to appeal to as many customers as possible.
You must have been shaking your head when you saw this exchange, then - Yorkshire Tea and PG Tips wilfully throwing away the racist dollar, the fools.It’s not a good thing when you want to appeal to as many customers as possible.
otolith said:
Exige77 said:
It’s a slippery slope. Once you get involved in politics you start to get judged.
It’s not a good thing when you want to appeal to as many customers as possible.
You must have been shaking your head when you saw this exchange, then - Yorkshire Tea and PG Tips wilfully throwing away the racist dollar, the fools.It’s not a good thing when you want to appeal to as many customers as possible.
Exige77 said:
They both only want customers that share their ideals ?
What happens when the BLM movements falls out of favour ?
It’s a slippery slope best not entered by big business.
Nope, they have principles and are willing to sacrifice the custom of racists in order to stand by them. Good on them.What happens when the BLM movements falls out of favour ?
It’s a slippery slope best not entered by big business.
otolith said:
Exige77 said:
They both only want customers that share their ideals ?
What happens when the BLM movements falls out of favour ?
It’s a slippery slope best not entered by big business.
Nope, they have principles and are willing to sacrifice the custom of racists in order to stand by them. Good on them.What happens when the BLM movements falls out of favour ?
It’s a slippery slope best not entered by big business.
Exige77 said:
otolith said:
Exige77 said:
They both only want customers that share their ideals ?
What happens when the BLM movements falls out of favour ?
It’s a slippery slope best not entered by big business.
Nope, they have principles and are willing to sacrifice the custom of racists in order to stand by them. Good on them.What happens when the BLM movements falls out of favour ?
It’s a slippery slope best not entered by big business.
Why is promoting equality of opportunity a bad thing?
PanicBuyingBogRoll said:
Exige77 said:
otolith said:
Exige77 said:
They both only want customers that share their ideals ?
What happens when the BLM movements falls out of favour ?
It’s a slippery slope best not entered by big business.
Nope, they have principles and are willing to sacrifice the custom of racists in order to stand by them. Good on them.What happens when the BLM movements falls out of favour ?
It’s a slippery slope best not entered by big business.
Why is promoting equality of opportunity a bad thing?
Absolutely nothing wrong with promoting “Equality” but that’s not what is being done.
They (Businesses) are supporting a divisive movement. Many other businesses are waking up to this and distancing themselves from BLM.
Shall we get back to Mercedes now ?
Exige77 said:
otolith said:
Exige77 said:
They both only want customers that share their ideals ?
What happens when the BLM movements falls out of favour ?
It’s a slippery slope best not entered by big business.
Nope, they have principles and are willing to sacrifice the custom of racists in order to stand by them. Good on them.What happens when the BLM movements falls out of favour ?
It’s a slippery slope best not entered by big business.
Exige77 said:
PanicBuyingBogRoll said:
Exige77 said:
otolith said:
Exige77 said:
They both only want customers that share their ideals ?
What happens when the BLM movements falls out of favour ?
It’s a slippery slope best not entered by big business.
Nope, they have principles and are willing to sacrifice the custom of racists in order to stand by them. Good on them.What happens when the BLM movements falls out of favour ?
It’s a slippery slope best not entered by big business.
Why is promoting equality of opportunity a bad thing?
Absolutely nothing wrong with promoting “Equality” but that’s not what is being done.
They (Businesses) are supporting a divisive movement. Many other businesses are waking up to this and distancing themselves from BLM.
Shall we get back to Mercedes now ?
As far as I can see, Mercedes have said they would like to see an end to racism, will look at how they can become a more diverse organisation and ensure they provide the same opportunity to everyone. And are using their car to promote this in one of the biggest advertising areans there is. Can't see how you can twist it into being a negative thing.
Apologies if I've missed it somwhere.
LucyP said:
But it is elementary business practice not to support the smashing of the system that gave you the opportunity to start the business and remain in business.
I'm pretty sure Mercedes know how to run their business. And I would also imagine they have worked out that doing this will probably increase their sales.
Norris is now going to have End Racism on his car, along with a pride rainbow.
Thats another team the gammons won't be able to support.
PanicBuyingBogRoll said:
LucyP said:
But it is elementary business practice not to support the smashing of the system that gave you the opportunity to start the business and remain in business.
I'm pretty sure Mercedes know how to run their business. And I would also imagine they have worked out that doing this will probably increase their sales.
Norris is now going to have End Racism on his car, along with a pride rainbow.
Thats another team the gammons won't be able to support.
Daimler Benz financial performances has not been good these last few years so not sure your assertion that they know how to run their business is correct.
Promoting “End Racism” can only be seen as a good thing. Who can argue about that ? Maybe a few real extremists but extremism of all sorts should probably be best ignored.
I can’t see how your lead driver promoting the “BLM” movement and then painting your cars black as being the same thing as promoting an end to racism.
I think Mercedes have dropped the ball on this one. Time will tell.
Exige77 said:
PanicBuyingBogRoll said:
LucyP said:
But it is elementary business practice not to support the smashing of the system that gave you the opportunity to start the business and remain in business.
I'm pretty sure Mercedes know how to run their business. And I would also imagine they have worked out that doing this will probably increase their sales.
Norris is now going to have End Racism on his car, along with a pride rainbow.
Thats another team the gammons won't be able to support.
Daimler Benz financial performances has not been good these last few years so not sure your assertion that they know how to run their business is correct.
Promoting “End Racism” can only be seen as a good thing. Who can argue about that ? Maybe a few real extremists but extremism of all sorts should probably be best ignored.
I can’t see how your lead driver promoting the “BLM” movement and then painting your cars black as being the same thing as promoting an end to racism.
I think Mercedes have dropped the ball on this one. Time will tell.
rscott said:
Exige77 said:
PanicBuyingBogRoll said:
LucyP said:
But it is elementary business practice not to support the smashing of the system that gave you the opportunity to start the business and remain in business.
I'm pretty sure Mercedes know how to run their business. And I would also imagine they have worked out that doing this will probably increase their sales.
Norris is now going to have End Racism on his car, along with a pride rainbow.
Thats another team the gammons won't be able to support.
Daimler Benz financial performances has not been good these last few years so not sure your assertion that they know how to run their business is correct.
Promoting “End Racism” can only be seen as a good thing. Who can argue about that ? Maybe a few real extremists but extremism of all sorts should probably be best ignored.
I can’t see how your lead driver promoting the “BLM” movement and then painting your cars black as being the same thing as promoting an end to racism.
I think Mercedes have dropped the ball on this one. Time will tell.
I fail to see how painting the car black is such an issue.
Lewis, like several celebrities, has supported BLM but Mercedes clearly have not as BLM is not on the car anywhere.
They've changed the colour of the car to increase awareness, get people talking about ways to end racism and also look at their own internal behaviour.
I can't see why this is a bad thing?
Muzzer79 said:
This
I fail to see how painting the car black is such an issue.
Lewis, like several celebrities, has supported BLM but Mercedes clearly have not as BLM is not on the car anywhere.
They've changed the colour of the car to increase awareness, get people talking about ways to end racism and also look at their own internal behaviour.
I can't see why this is a bad thing?
That’s the beauty of an open discussion .I fail to see how painting the car black is such an issue.
Lewis, like several celebrities, has supported BLM but Mercedes clearly have not as BLM is not on the car anywhere.
They've changed the colour of the car to increase awareness, get people talking about ways to end racism and also look at their own internal behaviour.
I can't see why this is a bad thing?
Some on here’s natural response is to resort to aggression when when something doesn’t fit their narrative.
As a long standing supporter of Lewis (since Rye House cadet days) I will continue to wish him every success and hope he beats MS record and then some but just wish he would stick to racing.
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