Black Mercedes.

Black Mercedes.

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PanicBuyingBogRoll

669 posts

17 months

Tuesday 30th June
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LucyP said:
But it is elementary business practice not to support the smashing of the system that gave you the opportunity to start the business and remain in business.
I'm pretty sure Mercedes know how to run their business.

And I would also imagine they have worked out that doing this will probably increase their sales.

Norris is now going to have End Racism on his car, along with a pride rainbow.

Thats another team the gammons won't be able to support.

Exige77

5,184 posts

146 months

Tuesday 30th June
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PanicBuyingBogRoll said:
LucyP said:
But it is elementary business practice not to support the smashing of the system that gave you the opportunity to start the business and remain in business.
I'm pretty sure Mercedes know how to run their business.

And I would also imagine they have worked out that doing this will probably increase their sales.

Norris is now going to have End Racism on his car, along with a pride rainbow.

Thats another team the gammons won't be able to support.
Anyone who doesn’t agree with you is a gammon now ?

Daimler Benz financial performances has not been good these last few years so not sure your assertion that they know how to run their business is correct.

Promoting “End Racism” can only be seen as a good thing. Who can argue about that ? Maybe a few real extremists but extremism of all sorts should probably be best ignored.

I can’t see how your lead driver promoting the “BLM” movement and then painting your cars black as being the same thing as promoting an end to racism.

I think Mercedes have dropped the ball on this one. Time will tell.

rscott

10,338 posts

146 months

Tuesday 30th June
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Exige77 said:
PanicBuyingBogRoll said:
LucyP said:
But it is elementary business practice not to support the smashing of the system that gave you the opportunity to start the business and remain in business.
I'm pretty sure Mercedes know how to run their business.

And I would also imagine they have worked out that doing this will probably increase their sales.

Norris is now going to have End Racism on his car, along with a pride rainbow.

Thats another team the gammons won't be able to support.
Anyone who doesn’t agree with you is a gammon now ?

Daimler Benz financial performances has not been good these last few years so not sure your assertion that they know how to run their business is correct.

Promoting “End Racism” can only be seen as a good thing. Who can argue about that ? Maybe a few real extremists but extremism of all sorts should probably be best ignored.

I can’t see how your lead driver promoting the “BLM” movement and then painting your cars black as being the same thing as promoting an end to racism.

I think Mercedes have dropped the ball on this one. Time will tell.
Mercedes haven't said they support BLM, only that the BLM movement has highlighted what they see as inequalities in the workforce and areas they could look to improve . Also they they can work to reduce racism , which, given the history of abuse their main driver has received at some tracks, seems to be a sensible step too.

SRT77

575 posts

173 months

Tuesday 30th June
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Is the new colour road relevant.

Muzzer79

3,398 posts

142 months

Tuesday 30th June
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rscott said:
Exige77 said:
PanicBuyingBogRoll said:
LucyP said:
But it is elementary business practice not to support the smashing of the system that gave you the opportunity to start the business and remain in business.
I'm pretty sure Mercedes know how to run their business.

And I would also imagine they have worked out that doing this will probably increase their sales.

Norris is now going to have End Racism on his car, along with a pride rainbow.

Thats another team the gammons won't be able to support.
Anyone who doesn’t agree with you is a gammon now ?

Daimler Benz financial performances has not been good these last few years so not sure your assertion that they know how to run their business is correct.

Promoting “End Racism” can only be seen as a good thing. Who can argue about that ? Maybe a few real extremists but extremism of all sorts should probably be best ignored.

I can’t see how your lead driver promoting the “BLM” movement and then painting your cars black as being the same thing as promoting an end to racism.

I think Mercedes have dropped the ball on this one. Time will tell.
Mercedes haven't said they support BLM, only that the BLM movement has highlighted what they see as inequalities in the workforce and areas they could look to improve . Also they they can work to reduce racism , which, given the history of abuse their main driver has received at some tracks, seems to be a sensible step too.
This

I fail to see how painting the car black is such an issue.

Lewis, like several celebrities, has supported BLM but Mercedes clearly have not as BLM is not on the car anywhere.

They've changed the colour of the car to increase awareness, get people talking about ways to end racism and also look at their own internal behaviour.

I can't see why this is a bad thing?

jsf

17,080 posts

191 months

Tuesday 30th June
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SRT77 said:
Is the new colour road relevant.
I've been driving a black car for the last 11 years, so i'm well ahead of the curve, it even has factory privacy glass installed and black wheels.

Exige77

5,184 posts

146 months

Tuesday 30th June
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Muzzer79 said:
This

I fail to see how painting the car black is such an issue.

Lewis, like several celebrities, has supported BLM but Mercedes clearly have not as BLM is not on the car anywhere.

They've changed the colour of the car to increase awareness, get people talking about ways to end racism and also look at their own internal behaviour.

I can't see why this is a bad thing?
That’s the beauty of an open discussion smile.

Some on here’s natural response is to resort to aggression when when something doesn’t fit their narrative.

As a long standing supporter of Lewis (since Rye House cadet days) I will continue to wish him every success and hope he beats MS record and then some but just wish he would stick to racing.

rovermorris999

4,671 posts

144 months

Tuesday 30th June
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jsf said:
I've been driving a black car for the last 11 years, so i'm well ahead of the curve, it even has factory privacy glass installed and black wheels.
Good man. I only wear black socks.

LucyP

375 posts

14 months

Tuesday 30th June
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Muzzer79 said:
This

I fail to see how painting the car black is such an issue.

Lewis, like several celebrities, has supported BLM but Mercedes clearly have not as BLM is not on the car anywhere.

They've changed the colour of the car to increase awareness, get people talking about ways to end racism and also look at their own internal behaviour.

I can't see why this is a bad thing?
Are you really so naive? The team is known as the "Silver Arrows". Was there any mention pre-season of the car being black? Was it black in Australia? Do you really think that it would be black but for the very BLM protests? It's black in support of BLM and they have caved in to that nonsense like many other people and organisations, just as it is backfiring as people realise that it is really about Marxism and smashing the system and not about the lives of BAME people. Why would anyone sane want to be associated with a Marxist, smash the system movement?


jsf

17,080 posts

191 months

Tuesday 30th June
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LucyP said:
Are you really so naive? The team is known as the "Silver Arrows". Was there any mention pre-season of the car being black? Was it black in Australia? Do you really think that it would be black but for the very BLM protests? It's black in support of BLM and they have caved in to that nonsense like many other people and organisations, just as it is backfiring as people realise that it is really about Marxism and smashing the system and not about the lives of BAME people. Why would anyone sane want to be associated with a Marxist, smash the system movement?
The fastest production Mercedes are the AMG Black edition cars.

Exige77

5,184 posts

146 months

Tuesday 30th June
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jsf said:
LucyP said:
Are you really so naive? The team is known as the "Silver Arrows". Was there any mention pre-season of the car being black? Was it black in Australia? Do you really think that it would be black but for the very BLM protests? It's black in support of BLM and they have caved in to that nonsense like many other people and organisations, just as it is backfiring as people realise that it is really about Marxism and smashing the system and not about the lives of BAME people. Why would anyone sane want to be associated with a Marxist, smash the system movement?
The fastest production Mercedes are the AMG Black edition cars.
I think that’s just a coincidence.

It’s nothing to do with Black edition road cars but it might become if the association with BLM movement back fires on them.

Dark85

363 posts

103 months

Tuesday 30th June
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sparta6 said:
I agree.
And yet Lewis is yet to convey how he thinks things could improve in Britain.
Every successful person I know has arrived through merit and hard work, regardless of ethnicity.

I don't know of another country as open and diverse.

Lewis himself is a prime example of that.
How can you possibly know that?

LucyP

375 posts

14 months

Tuesday 30th June
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Dark85 said:
How can you possibly know that?
Well how else did he manage to become such a successful sportsman then? Luck? Fairies? He's Jesus?

IforB

7,101 posts

184 months

Tuesday 30th June
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LucyP said:
Muzzer79 said:
This

I fail to see how painting the car black is such an issue.

Lewis, like several celebrities, has supported BLM but Mercedes clearly have not as BLM is not on the car anywhere.

They've changed the colour of the car to increase awareness, get people talking about ways to end racism and also look at their own internal behaviour.

I can't see why this is a bad thing?
Are you really so naive? The team is known as the "Silver Arrows". Was there any mention pre-season of the car being black? Was it black in Australia? Do you really think that it would be black but for the very BLM protests? It's black in support of BLM and they have caved in to that nonsense like many other people and organisations, just as it is backfiring as people realise that it is really about Marxism and smashing the system and not about the lives of BAME people. Why would anyone sane want to be associated with a Marxist, smash the system movement?
Are you anti-BLM or just anti-the anti-racism thing?

Asking for a friend.

Dark85

363 posts

103 months

Tuesday 30th June
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LucyP said:
Well how else did he manage to become such a successful sportsman then? Luck? Fairies? He's Jesus?
My post refers to the part of his that is in bold...Sparta6 claims that every successful person they know arrived through hard work and merit and ethnicity did not play a part. How can anyone possbily know that?

Oh and yes, luck did undoubtably play a part in Lewis' success just like it does in everybody elses.

Edited by Dark85 on Tuesday 30th June 17:29

MiniMan64

12,501 posts

145 months

Tuesday 30th June
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I just blocked the NPE forum and now it’s seeping into the F1 threads!

It’s a new livery that we all agree looks nice. Good thing.

Mercedes want to make sure that going forward they are giving more opportunities to poorly represented sections of society. Good thing.

They haven’t plastered BLM sponsorship all over the car. Maybe a good thing.

What’s there to argue about? Apart from the unsaid opinions of some posters that’s better left on the more questionable threads in NPE.

Exige77

5,184 posts

146 months

Tuesday 30th June
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MiniMan64 said:
I just blocked the NPE forum and now it’s seeping into the F1 threads!

It’s a new livery that we all agree looks nice. Good thing.

Mercedes want to make sure that going forward they are giving more opportunities to poorly represented sections of society. Good thing.

They haven’t plastered BLM sponsorship all over the car. Maybe a good thing.

What’s there to argue about? Apart from the unsaid opinions of some posters that’s better left on the more questionable threads in NPE.
What are the unsaid opinions of some posters that are better left on the more questionable threads in NPE ?

It would be good to understand what you have deduced.

df76

2,383 posts

233 months

Tuesday 30th June
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Dark85 said:
LucyP said:
Well how else did he manage to become such a successful sportsman then? Luck? Fairies? He's Jesus?
My post refers to the part of his that is in bold...Sparta6 claims that every successful person they know arrived through hard work and merit and ethnicity did not play a part. How can anyone possbily know that?

Oh and yes, luck did undoubtably play a part in Lewis' success just like it does in everybody elses.

Edited by Dark85 on Tuesday 30th June 17:29
Tbh, it seemed pretty obvious to me. It’s not about Lewis. It’s about how many other drivers in top line motorsport are black or another ethnic group, and how many of those working in the teams come from a minority group. Mercedes has acknowledged that it’s unacceptable, and fair play to them.

HustleRussell

17,898 posts

115 months

Tuesday 30th June
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Watershed moment in the racial equality movement, it's a hot topic in conversations for weeks around the world, and we are to believe that this is 'a bad time' for large companies to launch initiatives to research ethnic diversity in STEM subjects?

Exige77

5,184 posts

146 months

Tuesday 30th June
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HustleRussell said:
Watershed moment in the racial equality movement, it's a hot topic in conversations for weeks around the world, and we are to believe that this is 'a bad time' for large companies to launch initiatives to research ethnic diversity in STEM subjects?
Absolutely no problem with that. It’s an initiative to be praised !!

Painting your famously silver car black just looks like virtue signaling like policemen taking the knee.

A gesture too far.