Black Mercedes.
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Muzzer79 said:
This
I fail to see how painting the car black is such an issue.
Lewis, like several celebrities, has supported BLM but Mercedes clearly have not as BLM is not on the car anywhere.
They've changed the colour of the car to increase awareness, get people talking about ways to end racism and also look at their own internal behaviour.
I can't see why this is a bad thing?
Are you really so naive? The team is known as the "Silver Arrows". Was there any mention pre-season of the car being black? Was it black in Australia? Do you really think that it would be black but for the very BLM protests? It's black in support of BLM and they have caved in to that nonsense like many other people and organisations, just as it is backfiring as people realise that it is really about Marxism and smashing the system and not about the lives of BAME people. Why would anyone sane want to be associated with a Marxist, smash the system movement?I fail to see how painting the car black is such an issue.
Lewis, like several celebrities, has supported BLM but Mercedes clearly have not as BLM is not on the car anywhere.
They've changed the colour of the car to increase awareness, get people talking about ways to end racism and also look at their own internal behaviour.
I can't see why this is a bad thing?
LucyP said:
Are you really so naive? The team is known as the "Silver Arrows". Was there any mention pre-season of the car being black? Was it black in Australia? Do you really think that it would be black but for the very BLM protests? It's black in support of BLM and they have caved in to that nonsense like many other people and organisations, just as it is backfiring as people realise that it is really about Marxism and smashing the system and not about the lives of BAME people. Why would anyone sane want to be associated with a Marxist, smash the system movement?
The fastest production Mercedes are the AMG Black edition cars.jsf said:
LucyP said:
Are you really so naive? The team is known as the "Silver Arrows". Was there any mention pre-season of the car being black? Was it black in Australia? Do you really think that it would be black but for the very BLM protests? It's black in support of BLM and they have caved in to that nonsense like many other people and organisations, just as it is backfiring as people realise that it is really about Marxism and smashing the system and not about the lives of BAME people. Why would anyone sane want to be associated with a Marxist, smash the system movement?
The fastest production Mercedes are the AMG Black edition cars.It’s nothing to do with Black edition road cars but it might become if the association with BLM movement back fires on them.
sparta6 said:
I agree.
And yet Lewis is yet to convey how he thinks things could improve in Britain.
Every successful person I know has arrived through merit and hard work, regardless of ethnicity.
I don't know of another country as open and diverse.
Lewis himself is a prime example of that.
How can you possibly know that? And yet Lewis is yet to convey how he thinks things could improve in Britain.
Every successful person I know has arrived through merit and hard work, regardless of ethnicity.
I don't know of another country as open and diverse.
Lewis himself is a prime example of that.
LucyP said:
Muzzer79 said:
This
I fail to see how painting the car black is such an issue.
Lewis, like several celebrities, has supported BLM but Mercedes clearly have not as BLM is not on the car anywhere.
They've changed the colour of the car to increase awareness, get people talking about ways to end racism and also look at their own internal behaviour.
I can't see why this is a bad thing?
Are you really so naive? The team is known as the "Silver Arrows". Was there any mention pre-season of the car being black? Was it black in Australia? Do you really think that it would be black but for the very BLM protests? It's black in support of BLM and they have caved in to that nonsense like many other people and organisations, just as it is backfiring as people realise that it is really about Marxism and smashing the system and not about the lives of BAME people. Why would anyone sane want to be associated with a Marxist, smash the system movement?I fail to see how painting the car black is such an issue.
Lewis, like several celebrities, has supported BLM but Mercedes clearly have not as BLM is not on the car anywhere.
They've changed the colour of the car to increase awareness, get people talking about ways to end racism and also look at their own internal behaviour.
I can't see why this is a bad thing?
Asking for a friend.
LucyP said:
Well how else did he manage to become such a successful sportsman then? Luck? Fairies? He's Jesus?
My post refers to the part of his that is in bold...Sparta6 claims that every successful person they know arrived through hard work and merit and ethnicity did not play a part. How can anyone possbily know that? Oh and yes, luck did undoubtably play a part in Lewis' success just like it does in everybody elses.
Edited by Dark85 on Tuesday 30th June 17:29
I just blocked the NPE forum and now it’s seeping into the F1 threads!
It’s a new livery that we all agree looks nice. Good thing.
Mercedes want to make sure that going forward they are giving more opportunities to poorly represented sections of society. Good thing.
They haven’t plastered BLM sponsorship all over the car. Maybe a good thing.
What’s there to argue about? Apart from the unsaid opinions of some posters that’s better left on the more questionable threads in NPE.
It’s a new livery that we all agree looks nice. Good thing.
Mercedes want to make sure that going forward they are giving more opportunities to poorly represented sections of society. Good thing.
They haven’t plastered BLM sponsorship all over the car. Maybe a good thing.
What’s there to argue about? Apart from the unsaid opinions of some posters that’s better left on the more questionable threads in NPE.
MiniMan64 said:
I just blocked the NPE forum and now it’s seeping into the F1 threads!
It’s a new livery that we all agree looks nice. Good thing.
Mercedes want to make sure that going forward they are giving more opportunities to poorly represented sections of society. Good thing.
They haven’t plastered BLM sponsorship all over the car. Maybe a good thing.
What’s there to argue about? Apart from the unsaid opinions of some posters that’s better left on the more questionable threads in NPE.
What are the unsaid opinions of some posters that are better left on the more questionable threads in NPE ?It’s a new livery that we all agree looks nice. Good thing.
Mercedes want to make sure that going forward they are giving more opportunities to poorly represented sections of society. Good thing.
They haven’t plastered BLM sponsorship all over the car. Maybe a good thing.
What’s there to argue about? Apart from the unsaid opinions of some posters that’s better left on the more questionable threads in NPE.
It would be good to understand what you have deduced.
Dark85 said:
LucyP said:
Well how else did he manage to become such a successful sportsman then? Luck? Fairies? He's Jesus?
My post refers to the part of his that is in bold...Sparta6 claims that every successful person they know arrived through hard work and merit and ethnicity did not play a part. How can anyone possbily know that? Oh and yes, luck did undoubtably play a part in Lewis' success just like it does in everybody elses.
Edited by Dark85 on Tuesday 30th June 17:29
HustleRussell said:
Watershed moment in the racial equality movement, it's a hot topic in conversations for weeks around the world, and we are to believe that this is 'a bad time' for large companies to launch initiatives to research ethnic diversity in STEM subjects?
Absolutely no problem with that. It’s an initiative to be praised !!Painting your famously silver car black just looks like virtue signaling like policemen taking the knee.
A gesture too far.
Exige77 said:
HustleRussell said:
Watershed moment in the racial equality movement, it's a hot topic in conversations for weeks around the world, and we are to believe that this is 'a bad time' for large companies to launch initiatives to research ethnic diversity in STEM subjects?
Absolutely no problem with that. It’s an initiative to be praised !!Painting your famously silver car black just looks like virtue signaling like policemen taking the knee.
A gesture too far.
(I'm not having a go at you, I'm just being obtuse)
Exige77 said:
HustleRussell said:
Watershed moment in the racial equality movement, it's a hot topic in conversations for weeks around the world, and we are to believe that this is 'a bad time' for large companies to launch initiatives to research ethnic diversity in STEM subjects?
Absolutely no problem with that. It’s an initiative to be praised !!Painting your famously silver car black just looks like virtue signaling like policemen taking the knee.
A gesture too far.
Keeps their star driver happy, costs naff all, gets people talking and winds up those that require it.
Excellent.
IforB said:
Seems like a damned good idea to me.
Keeps their star driver happy, costs naff all, gets people talking and winds up those that require it.
Excellent.
And... it really looks better in black. If they'd just done that and attributed the change to nothing, I would still have been perfectly happy about it Keeps their star driver happy, costs naff all, gets people talking and winds up those that require it.
Excellent.
TheDeuce said:
IforB said:
Seems like a damned good idea to me.
Keeps their star driver happy, costs naff all, gets people talking and winds up those that require it.
Excellent.
And... it really looks better in black. If they'd just done that and attributed the change to nothing, I would still have been perfectly happy about it Keeps their star driver happy, costs naff all, gets people talking and winds up those that require it.
Excellent.
LucyP said:
Muzzer79 said:
This
I fail to see how painting the car black is such an issue.
Lewis, like several celebrities, has supported BLM but Mercedes clearly have not as BLM is not on the car anywhere.
They've changed the colour of the car to increase awareness, get people talking about ways to end racism and also look at their own internal behaviour.
I can't see why this is a bad thing?
Are you really so naive? The team is known as the "Silver Arrows". Was there any mention pre-season of the car being black? Was it black in Australia? Do you really think that it would be black but for the very BLM protests? It's black in support of BLM and they have caved in to that nonsense like many other people and organisations, just as it is backfiring as people realise that it is really about Marxism and smashing the system and not about the lives of BAME people. Why would anyone sane want to be associated with a Marxist, smash the system movement?I fail to see how painting the car black is such an issue.
Lewis, like several celebrities, has supported BLM but Mercedes clearly have not as BLM is not on the car anywhere.
They've changed the colour of the car to increase awareness, get people talking about ways to end racism and also look at their own internal behaviour.
I can't see why this is a bad thing?
Prove it.
I’m a little confused by this thread. Just to be clear, do some people actually believe that Mercedes were wrong to support a cause by changing their livery?
What would you say if a team covered their car in poppies come October/November?
What if a team painted its car pink to support Breast Cancer?
Would these not be acceptable either?
What would you say if a team covered their car in poppies come October/November?
What if a team painted its car pink to support Breast Cancer?
Would these not be acceptable either?
Nampahc Niloc said:
I’m a little confused by this thread. Just to be clear, do some people actually believe that Mercedes were wrong to support a cause by changing their livery?
What would you say if a team covered their car in poppies come October/November?
What if a team painted its car pink to support Breast Cancer?
Would these not be acceptable either?
Agreed, you’ve hit the nail on the head! Why didn’t we all see it before?What would you say if a team covered their car in poppies come October/November?
What if a team painted its car pink to support Breast Cancer?
Would these not be acceptable either?
Clearly this painting their car black is a shameful, political, WOKE, bandwagon type activity. And goes beyond all reasonable minded boundaries.
Maybe I’ve missed something, that some of the posts on this thread haven’t. And a return to the halcyon days of the 30’s and 40’s is what’s required.
When Daimler Benz were using Jewish, Slavic and other forced slaved labourers to build their lorry’s. At least their racing cars were still silver..........
For those of you stressing and flapping about Mercedes painting their cars black. It’s their company, they can do what they like.
It may or may not agree with, suit, match or fit in with your political, social or make up or pattern of acceptance. And frankly, even if it’s a ‘sales or marketing gimmick’. I do wonder what those of you who disagree with it, would rather see?.......what, what is it you want them to do?
Do you want them to say “...you know what, it’s ok subjugating other members of society among your friends, just, you know, don’t do it in public.....it’s a bit frowned upon...”
Maybe, as an organisation, who have found themselves. Ashamedly very much on the side of what is morally, ethically and humanitarianly wrong, in the past. Perhaps they feel a debt of responsibility and accountability to stand against those things, which they believe. They got so horribly and appallingly wrong in the past.
I don’t know, seems to me, they’re on the right side of things
Edited by bockaaarck on Tuesday 30th June 22:57
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