Lewis Hamilton (Vol. 2)

Lewis Hamilton (Vol. 2)

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paulguitar

17,139 posts

94 months

Tuesday 13th September
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Bo_apex said:
Irvine was a top tier driver on that same grid.
Irvine was a journeyman.

Bo_apex said:
You may have also noticed that Schumacher would never criticise the car or his team.
Didn't have any issue ramming his fellow drivers off the track though.

StevieBee

11,258 posts

236 months

Tuesday 13th September
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paulguitar said:
Bo_apex said:
Irvine was a top tier driver on that same grid.
Irvine was a journeyman.

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I think he was better than that. I'd say he was a 'Bottas at Mercedes' but without the delusions of grandeur.

I quite liked him. Bit of character about him when everything was going peak corporate.

freedman

4,776 posts

188 months

Tuesday 13th September
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paulguitar said:
Bo_apex said:
Irvine was a top tier driver on that same grid.
Irvine was a journeyman.

Bo_apex said:
You may have also noticed that Schumacher would never criticise the car or his team.
Didn't have any issue ramming his fellow drivers off the track though.
Irvine would have been World Champion, but Ferrari failed to put everything into ensuring it after Schumachers injury

They were more interested in Schumacher than Irvine, even though only one had a championship chance

silentbrown

7,501 posts

97 months

Tuesday 13th September
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More AMG Mercedes, than just LH, but I love this.

https://twitter.com/_RichardParry_/status/15694978...

https://imgur.com/gallery/DeMD9OK

Worth diving in at high zoom to find the details.

I'm not sure I understand the champagne timebomb in the kitchen, though...




ETA: He's done a Ferrari one too.. https://twitter.com/_RichardParry_/status/15543037...

Edited by silentbrown on Tuesday 13th September 23:00

Deesee

6,096 posts

64 months

Tuesday 13th September
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Haha..

The inverted wheels (DAS)?!

Lewis’s dressing room! (Suit of armour)!

Rosco in race control!

The tyres=gone

Hammer on Lewis bench..

Targets on the backs..

Rosberg on the fridge.. with the bodywork from Spain 2016 above..

This probably needs its own thread..

Oh latest spot..

George’s room, PowerPoint, the queen, and extra headroom on the door.. lol











PhilAsia

1,549 posts

56 months

Wednesday 14th September
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Deesee said:
Haha..

The inverted wheels (DAS)?!

Lewis’s dressing room! (Suit of armour)!

Rosco in race control!

The tyres=gone

Hammer on Lewis bench..

Targets on the backs..

Rosberg on the fridge.. with the bodywork from Spain 2016 above..

This probably needs its own thread..

Oh latest spot..

George’s room, PowerPoint, the queen, and extra headroom on the door.. lol










Must be a UK thing...or an age thing.....or something.

Bo_apex

1,780 posts

199 months

Wednesday 14th September
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StevieBee said:
paulguitar said:
Bo_apex said:
Irvine was a top tier driver on that same grid.
Irvine was a journeyman.

[
I think he was better than that. I'd say he was a 'Bottas at Mercedes' but without the delusions of grandeur.

I quite liked him. Bit of character about him when everything was going peak corporate.
Looking at that grid I'd have to say Irvine was top 6.

He also fought Mika down to the wire for the championship, good strength of character.

paulguitar

17,139 posts

94 months

Wednesday 14th September
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Bo_apex said:
StevieBee said:
paulguitar said:
Bo_apex said:
Irvine was a top tier driver on that same grid.
Irvine was a journeyman.

[
I think he was better than that. I'd say he was a 'Bottas at Mercedes' but without the delusions of grandeur.

I quite liked him. Bit of character about him when everything was going peak corporate.
Looking at that grid I'd have to say Irvine was top 6.

He also fought Mika down to the wire for the championship, good strength of character.
I'd put Irvine on a par with Perez today. A solid, dependable driver but not a star. He was very much brought into Ferrari to not be any trouble for his superstar teammate, and he was very aware of that role from the start.

I think the fact that he did indeed fight Hakinnen down to the last race for the 1999 title is one of those anomalies that occur every now and then. He wasn't really on the same planet as Mika.









Bo_apex

1,780 posts

199 months

Wednesday 14th September
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paulguitar said:
Bo_apex said:
StevieBee said:
paulguitar said:
Bo_apex said:
Irvine was a top tier driver on that same grid.
Irvine was a journeyman.

[
I think he was better than that. I'd say he was a 'Bottas at Mercedes' but without the delusions of grandeur.

I quite liked him. Bit of character about him when everything was going peak corporate.
Looking at that grid I'd have to say Irvine was top 6.

He also fought Mika down to the wire for the championship, good strength of character.
I'd put Irvine on a par with Perez today. A solid, dependable driver but not a star. He was very much brought into Ferrari to not be any trouble for his superstar teammate, and he was very aware of that role from the start.

I think the fact that he did indeed fight Hakinnen down to the last race for the 1999 title is one of those anomalies that occur every now and then. He wasn't really on the same planet as Mika.







Fighting spirit can often close up the gap. Irvine had it, and Mansell had it in spades.

paulguitar

17,139 posts

94 months

Wednesday 14th September
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Bo_apex said:
Fighting spirit can often close up the gap. Irvine had it, and Mansell had it in spades.
That's a fair point. I think Mansell was in a different league to Irvine though.



Bo_apex

1,780 posts

199 months

Wednesday 14th September
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paulguitar said:
Bo_apex said:
Fighting spirit can often close up the gap. Irvine had it, and Mansell had it in spades.
That's a fair point. I think Mansell was in a different league to Irvine though.
You're probably right. And any driver that races with a broken foot against doctors orders is firmly in the special league.

TriumphStag3.0V8

2,585 posts

62 months

Wednesday 14th September
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silentbrown said:
More AMG Mercedes, than just LH, but I love this.

https://twitter.com/_RichardParry_/status/15694978...

https://imgur.com/gallery/DeMD9OK

Worth diving in at high zoom to find the details.

I'm not sure I understand the champagne timebomb in the kitchen, though...




ETA: He's done a Ferrari one too.. https://twitter.com/_RichardParry_/status/15543037...

Edited by silentbrown on Tuesday 13th September 23:00
Those are brilliant. Especially the spare headphones room.

Love the two lost Ferrari mechanics outside presumably with Sainz's missing wheel.

Can't wait for the RedBull one.

glazbagun

12,993 posts

178 months

Wednesday 14th September
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The ferrari mechanics approaching the engine in full bomb-squad gear. laugh

Man-At-Arms

5,871 posts

160 months

Wednesday 14th September
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best bit is the Ferrari mechanics making Pizza !!

freedman

4,776 posts

188 months

Wednesday 14th September
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paulguitar said:
Bo_apex said:
Irvine was a top tier driver on that same grid.
Irvine was a journeyman.

Bo_apex said:
You may have also noticed that Schumacher would never criticise the car or his team.
Didn't have any issue ramming his fellow drivers off the track though.
Irvine would have been World Champion, but Ferrari failed to put everything into ensuring it after Schumachers injury

They were more interested in Schumacher than Irvine, even though only one had a championship chance

Muzzer79

6,871 posts

168 months

Wednesday 14th September
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Bo_apex said:
StevieBee said:
paulguitar said:
Bo_apex said:
Irvine was a top tier driver on that same grid.
Irvine was a journeyman.

[
I think he was better than that. I'd say he was a 'Bottas at Mercedes' but without the delusions of grandeur.

I quite liked him. Bit of character about him when everything was going peak corporate.
Looking at that grid I'd have to say Irvine was top 6.

He also fought Mika down to the wire for the championship, good strength of character.
As soon as Schumacher broke his leg, Ferrari switched development to the 2000 car and stopped on the ‘99 car.

It was only through McLaren, quite inexplicably, being able to seemingly throw the championship away that Irvine was still in with a shout at the end. Even then he needed a race win given to him by Salo and then Schumacher when he returned.

Irvine wasn’t a bad driver, but he was lucky to be challenging for the title in ‘99

Siao

492 posts

21 months

Thursday 15th September
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freedman said:
paulguitar said:
Bo_apex said:
Irvine was a top tier driver on that same grid.
Irvine was a journeyman.

Bo_apex said:
You may have also noticed that Schumacher would never criticise the car or his team.
Didn't have any issue ramming his fellow drivers off the track though.
Irvine would have been World Champion, but Ferrari failed to put everything into ensuring it after Schumachers injury

They were more interested in Schumacher than Irvine, even though only one had a championship chance
They had already shifted focus to the 2000 car if I remember correctly. But no one would have guessed that Macca would have dropped the ball enough to put Ferrari back into contention. Mika had Irvine mostly beaten when both finished, but he binned it from the lead in Italy, had a tyre failure in Germany and had Irvine being gifted two wins by his team mates. The difference between the two drivers was stark: Mika had 5 retirements that year to Eddie's 1 and he still won the WDC. Eddie needed a lot of help/luck to make it where he ended.

Having said that, he was not a bad driver at all. I'd class him as a Rubens/Webber/Ralf/DC level; he could win on his day, but these days didn't come often enough to mount a continuous WDC challenge.

axel1990chp

110 posts

84 months

Tuesday 20th September
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TobyTR, deary me man.

Speaking as though you have a higher intellect than others and choice picking your information doesn't make your opinion more valid than anyone else's. Everyone is entitled to their own, and they shouldn't have to have theirs berated or belittled for it differing to yours.
The brown nosing of Lewis in this thread is high, but equally the bashing of Lewis is just the same. Quite clearly you're a Schuey fan and the idea of Lewis being in the same sentence as your saintly figure upsets you.

Some people really take this forum game to seriously, it would be interesting to see if you had the stomach for your attitude and entitlement in a friendly pub chat

Bo_apex

1,780 posts

199 months

Tuesday 20th September
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Siao said:
They had already shifted focus to the 2000 car if I remember correctly. But no one would have guessed that Macca would have dropped the ball enough to put Ferrari back into contention. Mika had Irvine mostly beaten when both finished, but he binned it from the lead in Italy, had a tyre failure in Germany and had Irvine being gifted two wins by his team mates. The difference between the two drivers was stark: Mika had 5 retirements that year to Eddie's 1 and he still won the WDC. Eddie needed a lot of help/luck to make it where he ended.

Having said that, he was not a bad driver at all. I'd class him as a Rubens/Webber/Ralf/DC level; he could win on his day, but these days didn't come often enough to mount a continuous WDC challenge.
Italy looked painful for Mika.
I think Irvine had similar tenacity to Webber.
Senna was picky in who he punched



paulguitar

17,139 posts

94 months

Tuesday 20th September
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Bo_apex said:
Senna was picky in who he punched
I don't think Senna was intending to be violent, he just found Irvine's attitude insufferable.