Lewis Hamilton (Vol. 2)

Lewis Hamilton (Vol. 2)

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Siao

492 posts

21 months

Thursday 22nd September
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heebeegeetee said:
Siao said:
Well Max did it and the internet didn't exactly melt, sooooo...
Max isn't Lewis. I've never seen a driver attract as much comment as Lewis, from the moment he entered F1, and I don't think I've seen a driver whereby every aspect of his life is commented on so much.

I mean, perhaps Jackie Stewart, I can recall the criticism over what he wore and how long his hair was, and then definitely his safety campaign, but of course there was no internet back then.
Sure, I agree. But I don't think it is a fair comparison with the older drivers, in an era when there were no social media like today nor such a wide audience.

Clockwork Cupcake

70,449 posts

253 months

Thursday 22nd September
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deadslow said:
honestly, no-one moans, whines and stirs more than Mercedes Big Shot Toto.
Really??? confused

paulguitar

17,139 posts

94 months

Thursday 22nd September
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Siao said:
paulguitar said:
Siao said:
heebeegeetee said:
angrymoby said:
& Senna also had every right to give Schumacher a talking to ...quite polite considering he'd just been punted out of the French Grand prix by him
Can you imagine Lewis doing the same thing, I mean seriously, can you imagine it?

The words internet and meltdown don't do it justice. smile
Well Max did it and the internet didn't exactly melt, sooooo...
I don't remember a similar incident involving Verstappen being taken out and then having a word with the other driver, on the grid, in his civvies. Which one are you thinking of?
Didn't he go and push Ocon after he tried to unlap himself and their cars touched?
Aha, indeed. Yes, not a good performance by Verstappen, far less intimidating than Senna's 'gentle word' whilst having his arm around Schuey, in a kind of passive but actually obviously aggressive way...

The question of how the internet would have reacted had Hamilton done similar, either Senna-style or Verstappen-style, is interesting. The outrage would still be causing breakdowns now, one suspects.











Siao

492 posts

21 months

Thursday 22nd September
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paulguitar said:
Siao said:
paulguitar said:
Siao said:
heebeegeetee said:
angrymoby said:
& Senna also had every right to give Schumacher a talking to ...quite polite considering he'd just been punted out of the French Grand prix by him
Can you imagine Lewis doing the same thing, I mean seriously, can you imagine it?

The words internet and meltdown don't do it justice. smile
Well Max did it and the internet didn't exactly melt, sooooo...
I don't remember a similar incident involving Verstappen being taken out and then having a word with the other driver, on the grid, in his civvies. Which one are you thinking of?
Didn't he go and push Ocon after he tried to unlap himself and their cars touched?
Aha, indeed. Yes, not a good performance by Verstappen, far less intimidating than Senna's 'gentle word' whilst having his arm around Schuey, in a kind of passive but actually obviously aggressive way...

The question of how the internet would have reacted had Hamilton done similar, either Senna-style or Verstappen-style, is interesting. The outrage would still be causing breakdowns now, one suspects.
I think this is coulda/woulda/shoulda. We just don't know what would happen, although it is very possible that there would be outrage; and that would be most likely because it would be out of character for Hamilton...

angrymoby

1,955 posts

159 months

Thursday 22nd September
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Siao said:
Being all over the place in his overtake attempt on Hill has no bearing in the Senna incident. I am not sure about the protocol for unlapping, we've seen other cars unlapping themselves.
kind of does when Senna was questioning Irvines competency on the race track & yes, back then the protocol was that lapped cars do not unlap themselves & it's only fairly recently that has changed- which is odd because you go onto mention Ocon & Verstappen- where Verstappen was very much of the opinion that it still isn't the done thing

Siao said:
And the French GP was a first lap incident, hardly something that he needed to take him on the side to swear at him. Not very politely either. If we had a bust up every time we had a first lap incident...
you must be good at lip reading

PhilAsia

1,549 posts

56 months

Thursday 22nd September
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Siao said:
paulguitar said:
Siao said:
paulguitar said:
Siao said:
heebeegeetee said:
angrymoby said:
& Senna also had every right to give Schumacher a talking to ...quite polite considering he'd just been punted out of the French Grand prix by him
Can you imagine Lewis doing the same thing, I mean seriously, can you imagine it?

The words internet and meltdown don't do it justice. smile
Well Max did it and the internet didn't exactly melt, sooooo...
I don't remember a similar incident involving Verstappen being taken out and then having a word with the other driver, on the grid, in his civvies. Which one are you thinking of?
Didn't he go and push Ocon after he tried to unlap himself and their cars touched?
Aha, indeed. Yes, not a good performance by Verstappen, far less intimidating than Senna's 'gentle word' whilst having his arm around Schuey, in a kind of passive but actually obviously aggressive way...

The question of how the internet would have reacted had Hamilton done similar, either Senna-style or Verstappen-style, is interesting. The outrage would still be causing breakdowns now, one suspects.
I think this is coulda/woulda/shoulda. We just don't know what would happen, although it is very possible that there would be outrage; and that would be most likely because it would be out of character for Hamilton...
I am not sure whether you have considered the character of those posting about Lewis sufficiently.

Siao

492 posts

21 months

Thursday 22nd September
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angrymoby said:
Siao said:
Being all over the place in his overtake attempt on Hill has no bearing in the Senna incident. I am not sure about the protocol for unlapping, we've seen other cars unlapping themselves.
kind of does when Senna was questioning Irvines competency on the race track & yes, back then the protocol was that lapped cars do not unlap themselves & it's only fairly recently that has changed- which is odd because you go onto mention Ocon & Verstappen- where Verstappen was very much of the opinion that it still isn't the done thing
It doesn't in my opinion, one clumsy move should not paint all his moves as such. If the protocol was that, then it is understandable that he was upset. But Senna's ego was bigger than any other driver's, so getting unlapped by someone must have hit a chord (is this the correct expression?).

angrymoby said:
Siao said:
And the French GP was a first lap incident, hardly something that he needed to take him on the side to swear at him. Not very politely either. If we had a bust up every time we had a first lap incident...
you must be good at lip reading
What do you mean? It's not lip reading, it was on camera where Senna was telling him that he fked it up and own it, something on that lines. That's from memory, so I'll be happy to be corrected!

Siao

492 posts

21 months

Thursday 22nd September
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PhilAsia said:
Siao said:
paulguitar said:
Siao said:
paulguitar said:
Siao said:
heebeegeetee said:
angrymoby said:
& Senna also had every right to give Schumacher a talking to ...quite polite considering he'd just been punted out of the French Grand prix by him
Can you imagine Lewis doing the same thing, I mean seriously, can you imagine it?

The words internet and meltdown don't do it justice. smile
Well Max did it and the internet didn't exactly melt, sooooo...
I don't remember a similar incident involving Verstappen being taken out and then having a word with the other driver, on the grid, in his civvies. Which one are you thinking of?
Didn't he go and push Ocon after he tried to unlap himself and their cars touched?
Aha, indeed. Yes, not a good performance by Verstappen, far less intimidating than Senna's 'gentle word' whilst having his arm around Schuey, in a kind of passive but actually obviously aggressive way...

The question of how the internet would have reacted had Hamilton done similar, either Senna-style or Verstappen-style, is interesting. The outrage would still be causing breakdowns now, one suspects.
I think this is coulda/woulda/shoulda. We just don't know what would happen, although it is very possible that there would be outrage; and that would be most likely because it would be out of character for Hamilton...
I am not sure whether you have considered the character of those posting about Lewis sufficiently.
I will concede that I may have been super-optimistic with my view tongue out

HustleRussell

22,131 posts

141 months

Thursday 22nd September
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
deadslow said:
honestly, no-one moans, whines and stirs more than Mercedes Big Shot Toto.
Really??? confused
Did you notice who posted that comment? wink

MustangGT

9,584 posts

261 months

Friday 23rd September
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HustleRussell said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
deadslow said:
honestly, no-one moans, whines and stirs more than Mercedes Big Shot Toto.
Really??? confused
Did you notice who posted that comment? wink
Indeed, he/she/they seriously need some professional help.

angrymoby

1,955 posts

159 months

Friday 23rd September
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Siao said:
That's from memory, so I'll be happy to be corrected!
hence i included the youtube vids ...let folks decide for themselves on Irvines standard of driving & whether Senna was intimidating Schumi

worth also noting that it was Schumi that had also taken issue with Senna first & well before the 'chat' at the french grand prix ...because in Brasil Senna had had the temerity to retake Schumacher on the straight after losing position due to a misfire- not sure why Michael thought this wasn't the done thing, but there you go




Edited by angrymoby on Friday 23 September 11:16