Croft has to go

Croft has to go

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carl_w

9,171 posts

258 months

Tuesday 16th November 2021
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jsf said:
Bernie and Max used each other.

FOM control the passes, not the FIA. Isn't that the issue we are discussing here, not what went on in the past and what dodgy back rubbing may have gone on?
Well yes but I've discovered the original story after posting the initial comment...

I assume JT doesn't care any more as he'll be out shortly (17th Dec I believe).

Adrian W

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13,857 posts

228 months

Wednesday 17th November 2021
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jsf said:
Adrian W said:
Now that the video is out it is going to interesting how the Sky team present it, they very rarely say anything against the FIA, something to do with biting the hand that feeds you.
The FIA don't give out the paddock passes. They can say what they want and should.
Whoever it is, none of the Sky team ever say anything controversial or argue, the best you'll get from Brundle is "that was a bit harsh"

RichB

51,506 posts

284 months

Wednesday 17th November 2021
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jsf said:
Adrian W said:
Now that the video is out it is going to interesting how the Sky team present it, they very rarely say anything against the FIA, something to do with biting the hand that feeds you.
The FIA don't give out the paddock passes. They can say what they want and should.
Which video, I've lost track. hehe

Teppic

7,340 posts

257 months

Wednesday 17th November 2021
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Adrian W said:
Now that the video is out it is going to interesting how the Sky team present it, they very rarely say anything against the FIA, something to do with biting the hand that feeds you.

PhilAsia

3,779 posts

75 months

Wednesday 17th November 2021
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Teppic said:
Adrian W said:
Now that the video is out it is going to interesting how the Sky team present it, they very rarely say anything against the FIA, something to do with biting the hand that feeds you.
Absolutely spot on Karun!!

Except the radius should resemble T4 and not be "easing" the opponent five car widths off the track and bouncing through the back alleys of the favelas...

It's T4 not the Parabolica.!

Teddy Lop

8,294 posts

67 months

Wednesday 17th November 2021
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jsf said:
Teppic said:
I've had a lot of time for him, but this week he has really lost the plot. His posts are like clickbait.
What a load of twaddle.

Max "easing" Lewis wide is like calling Mike Tyson a persuasive lover. He was about as delicate.

3anascooter

288 posts

187 months

Wednesday 17th November 2021
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Damon Hills comments while on the golf course are cringeworthy and he looks very awkward saying what he does. It almost looks like he (along with other sky broadcasters) has been told to toe a party line. Tonight's show with Brundles son was another that made it all sound acceptable and normal to be racing 5 car widths off the circuit

The podcast with Natalie Pinkham and Tom Clarkson also sounds dodgy the way they talk about.

Jolyon Palmer seems be the exception...maybe his contract won't be renewed for next year !!!

Teddy Lop

8,294 posts

67 months

Thursday 18th November 2021
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3anascooter said:
Damon Hills comments while on the golf course are cringeworthy and he looks very awkward saying what he does. It almost looks like he (along with other sky broadcasters) has been told to toe a party line. Tonight's show with Brundles son was another that made it all sound acceptable and normal to be racing 5 car widths off the circuit

The podcast with Natalie Pinkham and Tom Clarkson also sounds dodgy the way they talk about.

Jolyon Palmer seems be the exception...maybe his contract won't be renewed for next year !!!
What did Damon say? If there's anyone you think would have something to say about crash defense moves its him.

Adrian W

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13,857 posts

228 months

Thursday 18th November 2021
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3anascooter said:
Damon Hills comments while on the golf course are cringeworthy and he looks very awkward saying what he does. It almost looks like he (along with other sky broadcasters) has been told to toe a party line. Tonight's show with Brundles son was another that made it all sound acceptable and normal to be racing 5 car widths off the circuit

The podcast with Natalie Pinkham and Tom Clarkson also sounds dodgy the way they talk about.

Jolyon Palmer seems be the exception...maybe his contract won't be renewed for next year !!!
I thought that in the past Brundle mostly said what he was thinking but over the last couple of years he never says anything controversial, Ted Cravitz has the occasional pop, but mostly none of them bit the hand that feeds them.

3anascooter

288 posts

187 months

Thursday 18th November 2021
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Damons view - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvYUuKPp_hM

The show with Will Buxton and Alex Brundle was on Sky F1 last night - Inside Line i think it was called

LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

46 months

Thursday 18th November 2021
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Most commentators are like this, the worst is MotoGP where saps like Emmett never ever say anything remotely bad about Dorna, basically as they are in their employ, it is truly sad that pundits have to toe the line, I think Brunders still feels strongly enough about certain things to speak out, as do other commentators but only about safe stuff like track limits, things that are obviously open to debate, not driving standards so much or track safety.

PhilAsia

3,779 posts

75 months

Thursday 18th November 2021
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Teddy Lop said:
3anascooter said:
Damon Hills comments while on the golf course are cringeworthy and he looks very awkward saying what he does. It almost looks like he (along with other sky broadcasters) has been told to toe a party line. Tonight's show with Brundles son was another that made it all sound acceptable and normal to be racing 5 car widths off the circuit

The podcast with Natalie Pinkham and Tom Clarkson also sounds dodgy the way they talk about.

Jolyon Palmer seems be the exception...maybe his contract won't be renewed for next year !!!
What did Damon say? If there's anyone you think would have something to say about crash defense moves its him.
Umm, err, ah, mmmm, errrr....


LostM135idriver

657 posts

31 months

Thursday 18th November 2021
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I disagree. I think Damon is clearly saying that he thinks a penalty was deserved but then he outlines some arguments for why you might not want to issue a penalty. it's a pretty even handed and reasonable analysis of the whole situation. I think his intelligence and eloquence is needed more often on Sky F1 It surpasses Di Resta (so does my dog), Herbert and Button. If they used Anthony Davidson and Damon Hill more it would be much more watchable.

DartyBistard

175 posts

119 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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jsf said:
Weekend debrief.

It was an appalling brush it under the carpet debrief. I expected better from Alex, Will is a waste of space.
As an aside Will Buxton is a creepy weirdo who proudly announces that he's wept over the John Lewis Christmas advert as if that's an attractive quality and not the sure fire indicator of a fking melt.

cgt2

7,098 posts

188 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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PhilAsia said:
Umm, err, ah, mmmm, errrr....

He seems like a very nice bloke, I met him in the 90s but he has no charisma compared to this guy. I do agree his analysis is much better than the others but then that's not hard.

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PhilAsia

3,779 posts

75 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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cgt2 said:
PhilAsia said:
Umm, err, ah, mmmm, errrr....

He seems like a very nice bloke, I met him in the 90s but he has no charisma compared to this guy. I do agree his analysis is much better than the others but then that's not hard.

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He did redeem himself somewhat in the next interview tbh...

Adrian W

Original Poster:

13,857 posts

228 months

Tuesday 23rd November 2021
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DartyBistard said:
As an aside Will Buxton is a creepy weirdo who proudly announces that he's wept over the John Lewis Christmas advert as if that's an attractive quality and not the sure fire indicator of a fking melt.
Like all of the Christmas adverts this year it is rubbish, I cannot understand why it would bring him to tears or any TV advert would, maybe excluding charities.

Adrian W

Original Poster:

13,857 posts

228 months

Saturday 4th December 2021
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Once again, brundle not giving an opinion and DiResta hoping Mercedes get a penalty

iandc

3,710 posts

206 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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Mershedes and/or Lewis must have really pi88ed off PDR. He is sooo biased. Max is a racing god and Mershedes need to be pegged back as much as possible.

paulguitar

23,246 posts

113 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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iandc said:
Mershedes and/or Lewis must have really pi88ed off PDR. He is sooo biased. Max is a racing god and Mershedes need to be pegged back as much as possible.
Yes, Di Resta is totally unsuited for the job. Plainly biased, completely inarticulate, and easily flustered when they talk into his earpiece. I can't understand how he, along with the terrible yelling Croft, keep their jobs.