Croft has to go

Croft has to go

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iandc

3,311 posts

179 months

Sunday 7th November 2021
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I know they all have to fill in airspace from time to time but the"pub banter" and giggling at the end of every meaningless sentence they utter is bloody annoying. Perhaps a little research would help them fill in with meaningful commentary rather than giggling about what they had for dinner the previous evening. It's like they think we might be remotely interested biggrin

realjv

947 posts

139 months

Sunday 7th November 2021
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iandc said:
I know they all have to fill in airspace from time to time but the"pub banter" and giggling at the end of every meaningless sentence they utter is bloody annoying. Perhaps a little research would help them fill in with meaningful commentary rather than giggling about what they had for dinner the previous evening. It's like they think we might be remotely interested biggrin
The beauty of TV as opposed to radio is you have pictures and don't have to talk all the time to avoid 'dead air'. With the increased amount of on screen graphics and information sometimes the picture can be enough. (ESPN I believe had/have a philosophy that there should be enough information on screen for the viewer to follow what is happening when it is being show on a screen in a bar with no sound)

Sandpit Steve

5,112 posts

47 months

Sunday 7th November 2021
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realjv said:
The beauty of TV as opposed to radio is you have pictures and don't have to talk all the time to avoid 'dead air'. With the increased amount of on screen graphics and information sometimes the picture can be enough. (ESPN I believe had/have a philosophy that there should be enough information on screen for the viewer to follow what is happening when it is being show on a screen in a bar with no sound)
F1 are apparently working on a lot more graphics, hopefully of the factual rather than predictive type. In the last couple of races we’ve seen the start analysis, looking at 0-100kph and reaction times. Pulling out things like which gaps are closing and who’d started going unusually fast or slow would be useful.

Rob Smedley has done a few interviews on the subject in recent weeks, he’s now working with F1 on performance analysis - for those who don’t know him, he spent a decade as a race engineer, most notably with Filipe Massa.

Teddy Lop

6,249 posts

40 months

Sunday 7th November 2021
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Sandpit Steve said:
realjv said:
The beauty of TV as opposed to radio is you have pictures and don't have to talk all the time to avoid 'dead air'. With the increased amount of on screen graphics and information sometimes the picture can be enough. (ESPN I believe had/have a philosophy that there should be enough information on screen for the viewer to follow what is happening when it is being show on a screen in a bar with no sound)
F1 are apparently working on a lot more graphics, hopefully of the factual rather than predictive type. In the last couple of races we’ve seen the start analysis, looking at 0-100kph and reaction times. Pulling out things like which gaps are closing and who’d started going unusually fast or slow would be useful.

Rob Smedley has done a few interviews on the subject in recent weeks, he’s now working with F1 on performance analysis - for those who don’t know him, he spent a decade as a race engineer, most notably with Filipe Massa.
Yeah smedley talking about improving data was a bit galling, given I was watching 20 years ago with live timing on the side screen, something that now the several hundred quid I pay sky is not quite enough and they want to grasp more, and just to rub salt, we are subjected to Amazon's patronising attempts to digest for us our technical sport.

Smedley could do worse than sit down and watch how the motoGP boys run their shop


PH User

21,154 posts

81 months

Sunday 7th November 2021
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Teddy Lop said:
Yeah smedley talking about improving data was a bit galling, given I was watching 20 years ago with live timing on the side screen, something that now the several hundred quid I pay sky is not quite enough and they want to grasp more, and just to rub salt, we are subjected to Amazon's patronising attempts to digest for us our technical sport.

Smedley could do worse than sit down and watch how the motoGP boys run their shop
You pay sky several hundred quid to watch F1?

RichB

46,493 posts

257 months

Sunday 7th November 2021
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Teddy Lop said:
Yeah smedley talking about improving data was a bit galling, given I was watching 20 years ago with live timing on the side screen, something that now the several hundred quid I pay sky is not quite enough.
If you've got a laptop/notebook handy while you're watching the race you can get live timing here: https://f1.tfeed.net/live

LukeBrown66

1,714 posts

19 months

Monday 8th November 2021
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Have to admit that I thought he was OK in Mexico, not usual for me to watch f1 live but he was bearable in comms for a change.

cgt2

2,431 posts

161 months

Monday 8th November 2021
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LukeBrown66 said:
Have to admit that I thought he was OK in Mexico, not usual for me to watch f1 live but he was bearable in comms for a change.
Apart from repeatedly getting the age wrong of the driver leading the WDC

patmahe

5,463 posts

177 months

Monday 8th November 2021
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LukeBrown66 said:
Have to admit that I thought he was OK in Mexico, not usual for me to watch f1 live but he was bearable in comms for a change.
Have to agree (and I've been very critical of him in the past) he kept the shouting to a minimum although I was casually watching rather than glued to it so maybe I just missed it smile

Gary C

9,137 posts

152 months

Tuesday 9th November 2021
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patmahe said:
LukeBrown66 said:
Have to admit that I thought he was OK in Mexico, not usual for me to watch f1 live but he was bearable in comms for a change.
Have to agree (and I've been very critical of him in the past) he kept the shouting to a minimum although I was casually watching rather than glued to it so maybe I just missed it smile
I thought he was a bit more subdued on this time out.

Even his 'lights out...' twaddle seemed to be toned down.

He probably is on PH smile

LostM135idriver

657 posts

4 months

Tuesday 9th November 2021
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Gary C said:
patmahe said:
LukeBrown66 said:
Have to admit that I thought he was OK in Mexico, not usual for me to watch f1 live but he was bearable in comms for a change.
Have to agree (and I've been very critical of him in the past) he kept the shouting to a minimum although I was casually watching rather than glued to it so maybe I just missed it smile
I thought he was a bit more subdued on this time out.

Even his 'lights out...' twaddle seemed to be toned down.

He probably is on PH smile
Yes, it was probably this 64th page of critique that finally convinced him.

Gary C

9,137 posts

152 months

Tuesday 9th November 2021
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LostM135idriver said:
Gary C said:
patmahe said:
LukeBrown66 said:
Have to admit that I thought he was OK in Mexico, not usual for me to watch f1 live but he was bearable in comms for a change.
Have to agree (and I've been very critical of him in the past) he kept the shouting to a minimum although I was casually watching rather than glued to it so maybe I just missed it smile
I thought he was a bit more subdued on this time out.

Even his 'lights out...' twaddle seemed to be toned down.

He probably is on PH smile
Yes, it was probably this 64th page of critique that finally convinced him.
No doubt.

cgt2

2,431 posts

161 months

Thursday 11th November 2021
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I think he must read this thread and go out of his way to act preposterous on the F1 Show.

jsf

24,685 posts

209 months

Thursday 11th November 2021
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That was seriously cringe, but did anyone catch Di Resta's opening comments? Classic first rate gibberish. biggrin

cgt2

2,431 posts

161 months

Thursday 11th November 2021
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jsf said:
That was seriously cringe, but did anyone catch Di Resta's opening comments? Classic first rate gibberish. biggrin
At least he didn't say "Shabba".

He's a poet laureate compared to the big man

Adrian W

Original Poster:

12,390 posts

201 months

Friday 12th November 2021
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jsf said:
That was seriously cringe, but did anyone catch Di Resta's opening comments? Classic first rate gibberish. biggrin
I watched the F1 show, it was like he was relishing in Red Bills situation, and was looking for any opportunity to rub in Merchedes situation

whatleytom

858 posts

156 months

Friday 12th November 2021
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Gary C said:
No doubt.
I always wonder what Brundle truly thinks of him. He seems to occasionally get fed up with him in commentary but comes across as being too professional to let it actually get properly in the way.

Tommo87

2,780 posts

86 months

Friday 12th November 2021
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jsf said:
That was seriously cringe, but did anyone catch Di Resta's opening comments? Classic first rate gibberish. biggrin
God yeah.

The Monday after race day call at work usually has a comment or two about him and his obvious bias.

Whinger Spice was a new term for me about Red Bullst though

RichB

46,493 posts

257 months

Saturday 13th November 2021
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Crofty getting an entire full race worth of shouting into 25 laps hehe

Fundoreen

2,695 posts

56 months

Saturday 13th November 2021
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Gary C said:
patmahe said:
LukeBrown66 said:
Have to admit that I thought he was OK in Mexico, not usual for me to watch f1 live but he was bearable in comms for a change.
Have to agree (and I've been very critical of him in the past) he kept the shouting to a minimum although I was casually watching rather than glued to it so maybe I just missed it smile
I thought he was a bit more subdued on this time out.

Even his 'lights out...' twaddle seemed to be toned down.

He probably is on PH smile
I noticed when bbc news showed their 10 sec roundup of the mexico race last week the had the shouting comms turned right down. Why upset the tv licence payer.
Bet they are glad they dont pay the 800billion for the tv rights.