Aston Martin F1 Team
Discussion
I feel sorry for Perez after his contribution to Racing Point over his time with the team.
I also agree that Stroll does not deserve the criticism he gets.
That said Perez would probably be above him in the championship because i) he had to sit 2 races out due to C-19 and ii) Stroll did get a "free pass" last weekend.
p.s. Someone said that it's good to have another British F1 team; Racing Point is a British team so renaming the team as Aston Martin makes no difference in that respect.
I also agree that Stroll does not deserve the criticism he gets.
That said Perez would probably be above him in the championship because i) he had to sit 2 races out due to C-19 and ii) Stroll did get a "free pass" last weekend.
p.s. Someone said that it's good to have another British F1 team; Racing Point is a British team so renaming the team as Aston Martin makes no difference in that respect.
MO55 said:
Jon39 said:
We are bound to be discussing the re-entry of Aston Martin into Formula One racing, so perhaps now is a good time to begin.
Sergio Perez has this week announced, that he will be leaving Racing Point at the end of the present season. He did have a contract to drive for the team until the end of 2022. Four times world champion, Sebastian Vettel will be driving for Aston Martin next season, alongside Lance Stroll, son of the team owner Lawrence Stroll.
Aston Martin raced in F1 during 1959 and 1960 as a factory team, building their own cars. The timing of their entry into the sport at that time was unfortunate, because cars were changing from front engine to mid-engine configuration. The front engine Aston Martin quickly became uncompetitive and so the team withdrew from single seater racing.
The entry next year is on a different basis. Although being referred to as a factory team, it is more akin to the Aston Martin name being adopted by Racing Point F1 Team, an existing Formula One racing team.
Timeline of the team, based throughout at premises in Silverstone UK :-
1991 Jordan Grand Prix
2006 Midland F1 Racing
2007 Spyker F1
2008 Force India
2018 Racing Point Force India
2019 Racing Point
What colour scheme might be selected for the 2021 cars?
The 1959 Aston Martin DBR4 Formula One car.
Edited by Jon39 on Thursday 10th September 22:47
Isn't that DBR4 utterly gorgeous. Aston Martin Racing green would be my choice for the F1 cars,,,, pink in motorsport seems out of place, or maybe is just me. Delighted to see Seb has signed up for 'our' team, a fantastically capable driver, has that Hamilton ability to dig one out for pole, a gritty never say die attitude and an anglophile to his fingertips,,,, exciting times ahead for sure.
Where have 14 years gone?
DickyC said:
Indeed, one is in private hands, known as Green Pea, and was raced for years by Neil Murray (of VSCC and AMOC) I believe his son has it now and the other is at Beaulieu.
Ironically around the time you posted this yesterday I was wandering around the collection in the Beaulieu Motor Museum.650spider said:
I had a double take when I read Jordan demised in 2006...i thought it was a typo.
Where have 14 years gone?
Where have 14 years gone?
Well we have had the pleasure of seeing Eddie Jordan on the F1 coverage on the TV during some of those subsequent years. I've always found him quite funny and engaging to watch.
Matt_E_Mulsion said:
DickyC said:
Indeed, one is in private hands, known as Green Pea, and was raced for years by Neil Murray (of VSCC and AMOC) I believe his son has it now and the other is at Beaulieu.
Ironically around the time you posted this yesterday I was wandering around the collection in the Beaulieu Motor Museum.Off Topic - The long time owner of Green Pea was visiting Henniker Mews in Chelsea where the original factory had been to soak up the atmosphere and called in it at the hardware store that looked as if it had been there since the days of Bamford & Martin. It had. The shop was so old fashioned the counter stood in front of a wall of wooden drawers, each of which had an example of the drawer's contents fixed to the front. To his astonishment he recognised many of the parts from his car. He immediately stocked up on pulleys, threaded adjusters and plummer blocks.
Genuine Aston Martin parts from the hardware store. Those were the days.
Matt_E_Mulsion said:
650spider said:
I had a double take when I read Jordan demised in 2006...i thought it was a typo.
Where have 14 years gone?
Where have 14 years gone?
Well we have had the pleasure of seeing Eddie Jordan on the F1 coverage on the TV during some of those subsequent years. I've always found him quite funny and engaging to watch.
Looking to the future and winning of titles. How much better will the aston martin car have to be to make up for their driver defecit compared to the other top teams?
People keep floating newey's name around. I can imagine a boorish billionare throwning money in his face but you cant put a price on integrity.
He's an englishman after all not some non native that gets his self worth by the health of his bank account.
Also Red bull could end up losing the honda partnership if there was a perception the top talent was bailing out.
So a top 4 or 5 team is being formed. Much the same place they always challenged for but with nicer overralls and lunchroom.
I would bet the ferrari will be around Aston pace next year. That team will have the mega talented Leclerc and Sainz.
People keep floating newey's name around. I can imagine a boorish billionare throwning money in his face but you cant put a price on integrity.
He's an englishman after all not some non native that gets his self worth by the health of his bank account.
Also Red bull could end up losing the honda partnership if there was a perception the top talent was bailing out.
So a top 4 or 5 team is being formed. Much the same place they always challenged for but with nicer overralls and lunchroom.
I would bet the ferrari will be around Aston pace next year. That team will have the mega talented Leclerc and Sainz.
Fundoreen said:
Looking to the future and winning of titles. How much better will the aston martin car have to be to make up for their driver deficit compared to the other top teams? <clip>
By driver deficit do you mean Vettel who has not looked top of his game for the last few seasons and this year, is frankly, an also ran? Personally I would have kept Perez but I suppose they've gone for Vettel for marketing purposes because ... RichB said:
Fundoreen said:
Looking to the future and winning of titles. How much better will the aston martin car have to be to make up for their driver deficit compared to the other top teams? <clip>
By driver deficit do you mean Vettel who has not looked top of his game for the last few seasons and this year, is frankly, an also ran? Personally I would have kept Perez but I suppose they've gone for Vettel for marketing purposes because ... Who'll take bets on him beating Vettel next year - I think it's a strong possibility?
leerandle said:
I don't watch as much F1 as I used too, but as an AM owner, it will add more interest into the racing from next year on seeing Aston Martins on the track.
Also, its nice to see another 'british' team on the grid.
I was a mclaren fan, but will now be drawn between the two teams.
Anything that gives Aston a bigger profile globally and possibly more stability must be a good thing
I'm a huge Aston fan but let's be real, this is going to be nothing other than Mercedes reskinned as tracing point and painted green. Same as Alpine next year, it's a marketing exercise. Also, its nice to see another 'british' team on the grid.
I was a mclaren fan, but will now be drawn between the two teams.
Anything that gives Aston a bigger profile globally and possibly more stability must be a good thing
The only good thing about this will be watching Vettel either prove everyone wrong or exit at the end of 2021 (hopefully).
Neutralting said:
leerandle said:
...Also, its nice to see another 'british' team on the grid...
I'm a huge Aston fan but let's be real, this is going to be nothing other than Mercedes reskinned as tracing point and painted green...Neutralting said:
I'm a huge Aston fan but let's be real, this is going to be nothing other than Mercedes reskinned as tracing point and painted green. Same as Alpine next year, it's a marketing exercise.
And to the casual fans or none motorsport fans they just see Aston in F1, which marketing wise is a big plus. Jon39 said:
Some 'pub quiz' type trivia Jon.
The Mercedes-Benz Grand Prix Limited company (number 00787446) was incorporated on the 9th January 1964, as Tyrrell Racing Organisation Limited. There have been quite a few name changes since then.
You may recall, Tyrrell became F1 World Champions (beating Ferrari) with cars built in two ex-army wooden sheds, joined end to end.
The wooden building still remains today in rural Surrey, standing beside a more modern factory, which was used later by the team. It was all done by a handful of skilled people, some help from Ford (Walter Hayes, later Chairman of Aston Martin), oh and Jackie Stewart. In those days, most of the cars had the same engine, which could be purchased from Cosworth.
I think we will see a different Vettel next year, the weight of the Scuderia off his shoulders, hopefully RP/AM can carry the momentum of this year as well.
I'm a Scuderia fan but always nice to see "Manufacturer" teams enter/come back, I also live few hundred yards from Aston Martin Works so "local" team for me along with RBR.
I'm a Scuderia fan but always nice to see "Manufacturer" teams enter/come back, I also live few hundred yards from Aston Martin Works so "local" team for me along with RBR.
Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff