Official 2020 Eifel Grand Prix Thread **SPOILERS**

[Mr Pointy]

Deesee said:

ajprice said:

Which of the 5 tyre grades C1-C5 are they using for soft/medium/hard?

C2 / C3 / C4
Sets 2 / 3 / 8

When they changed/simplified the tyre naming I said we'd all get confused but was shouted down. Now there's endless talk about the soft at this race being the medium from last & so on.

[HustleRussell]

Mr Pointy said:

Deesee said:

ajprice said:

Which of the 5 tyre grades C1-C5 are they using for soft/medium/hard?

C2 / C3 / C4
Sets 2 / 3 / 8

When they changed/simplified the tyre naming I said we'd all get confused but was shouted down. Now there's endless talk about the soft at this race being the medium from last & so on.

Who’s confused?

[C350Akra]

HustleRussell said:

Mr Pointy said:

Deesee said:

ajprice said:

Which of the 5 tyre grades C1-C5 are they using for soft/medium/hard?

C2 / C3 / C4
Sets 2 / 3 / 8

When they changed/simplified the tyre naming I said we'd all get confused but was shouted down. Now there's endless talk about the soft at this race being the medium from last & so on.

Who’s confused?

You have to admit that to potentially have three different names for the same tyre compound (C3 can be soft, medium or hard) is a tad ridiculous. Why not just stick with C1, C2 etc?

[JonChalk]

Deesee said:

C2 / C3 / C4

Sets 2 / 3 / 8

My gut says those are1 tyre too hard.

But I guess nothing will work, if the weathers crap. Go softer and take the C1 and it will cold-grain to st. Go harder and take the C5 and no one will use it.

There’s really no way to tell what the tyres will do - what’s the coldest track temp seen in the Pirelli era?

[vaud]

JonChalk said:

My gut says those are1 tyre too hard.

But I guess nothing will work, if the weathers crap. Go softer and take the C1 and it will cold-grain to st. Go harder and take the C5 and no one will use it.

There’s really no way to tell what the tyres will do - what’s the coldest track temp seen in the Pirelli era?

https://www.gptoday.net/en/news/f1/236406/no-extra...

Freezing?

[HustleRussell]

C350Akra said:

HustleRussell said:

Mr Pointy said:

Deesee said:

ajprice said:

Which of the 5 tyre grades C1-C5 are they using for soft/medium/hard?

C2 / C3 / C4
Sets 2 / 3 / 8

When they changed/simplified the tyre naming I said we'd all get confused but was shouted down. Now there's endless talk about the soft at this race being the medium from last & so on.

Who’s confused?

You have to admit that to potentially have three different names for the same tyre compound (C3 can be soft, medium or hard) is a tad ridiculous. Why not just stick with C1, C2 etc?

The way I see it, the system is working exactly as intended- casual viewers who may dip into the sport occasionally or on a one-off basis have a consistent and easy to understand colour coded system Hard / Medium / Soft, and more geeky fans can find out whether that's a C1, C2 etc.

As a geeky viewer I have no problem with having to do the extra step of looking at C1, C2 etc as I think the benefit to casual viewers and therefore the sport as a whole is worthwhile

Prime / Option was crap, I was much younger and less geeky then and only recently have I learned which was which. The Pirelli rainbow tyres were rubbish especially when they changed it around and we had the Orange 'Superhard' and the Purple and Pink 'Ultrasoft' and 'hypersoft', Christ knows who signed that off, no reason nor rhyme!

[JonChalk]

vaud said:

JonChalk said:

My gut says those are1 tyre too hard.

But I guess nothing will work, if the weathers crap. Go softer and take the C1 and it will cold-grain to st. Go harder and take the C5 and no one will use it.

There’s really no way to tell what the tyres will do - what’s the coldest track temp seen in the Pirelli era?

https://www.gptoday.net/en/news/f1/236406/no-extra...

Freezing?

Fair enough, I probably should have been more explicit - what’s the coldest race track temp? Not practice or quali, but race?

[vaud]

JonChalk said:

Fair enough, I probably should have been more explicit - what’s the coldest race track temp? Not practice or quali, but race?

Canada 1978 according to F1 records at -5c.

Someone on reddit mentioned a more recent Canadian race (in the last 10 years) that was 8c but I can't find it.

[Deesee]

I’m not replying to that lot.. how can a soft be a hard

Hope this helps..

[Deesee]

Track tyre info..



Asphalt grip ... negative... come on VB..

Deg.. negative as well could be down to canvasses, I may have been wrong about the blistering..

[JonChalk]

vaud said:

Canada 1978 according to F1 records at -5c.

Someone on reddit mentioned a more recent Canadian race (in the last 10 years) that was 8c but I can't find it.

Wow - that would be funny! -5!

I genuinely think Northern Europe at this time of year is a mistake - a number of Italian and French circuits available. Double header at Turkey.

This may end up making F1 look silly.

Alright......sillier.

[vaud]

JonChalk said:

Wow - that would be funny! -5!

I genuinely think Northern Europe at this time of year is a mistake - a number of Italian and French circuits available. Double header at Turkey.

This may end up making F1 look silly.

Alright......sillier.

I don't know, I'm quite enjoying this season.

[HustleRussell]

Deesee said:

I’m not replying to that lot.. how can a soft be a hard

Hope this helps..

If it is relatively harder than the two other available tyres, which are softer.

Hope this helps

[TheDeuce]

JonChalk said:

Wow - that would be funny! -5!

I genuinely think Northern Europe at this time of year is a mistake - a number of Italian and French circuits available. Double header at Turkey.

This may end up making F1 look silly.

Alright......sillier.

It'd be a bit risky anywhere in Europe from this point on. But for us, all good surely? We already know who finishes where in championship terms so I'm happy to bring in the weather drama. Might be a tad annoyed if a race is actually cancelled of course.. I accept that could happen though.

Rain screwing up a few practice or quali sessions could be great for the race.

[Deesee]

HustleRussell said:

Deesee said:

I’m not replying to that lot.. how can a soft be a hard

Hope this helps..

If it is relatively harder than the two other available tyres, which are softer.

Hope this helps

& you’ve added nothing to the debate, well done, I did (somehow) expect better..

[JonChalk]

vaud said:

JonChalk said:

Wow - that would be funny! -5!

I genuinely think Northern Europe at this time of year is a mistake - a number of Italian and French circuits available. Double header at Turkey.

This may end up making F1 look silly.

Alright......sillier.

I don't know, I'm quite enjoying this season.

Yes, I realise my phrasing was ambiguous. I’m enjoying the wackiness (looking forwards to the daft Bahrain race especially).

What I meant was that entertaining though it is, there’s no way the teams will sign up for any of these bonkers options long term and subsequent seasons will return to “normal”. Despite that fact that for fans, the disruption has been good fun.

[HustleRussell]

Deesee said:

HustleRussell said:

Deesee said:

I’m not replying to that lot.. how can a soft be a hard

Hope this helps..

If it is relatively harder than the two other available tyres, which are softer.

Hope this helps

& you’ve added nothing to the debate, well done, I did (somehow) expect better..

Oh dear! I must be the first person on PH to have been deemed not to have added anything constructive to a debate!

[BrettMRC]

The arguments are for after the race....

[F1GTRUeno]

ch37 said:

ash73 said:

Puts today's F1 in perspective

Indeed, red flag if a tear off visor strip lands on the track these days!

Because of what happened to Bianchi I'd rather they were over-cautious.

Watching Liuizzi collide (albeit gently) with the tractor does not a good race make.

Current F1 has absolutely shown that in changeable conditions like the above race you still have great racing but at least they don't do things by halves with safety when cars are sliding off the track in wet weather.

[Second Best]

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