Official 2021 Bahrain Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***
Discussion
leef44 said:
TheDeuce said:
That's about the only thing Kimi has done for the brand since he went to Alfa - I've spent the last 15 years in TV and I'm going to guess that he got his contribution to that advert done within a single 10 hour day. I also imagine he would have understood what the f
k was going on in the advert even less than those of us who have watched it at least 50 times.
I think Kimi is literally just Kimi, very relaxed as a result of never trying to be anything other than 'Kimi'. He says he just wants to race... Alfa allows him to pretty much do nothing other than race. He'll do that until they say no more, at which point I don't think he'll have much of a reaction other than to transfer all his attention to his family and say a polite goodbye
What a nice guy. Shows how easy life can be when you're humble and honest. He's pretty much avoided all of the typical F1 bullst since day one by never having anything to say unless he genuinely feels there is something worth saying.
I totally agree k was going on in the advert even less than those of us who have watched it at least 50 times.I think Kimi is literally just Kimi, very relaxed as a result of never trying to be anything other than 'Kimi'. He says he just wants to race... Alfa allows him to pretty much do nothing other than race. He'll do that until they say no more, at which point I don't think he'll have much of a reaction other than to transfer all his attention to his family and say a polite goodbye
What a nice guy. Shows how easy life can be when you're humble and honest. He's pretty much avoided all of the typical F1 bulls
t since day one by never having anything to say unless he genuinely feels there is something worth saying.
I have so much respect for him on this front. Given his high profile F1 portfolio which can really get to anyone as a top driver, he has been so cool throughout.
I don't think F1 has much longer on Channel 4. They seem to be strangling it a little bit more each season, and then for the past 1 - 2 seasons Sky have been advertising their live coverage in the Channel 4 broadcasts.
To me it looks like there is slow pressure to try shut it down and have it exclusively on Sky. And if Sky can't get that in contract, possibly they're gradually adding pressure to the point where it becomes unviable for Channel 4 and they shut it down of their own accord. David Coulthard keeps threatening to leave every time the stewards make a daft decision anyway...
But that's all speculation. Maybe Sky have nothing to do with how long the race is available on All 4.
To me it looks like there is slow pressure to try shut it down and have it exclusively on Sky. And if Sky can't get that in contract, possibly they're gradually adding pressure to the point where it becomes unviable for Channel 4 and they shut it down of their own accord. David Coulthard keeps threatening to leave every time the stewards make a daft decision anyway...
But that's all speculation. Maybe Sky have nothing to do with how long the race is available on All 4.
HustleRussell said:
Dying to hear what, if anything, this diff issue was costing Max.
Three tenths a lap apparently! Massive...HustleRussell said:
HustleRussell said:
Dying to hear what, if anything, this diff issue was costing Max.
Three tenths a lap apparently! Massive...kiseca said:
I don't think F1 has much longer on Channel 4. They seem to be strangling it a little bit more each season, and then for the past 1 - 2 seasons Sky have been advertising their live coverage in the Channel 4 broadcasts.
To me it looks like there is slow pressure to try shut it down and have it exclusively on Sky. And if Sky can't get that in contract, possibly they're gradually adding pressure to the point where it becomes unviable for Channel 4 and they shut it down of their own accord. David Coulthard keeps threatening to leave every time the stewards make a daft decision anyway...
But that's all speculation. Maybe Sky have nothing to do with how long the race is available on All 4.
Ch4’s deal runs until 2024, same as Sky’s. Hopefully Sky will lose it after that. To me it looks like there is slow pressure to try shut it down and have it exclusively on Sky. And if Sky can't get that in contract, possibly they're gradually adding pressure to the point where it becomes unviable for Channel 4 and they shut it down of their own accord. David Coulthard keeps threatening to leave every time the stewards make a daft decision anyway...
But that's all speculation. Maybe Sky have nothing to do with how long the race is available on All 4.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/channel-4-multi...
HighwayStar said:
kiseca said:
I don't think F1 has much longer on Channel 4. They seem to be strangling it a little bit more each season, and then for the past 1 - 2 seasons Sky have been advertising their live coverage in the Channel 4 broadcasts.
To me it looks like there is slow pressure to try shut it down and have it exclusively on Sky. And if Sky can't get that in contract, possibly they're gradually adding pressure to the point where it becomes unviable for Channel 4 and they shut it down of their own accord. David Coulthard keeps threatening to leave every time the stewards make a daft decision anyway...
But that's all speculation. Maybe Sky have nothing to do with how long the race is available on All 4.
Ch4’s deal runs until 2024, same as Sky’s. Hopefully Sky will lose it after that. To me it looks like there is slow pressure to try shut it down and have it exclusively on Sky. And if Sky can't get that in contract, possibly they're gradually adding pressure to the point where it becomes unviable for Channel 4 and they shut it down of their own accord. David Coulthard keeps threatening to leave every time the stewards make a daft decision anyway...
But that's all speculation. Maybe Sky have nothing to do with how long the race is available on All 4.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/channel-4-multi...
Can't wait for Sky to lose the rights.
Stan the Bat said:
I'm sure Sky have throttled CH4 as much as they can.
Can't wait for Sky to lose the rights.
I'm mixed on that, for all skys faults having a broadcaster with the capacity/willingness to broadcast everything is nice, gotten quite into the f2&3Can't wait for Sky to lose the rights.
- memories of itv cutting the coverage before the podium for Hamilton's first ever win*
leef44 said:
TheDeuce said:
That's about the only thing Kimi has done for the brand since he went to Alfa - I've spent the last 15 years in TV and I'm going to guess that he got his contribution to that advert done within a single 10 hour day. I also imagine he would have understood what the fk was going on in the advert even less than those of us who have watched it at least 50 times.
I think Kimi is literally just Kimi, very relaxed as a result of never trying to be anything other than 'Kimi'. He says he just wants to race... Alfa allows him to pretty much do nothing other than race. He'll do that until they say no more, at which point I don't think he'll have much of a reaction other than to transfer all his attention to his family and say a polite goodbye
What a nice guy. Shows how easy life can be when you're humble and honest. He's pretty much avoided all of the typical F1 bullst since day one by never having anything to say unless he genuinely feels there is something worth saying.
I totally agree k was going on in the advert even less than those of us who have watched it at least 50 times.I think Kimi is literally just Kimi, very relaxed as a result of never trying to be anything other than 'Kimi'. He says he just wants to race... Alfa allows him to pretty much do nothing other than race. He'll do that until they say no more, at which point I don't think he'll have much of a reaction other than to transfer all his attention to his family and say a polite goodbye
What a nice guy. Shows how easy life can be when you're humble and honest. He's pretty much avoided all of the typical F1 bulls
t since day one by never having anything to say unless he genuinely feels there is something worth saying.I have so much respect for him on this front. Given his high profile F1 portfolio which can really get to anyone as a top driver, he has been so cool throughout.
Can enjoy a proper party, and has a balanced home life too
10/10
Teddy Lop said:
Stan the Bat said:
I'm sure Sky have throttled CH4 as much as they can.
Can't wait for Sky to lose the rights.
I'm mixed on that, for all skys faults having a broadcaster with the capacity/willingness to broadcast everything is nice, gotten quite into the f2&3Can't wait for Sky to lose the rights.
- memories of itv cutting the coverage before the podium for Hamilton's first ever win*
Teddy Lop said:
I'm mixed on that, for all skys faults having a broadcaster with the capacity/willingness to broadcast everything is nice, gotten quite into the f2&3
F1 have got to be looking at cutting out the middle man, and bringing it all into their own F1 TV subscription once the deal with Sky ends. (With highlights still on free-to-air).- memories of itv cutting the coverage before the podium for Hamilton's first ever win*
I think they'd probably get similar revenue to Sky from subscriptions (And ad space) - Just checked the US pricing and it's $80 per year! Would something like £7 a month entice those who usually wait for FTA highlights? Beats paying £30 for Sky Sports!
Sky carry a lot of production costs, but F1 already have their own people at the track anyway doing Youtube/F1 TV so additional pre/post race programmes shouldn't cost too much more.
mw88 said:
F1 have got to be looking at cutting out the middle man, and bringing it all into their own F1 TV subscription once the deal with Sky ends. (With highlights still on free-to-air).
I think they'd probably get similar revenue to Sky from subscriptions (And ad space) - Just checked the US pricing and it's $80 per year! Would something like £7 a month entice those who usually wait for FTA highlights? Beats paying £30 for Sky Sports!
Sky carry a lot of production costs, but F1 already have their own people at the track anyway doing Youtube/F1 TV so additional pre/post race programmes shouldn't cost too much more.
probably. 7 quid sounds a bit light, motogp charge 200 (140 if you vpn and pretend not to be British) although maybe liberty might understand economies of scale better and also the power of exposure - I suspect the reality is more likely to be a premium sub service alongside FTA with ads for the hoi polloi.I think they'd probably get similar revenue to Sky from subscriptions (And ad space) - Just checked the US pricing and it's $80 per year! Would something like £7 a month entice those who usually wait for FTA highlights? Beats paying £30 for Sky Sports!
Sky carry a lot of production costs, but F1 already have their own people at the track anyway doing Youtube/F1 TV so additional pre/post race programmes shouldn't cost too much more.
mw88 said:
F1 have got to be looking at cutting out the middle man, and bringing it all into their own F1 TV subscription once the deal with Sky ends. (With highlights still on free-to-air).
I think they'd probably get similar revenue to Sky from subscriptions (And ad space) - Just checked the US pricing and it's $80 per year! Would something like £7 a month entice those who usually wait for FTA highlights? Beats paying £30 for Sky Sports!
Sky carry a lot of production costs, but F1 already have their own people at the track anyway doing Youtube/F1 TV so additional pre/post race programmes shouldn't cost too much more.
7 quid a month or so would be a bargain. It will be interesting to see how much the prices go up once the Sky deal for the UK and the alternatives for other countries and F1 have an audience with no alternatives to see it live. I think they'd probably get similar revenue to Sky from subscriptions (And ad space) - Just checked the US pricing and it's $80 per year! Would something like £7 a month entice those who usually wait for FTA highlights? Beats paying £30 for Sky Sports!
Sky carry a lot of production costs, but F1 already have their own people at the track anyway doing Youtube/F1 TV so additional pre/post race programmes shouldn't cost too much more.
It's not a direct comparison but Aussie V8's at the moment charge $AUS60 for a season pass and that now gives access to 2 days of 9 hour feeds for practice, quali, top 10 shootout, support races and the main game races as well.
anonymous said:
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If he gets to Mercedes next season he'll be in his 4th season in F1. There's nothing immediate about any pressure he'll be under, LeClerc was in the Ferrari in half that time and is performing as well as any other driver could in the highest pressure seat on the grid. Teddy Lop said:
I'm mixed on that, for all skys faults having a broadcaster with the capacity/willingness to broadcast everything is nice, gotten quite into the f2&3
The actual Sky TV product is very good, the original deal with Bernie was to set up a model of how to cover the event over three days, with a lot of access to drivers and team managers. The Sky coverage is also sold to various extents across the English-speaking world, something like 60 countries. - memories of itv cutting the coverage before the podium for Hamilton's first ever win*
F1 have learned a lot from how Sky have done it, and are starting to do more of their own feature pieces and magazine shows across the weekend. I’d expect that, if and when Sky lose the contract, a number of their team both in front and behind the camera will move across and work for F1 directly.
Oilchange said:
Teddy Lop said:
Stan the Bat said:
I'm sure Sky have throttled CH4 as much as they can.
Can't wait for Sky to lose the rights.
I'm mixed on that, for all skys faults having a broadcaster with the capacity/willingness to broadcast everything is nice, gotten quite into the f2&3Can't wait for Sky to lose the rights.
- memories of itv cutting the coverage before the podium for Hamilton's first ever win*
This was ironically when ITV were losing interest in F1 just as Lewis mania ascending.
ITV did have highlights to FIA GT, ITC, F3000 and GP2.
Prior to ITV, BBC's race coverage was worse - interruptions for race horsing for example - and only improved in the Damon Hill era IIRC.
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