Official 2021 Grand Prix Support races thread (F2, F3 & W)

Official 2021 Grand Prix Support races thread (F2, F3 & W)

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JonChalk

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4,587 posts

76 months

Saturday 27th March
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Two Red Bull liveried cars in different teams?

Hadn't spotted that yesterday. That's got to be a poor decision when they race against each other - very little to prevent them taking each other out.

thegreenhell

8,703 posts

185 months

Saturday 27th March
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Sandpit Steve said:
Dan Tantrum with a penalty. No change there.
and being a whiny tt on the radio.

SpudLink

3,698 posts

158 months

Saturday 27th March
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JonChalk said:
Two Red Bull liveried cars in different teams?

Hadn't spotted that yesterday. That's got to be a poor decision when they race against each other - very little to prevent them taking each other out.
Isn’t that still the sort of publicity Red Bull like? At this level they are looking for the drivers to prove themselves, less interested in what the team does.

Sandpit Steve

3,067 posts

40 months

Saturday 27th March
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SpudLink said:
Isn’t that still the sort of publicity Red Bull like? At this level they are looking for the drivers to prove themselves, less interested in what the team does.
Is it possible to both love Red Bull’s sponsorship of the junior formulae, and hate the way they deal with drivers in F1?

JonChalk

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4,587 posts

76 months

Saturday 27th March
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SpudLink said:
JonChalk said:
Two Red Bull liveried cars in different teams?

Hadn't spotted that yesterday. That's got to be a poor decision when they race against each other - very little to prevent them taking each other out.
Isn’t that still the sort of publicity Red Bull like? At this level they are looking for the drivers to prove themselves, less interested in what the team does.
True, and it's much more the drivers that carry the sponsorship in F2, but on every previous season, they've sponsored a team rather than the drivers individually.

SpudLink

3,698 posts

158 months

Saturday 27th March
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Sandpit Steve said:
Is it possible to both love Red Bull’s sponsorship of the junior formulae, and hate the way they deal with drivers in F1?
From the outside it looks great, helping youngsters make their way up to the highest level by talent alone.
However, I’ve read it described as “indentured servitude”.

JonChalk

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4,587 posts

76 months

Saturday 27th March
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There's a certain amount of justice in that for Ticktum, sadly.

WickerBill

871 posts

14 months

Saturday 27th March
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Racing Karma working quickly today I see

Sandpit Steve

3,067 posts

40 months

Saturday 27th March
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SpudLink said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Is it possible to both love Red Bull’s sponsorship of the junior formulae, and hate the way they deal with drivers in F1?
From the outside it looks great, helping youngsters make their way up to the highest level by talent alone.
However, I’ve read it described as “indentured servitude”.
IIRC the first year of the driver programme, a number of the drivers refused to sign the contract they were presented with on the first day - when they were a couple of dozen drivers competing for a couple of F3 drives. Sounded like like being in a boy band competition.

Drawweight

1,633 posts

82 months

Saturday 27th March
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I saw it Ticktum tried to go from the outside to the inside right on the apex of the corner.
It was inevitably he’d be hit.

paulguitar

11,512 posts

79 months

Saturday 27th March
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Some good racing in this one so far.

JonChalk

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76 months

Saturday 27th March
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paulguitar said:
Some good racing in this one so far.
..and some of the usual F2 clumsiness.

JonChalk

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76 months

Saturday 27th March
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This should be fun - mix of tyre changes, dropping drivers back, but with much faster tyres.

Can Zhou survive on old Softs?

Tyre Smoke

17,446 posts

227 months

Saturday 27th March
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Cracking finish to that race. Something F1 can only dream of.

SpudLink

3,698 posts

158 months

Saturday 27th March
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Is it too soon to speculate on Zhou taking Ocon’s F1 seat in the Alpine for 2022?

TheDeuce

9,586 posts

32 months

Saturday 27th March
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SpudLink said:
Is it too soon to speculate on Zhou taking Ocon’s F1 seat in the Alpine for 2022?
I think Ocon's seat is certainly up for grabs... He simply hasn't been as exiting or effective as expected since his progression to F1. He's also had a second, arguably also a third chance... Time to shuffle off as there is zero shortage of talent pushing up from below (and above, given Alonso's performance today).

Sandpit Steve

3,067 posts

40 months

Sunday 28th March
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TheDeuce said:
I think Ocon's seat is certainly up for grabs... He simply hasn't been as exiting or effective as expected since his progression to F1. He's also had a second, arguably also a third chance... Time to shuffle off as there is zero shortage of talent pushing up from below (and above, given Alonso's performance today).
F1 can be brutal in that respect. Ocon is like Stoffel Vandoorne, going from being seen as a future world champion to an F1 reject. He was in the final choice of two for a Mercedes drive but is now seen as under threat at Renault.

Zhou looks very good though, he deserves to graduate to F1.

Sandpit Steve

3,067 posts

40 months

Sunday 28th March
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F2 feature race about to start.

This new schedule takes some getting used to, only the one race before F1 on a Sunday now, rather than the two or three we had previously.

95 fiesta si

1,341 posts

118 months

Sunday 28th March
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donty get a chance to watch much F2, my god doesnt Alex sound like his dad !

JonChalk

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4,587 posts

76 months

Sunday 28th March
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This is good so far - Lundgaard vs Drugovich was class.