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Penelope Stopit

8,338 posts

74 months

Saturday 1st May
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A horrible weekend, will never forget it

Phil Dicky

6,589 posts

228 months

Saturday 1st May
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Penelope Stopit said:
A horrible weekend, will never forget it
I was on a stag weekend, a weekend I won't forget for all the wrong reasons.


Muzzer79

4,655 posts

152 months

Saturday 1st May
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belleair302 said:
The weekend should have been cancelled on the Friday in my opinion.
Without wanting to labour this......what for?

Roland perished on the Saturday and Senna on the Sunday.

In hindsight, it was obviously awful but I can’t see how anyone would have known what was coming to enable a race cancellation. confused

Crafty_

12,802 posts

165 months

Saturday 1st May
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Remember watching all three accidents.

Those horrid seconds as his car slewed around and finally came to a stop I can vividly remember.

Ruben's accident had been bad enough, it was almost unbelievable that things were just getting worse.. and that was before Sunday..

35 years this weekend since Toivonen's accident too.

thiscocks

2,555 posts

160 months

Saturday 1st May
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Gameface said:
95 fiesta si said:
dont know about that, but he did have a bad crash on the Friday.
From the man himself

https://youtu.be/08xCZdj6VfY
I don't think it's possible to die and then come back to life. Perhaps Watkins was just being light hearted. I thought he was knocked unconscious and had swallowed his tongue, perhaps his choking on his tongue is what Watkins was referring to?

Hugo Stiglitz

30,854 posts

176 months

Saturday 1st May
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I can't believe it's been so long. I still remember the footage. The weekend.

I remember calling my girlfriend, now wife from a phone box and her telling me the news about Sena too.

Zoobeef

5,937 posts

123 months

Saturday 1st May
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When you factor in the start line crash, the pit lane tyre incident and the fact a team sent their car back out at race speed with a helicopter on the track it was a truly disastrous weekend.

Penelope Stopit

8,338 posts

74 months

Saturday 1st May
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Phil Dicky said:
Penelope Stopit said:
A horrible weekend, will never forget it
I was on a stag weekend, a weekend I won't forget for all the wrong reasons.
Such is life, some things stick with us forever

Today is Easter Sunday, this is a year to the day when a very close friend died, still possible to wish her three children happy Easter and they do understand, difficult though

For many, Senna was never going to die like that yet he did

When did you find out he had died?

Penelope Stopit

8,338 posts

74 months

Saturday 1st May
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To keep more on topic

Seeing Ratzenberger as he was in his car that was still moving at a considerable speed shocked many, it was so horrible

Moley RUFC

3,365 posts

154 months

Saturday 1st May
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An amazing photo of Rubens covering his helmet with his hands on impact - a natural reaction that sort of summed up how big the impact was about to be....

Digger

12,088 posts

156 months

Saturday 1st May
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Moley RUFC said:
An amazing photo of Rubens covering his helmet with his hands on impact - a natural reaction that sort of summed up how big the impact was about to be....
Thanks for the link wink

Moley RUFC

3,365 posts

154 months

Saturday 1st May
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Digger said:
Thanks for the link wink
I saw it in a book hehe

Digger

12,088 posts

156 months

Saturday 1st May
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Moley RUFC said:
Digger said:
Thanks for the link wink
I saw it in a book hehe
I just used googled & saw it. As you say purely instinctive as we all would no doubt.

Gameface

16,366 posts

42 months

Saturday 1st May
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Digger

12,088 posts

156 months

Saturday 1st May
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Boggles the mind how some photographers capture their images. . .

Penelope Stopit

8,338 posts

74 months

Saturday 1st May
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Digger said:
Moley RUFC said:
Digger said:
Thanks for the link wink
I saw it in a book hehe
I just used googled & saw it. As you say purely instinctive as we all would no doubt.
If you mean react the same as,I doubt it, peoples reactions differ

Will never forget a high speed head-on impact, had one to two seconds to react, straightened arms and pushed against the steering wheel as hard as could, on, off and on brakes at the same time, felt like slow motion, five seconds or more

Do think that many involved in big impacts will push against the steering wheel and stay like that

We all differ though so..................

To this day still ask myself how did the mind tell the foot to on off the brake pedal



Digger

12,088 posts

156 months

Saturday 1st May
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Penelope Stopit said:
Digger said:
Moley RUFC said:
Digger said:
Thanks for the link wink
I saw it in a book hehe
I just used googled & saw it. As you say purely instinctive as we all would no doubt.
If you mean react the same as,I doubt it, peoples reactions differ

Will never forget a high speed head-on impact, had one to two seconds to react, straightened arms and pushed against the steering wheel as hard as could, on, off and on brakes at the same time, felt like slow motion, five seconds or more

Do think that many involved in big impacts will push against the steering wheel and stay like that

We all differ though so..................

To this day still ask myself how did the mind tell the foot to on off the brake pedal
In those days was it also drummed in to the drivers to take the hands off the steering wheel at point of impact? I assume so. Natural reaction would be for the hands to protect.


Penelope Stopit

8,338 posts

74 months

Sunday 2nd May
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Digger said:
Penelope Stopit said:
Digger said:
Moley RUFC said:
Digger said:
Thanks for the link wink
I saw it in a book hehe
I just used googled & saw it. As you say purely instinctive as we all would no doubt.
If you mean react the same as,I doubt it, peoples reactions differ

Will never forget a high speed head-on impact, had one to two seconds to react, straightened arms and pushed against the steering wheel as hard as could, on, off and on brakes at the same time, felt like slow motion, five seconds or more

Do think that many involved in big impacts will push against the steering wheel and stay like that

We all differ though so..................

To this day still ask myself how did the mind tell the foot to on off the brake pedal
In those days was it also drummed in to the drivers to take the hands off the steering wheel at point of impact? I assume so. Natural reaction would be for the hands to protect.
Don't know and am not going to assume anything

Very much doubt that training someone how to face possible death would change a persons reaction to a possible death

Anyway...........

Horrible weekend and not bothered much with F1 since

coppice

6,616 posts

109 months

Sunday 2nd May
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The reactions to that weekend depend on your age. It was shocking , of course , but if you had already been watching motorsport for 25 years it was more deja vu than anything else . As a teenager in 1968 , every month seemed to bring another tragedy - Clark , Spence , Scarfiotti and Schlesser and it made me realise , first hand , that the sport exacted a high price. But even then , it was far safer than in previous decades ,and some pre war races were carnage . I do wonder about the level of handwringing we now get - of course poor Jules Bianchi 's death at Suzuka was terrible , but the coverage in Autosport was crass overkill .

It's up to an individual to decide whether to carry on watching after the death of a high profile driver but I do wonder - was it really that much of a shock that people get killed sometimes?