What's in an F1 drivers contract

[cgt2]

Don't forget Montoya's ''tennis injury'' which Ron was livid about

https://en.vmax.si/2020/04/07/juan-pablo-montoya-i...

[LukeBrown66]

As mentioned previously, and shouted down endlessly by Lewis lovers, he has something in his contract that he must have certain things as a rider at most tracks, a bit ridiculous I think, for a sports person, and even for people in bands or performers, they earn millions, are contracted to turn up anyway, want to to earn points, why does a track that is struggling to make money have to fork out for this stupid nonsense!

Makes no sense to me, then again, F1 doesn't really anymore anyway.

[GCH]

EdJ said:

pistonheadforum said:

I do remember somebody who was involved in that area explaining the ridiculous riders about having a bowl of M&Ms in the green room with all the red ones removed as a particular part of a contract and this was less about them being divas and more about being able to arrive to the concert and with a quick check could guage how thorough the prep had been (not following that mean other things would likely be missed).

Interesting, thanks. I'd never thought about it like that, but it makes sense.

That is true.
I have done similar - put a totally made up item in the contract/rider to see if they mail asking about it.
One highly regarded place quickly got the joke and actually 3D printed a box with the 'made up item name' on it for us
I also specified a left handed screwdriver and a tin of elbow grease in a couple of them. Again, for those doing their job properly, it's not an issue.

Many obscure items may appear to be diva-ish initially, but are genuinely for efficiency/time saving/schedule reasons,

[andrewcliffe]

Senna's 1987 contract with Lotus: https://www.industrydocuments.ucsf.edu/tobacco/doc...

Piquets contract with Lotus: https://www.industrydocuments.ucsf.edu/tobacco/doc...

[BTCC_racer]

andrewcliffe said:

Senna's 1987 contract with Lotus: https://www.industrydocuments.ucsf.edu/tobacco/doc...

Piquets contract with Lotus: https://www.industrydocuments.ucsf.edu/tobacco/doc...

Interesting stuff thanks for posting up!

[Unexpected Item In The Bagging Area]

This article featuring Martin Whitmarsh should be of interest

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/archive/article...

[andrewcliffe]

plus the 1987/1988 contract between Lotus F1 and Honda about engines: https://www.industrydocuments.ucsf.edu/tobacco/doc...

and the Lotus F1 / Camel contract https://www.industrydocuments.ucsf.edu/tobacco/doc...

Edited by andrewcliffe on Tuesday 11th May 17:23

[Exige77]

LukeBrown66 said:

As mentioned previously, and shouted down endlessly by Lewis lovers, he has something in his contract that he must have certain things as a rider at most tracks, a bit ridiculous I think, for a sports person, and even for people in bands or performers, they earn millions, are contracted to turn up anyway, want to to earn points, why does a track that is struggling to make money have to fork out for this stupid nonsense!

Makes no sense to me, then again, F1 doesn't really anymore anyway.

Not this nonsense again ?

Hearsay about gum and phone charger cable ?

[MissChief]

abzmike said:

I"d have thought that the content of an F1 drivers contract is determined whether he is being paid, or paying for the privilige.

I don't believe there is anyone driving at the moment, or anyone that hasn't been driving for even four or five years that isn't paid something by the team. Sure some of the lower level drivers might only be getting £150k a year but they will also likely receive payments from personal Sponsors and also have flights etc. paid for my the team, get fed and watered at the track by the team, have their Hotels paid for by the team. Sure they may pay something for maybe an evening meal out but they're not short that's for certain. According to this table, which I suspect is absolutely guesswork for many, the lowest paid driver on the grid this year is Tsunoda who is still getting £500k a year.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/985786/formula...

[LukeBrown66]

Just to add, regardless of your opinion, none of what I wrote originally was hearsay it came from a fairly senior guy who worked at Silverstone, so, please be respectful of what I wrote, whether you agree with it or not.

[Exige77]

LukeBrown66 said:

Just to add, regardless of your opinion, none of what I wrote originally was hearsay it came from a fairly senior guy who worked at Silverstone, so, please be respectful of what I wrote, whether you agree with it or not.

Hearsay in other words

[MissChief]

LukeBrown66 said:

Just to add, regardless of your opinion, none of what I wrote originally was hearsay it came from a fairly senior guy who worked at Silverstone, so, please be respectful of what I wrote, whether you agree with it or not.

Depends what it is really. If he wants two guava and mango monster, three watermelon and a fridge with bottled water, that’s not really an issue. If he wants sixteen packets of skittles sorted into colours in glass bowls 7-9” in diameter, no deeper than 4” and the green ones removed then that’s just weird.

[Sandpit Steve]

Exige77 said:

LukeBrown66 said:

Just to add, regardless of your opinion, none of what I wrote originally was hearsay it came from a fairly senior guy who worked at Silverstone, so, please be respectful of what I wrote, whether you agree with it or not.

Hearsay in other words

And perfectly normal for any guest speaker attending an event.

[Exige77]

MissChief said:

LukeBrown66 said:

Just to add, regardless of your opinion, none of what I wrote originally was hearsay it came from a fairly senior guy who worked at Silverstone, so, please be respectful of what I wrote, whether you agree with it or not.

Depends what it is really. If he wants two guava and mango monster, three watermelon and a fridge with bottled water, that’s not really an issue. If he wants sixteen packets of skittles sorted into colours in glass bowls 7-9” in diameter, no deeper than 4” and the green ones removed then that’s just weird.

Lewis allegedly requested chewing gum and somewhere to charge his phone.

Apparently Silverstone couldn’t afford it and this Hamilton hater takes every opportunity to bring this nonsense up.

[MustangGT]

LukeBrown66 said:

extracted: he has something in his contract that he must have certain things as a rider at most tracks,

Until you can produce a certified copy of his contract this remains hearsay from an unreliable source.

Please quote specifics with your proof for these claims.

[mat205125]

Gameface said:

ch37 said:

A few drivers have mentioned a list of sports/activities they can and can't do during their downtime.

Pretty sure some sportsmen are not allowed to ride motorcycles.

Marco Marquez should have this to stop him damaging himself

[ch37]

Hamilton is able to go skydiving (regularly!) on his contract, can't imagine too many elite sportspeople under contract to teams are able to do that.

[LukeBrown66]

To add further, this info came from an ex Silverstone employee who was quizzed in a podcast about this stuff, so I can believe it is true.

[Exige77]

LukeBrown66 said:

To add further, this info came from an ex Silverstone employee who was quizzed in a podcast about this stuff, so I can believe it is true.

Still just hearsay.

Still pushing this nonsense ?

[ntiz]

For the bigger names I imagine quite a lot of time goes into image and brand rights. As the driver is a brand in their own right and will expect to be paid for the use of it. Also how much they can do outside of the sport with their brand and how that affects the team.

Wasn’t that one of the big changes when LH went to Mercedes they allowed him a lot of freedom. Not sure where I read it but I think LH has said when he was at McLaren they essentially owned or completely controlled everything he did on a commercial basis?

You could say allowing your driver to maximise their income outside of the car is a another way of paying them?