Michael Masi should be replaced
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sparta6 said:
F1 cars today are cutting edge, but only in decent weather. Perhaps they could benefit from a new wet tyre design to improve dispersement pattern and visibility.
Tyres are only half the battle. It's the ground effect that contributes the most to the spray.Took this photo at the Classic a few weeks back. It's an early 80s Tyrell so nothing like the ground effect of today. The track was nearly dry with any moisture resting below the surface of the stones in the tarmac. I'd say that around 80% or even 90% of that mist you see was thrown into the air by the car's aerodynamics rather than the tyres.
Through the long lens you could actually see the water being lifted from the road directly under the car.
StevieBee said:
sparta6 said:
F1 cars today are cutting edge, but only in decent weather. Perhaps they could benefit from a new wet tyre design to improve dispersement pattern and visibility.
Tyres are only half the battle. It's the ground effect that contributes the most to the spray.Took this photo at the Classic a few weeks back. It's an early 80s Tyrell so nothing like the ground effect of today. The track was nearly dry with any moisture resting below the surface of the stones in the tarmac. I'd say that around 80% or even 90% of that mist you see was thrown into the air by the car's aerodynamics rather than the tyres.
Through the long lens you could actually see the water being lifted from the road directly under the car.
Agree that tyres are only part of the lacking.
Partial "spray duct diffusers" must be a viable possibility for F1 designers.
It would need initiation and mandating by FIA but we are seeing more frequent wet summers globally so justified in my view.
I think his efforts with red flags this weekend have proved the OP to be correct without any doubt.
Throwing that red in quali before the car even had a chance to drive away was a crazy decision, this is F1 not kiddies play cars, a level of risk is accepted and expected, if he can't cope with that then he should be replaced.
Throwing that red in quali before the car even had a chance to drive away was a crazy decision, this is F1 not kiddies play cars, a level of risk is accepted and expected, if he can't cope with that then he should be replaced.
K50 DEL said:
I think his efforts with red flags this weekend have proved the OP to be correct without any doubt.
Throwing that red in quali before the car even had a chance to drive away was a crazy decision, this is F1 not kiddies play cars, a level of risk is accepted and expected, if he can't cope with that then he should be replaced.
They had to stop the session to rebuild the barrier - couldn't leave the advertising where it landed.Throwing that red in quali before the car even had a chance to drive away was a crazy decision, this is F1 not kiddies play cars, a level of risk is accepted and expected, if he can't cope with that then he should be replaced.
rscott said:
K50 DEL said:
I think his efforts with red flags this weekend have proved the OP to be correct without any doubt.
Throwing that red in quali before the car even had a chance to drive away was a crazy decision, this is F1 not kiddies play cars, a level of risk is accepted and expected, if he can't cope with that then he should be replaced.
They had to stop the session to rebuild the barrier - couldn't leave the advertising where it landed.Throwing that red in quali before the car even had a chance to drive away was a crazy decision, this is F1 not kiddies play cars, a level of risk is accepted and expected, if he can't cope with that then he should be replaced.
K50 DEL said:
I think his efforts with red flags this weekend have proved the OP to be correct without any doubt.
Throwing that red in quali before the car even had a chance to drive away was a crazy decision, this is F1 not kiddies play cars, a level of risk is accepted and expected, if he can't cope with that then he should be replaced.
That red saved the remaining time in the session.Throwing that red in quali before the car even had a chance to drive away was a crazy decision, this is F1 not kiddies play cars, a level of risk is accepted and expected, if he can't cope with that then he should be replaced.
Had they relied on waved yellows alone, then no-one else would have had time for a timed lap before the end of the session.
oyster said:
K50 DEL said:
I think his efforts with red flags this weekend have proved the OP to be correct without any doubt.
Throwing that red in quali before the car even had a chance to drive away was a crazy decision, this is F1 not kiddies play cars, a level of risk is accepted and expected, if he can't cope with that then he should be replaced.
That red saved the remaining time in the session.Throwing that red in quali before the car even had a chance to drive away was a crazy decision, this is F1 not kiddies play cars, a level of risk is accepted and expected, if he can't cope with that then he should be replaced.
Had they relied on waved yellows alone, then no-one else would have had time for a timed lap before the end of the session.
There's simply no point is using yellows in qualifying for any major incident. No car is allowed to set a fast sector time in a yellow sector, so if the yellow is going to be out for more than a lap they'll just pit anyway, so may as well go red and stop the clock.
In the case of Russell's crash at Zandvoort, although he managed to drive straight out of the gravel, the barrier was obviously damaged and needed to be repaired.
In the case of Russell's crash at Zandvoort, although he managed to drive straight out of the gravel, the barrier was obviously damaged and needed to be repaired.
Saw again in Brazil this guy is not up to the job. Not getting the stewards to at least investigate the incident is one big failure but then to compound it by not having the on board feed to hand. He will have to eat humble pie and back track this week otherwise he’s lost any credibility with most of the teams. Mercedes’ should sue
I have a ton of sympathy for Masi, safety is his paramount concern, and he does that well.
And now we have access to the stuff teams say to him, and we only get what is broadcastable, can you imagine dealing with the self serving, petulant little men for two and a half hours every few weeks?#
Put yourself in his position, I would spend half my time telling them to eff off.
And now we have access to the stuff teams say to him, and we only get what is broadcastable, can you imagine dealing with the self serving, petulant little men for two and a half hours every few weeks?#
Put yourself in his position, I would spend half my time telling them to eff off.
I don't think Masi, is good, and neither did I think Whiting was much better; in fact, the best race director is probably Eduardo Freitas, in the WEC; though even he has been involved in an error recently with the non penalty for the AF Corse Ferrari punting the Porsche off.....and 'winning' the GTE-Pro title...
It's the inconsistencies that bothered me.
Things like Spa are an anomaly and I highly doubt he made that decision alone, billionaires needed to be paid.
That decision this weekend was unforgivable, he's punished much less this season, he bottled it big time.
To not even investigate was contemptible.
Things like Spa are an anomaly and I highly doubt he made that decision alone, billionaires needed to be paid.
That decision this weekend was unforgivable, he's punished much less this season, he bottled it big time.
To not even investigate was contemptible.
thegreenhell said:
Why is that his fault? It's for the stewards to investigate and punish rule infringements, not the race director.
His direction to the stewards was that they must investigate such an incident. They did not, and he didn't do anything about that.He let it go... you're not supposed to do that when you hold such an influential position.
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