Jamie Chadwick - First competitive female driver in F1?

Jamie Chadwick - First competitive female driver in F1?

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ch37

10,642 posts

222 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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Fair play to Alpine, taking a science-led approach to investigating the potential issues for a female in F1 and actually doing something productive (and long-term) about it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/61963842

It's not as 'sexy' as W Series in terms of getting an immediate return of some sort on the investment, but if money is being put into this I feel this is the correct way to go about it.

RB Will

9,666 posts

241 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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It has to be fairly simple to put to bed the physical / mental ability thing.

If Chadwick is already an F1 test driver, she presumably has experience in the car, or sim as a base.

Could a team not just hire Silverstone for a day and plonk her or A.N.Other decent female driver in a 2016-2020 F1 car and get them do a full race distance within the 107% say of the equivalent years race pace or even send a bloke out with her as a pacer / rival to show overtaking / defending skills.

Cost would be nowt in the grand scheme of a F1 team. Chadwick could possibly even cover it herself with her winnings, would show her potential to F1 teams to sponsor her through F2 if she could do well.

Milkyway

9,482 posts

54 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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Regardless if she wins the Championship again, Jamie will really have to move on... for her own sake.
Three years stuck in one ‘middling’ series won’t look too good for her... even though she has dominated it from it’s inception.


Edited by Milkyway on Thursday 30th June 12:23

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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Look at all the youngsters in F3, all the drivers at the sharp end of the championship are already signed as F1 junior drivers. Why would they want to sponsor Jamie when they already have a selection of much better and much younger drivers on their books?

She actually has enough super licence points to drive in free practice, if Williams thought she was any good they would let her have a go. Sauber let Robert Kubica have a go in Barcelona and he has zero hope of ever racing in F1 again.

I think everyone is so obsessed about a having a female driver in F1 they are overlooking the fact that she just isn't good enough and that there are 100 other male drivers out there who are better than her who are not going to make the cut either, yet you never hear about those.


Milkyway

9,482 posts

54 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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Very true, as there are a couple in the British F4 Championship who are on the F1 books...as well as all those in the other Championships.
Not being disrespectful, but JC isn’t getting any younger. .. eighteen these days & you are looking at competing in a top level Championship.

Edited by Milkyway on Thursday 30th June 13:39

RobGT81

5,229 posts

187 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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Good interview with Sophia Floersch, still wants to do single seaters but sounds a bit more realistic about it. I can see her bagging a factory Hypercar/LMDH drive in the near future. Winning Le Mans outright would be much bigger than winning W Series over and over.

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2022/06/30/sophia-f...

ch37

10,642 posts

222 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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RobGT81 said:
Good interview with Sophia Floersch, still wants to do single seaters but sounds a bit more realistic about it. I can see her bagging a factory Hypercar/LMDH drive in the near future. Winning Le Mans outright would be much bigger than winning W Series over and over.

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2022/06/30/sophia-f...
She seems to have put herself in a decent position to have a crack at LM in the future, loads of time on her side to do that too. I was At Le Mans and following her progress, as she said herself she was at the very sharp end of silver drivers and had it not been for the issue at the start they were in for a hell of a shout in a ultra competitive category.

JonChalk

6,469 posts

111 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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Milkyway said:
Very true, as there are a couple in the British F4 Championship who are on the F1 books...as well as all those in the other Championships.
Not being disrespectful, but JC isn’t getting any younger. .. eighteen these days & you are looking at competing in a top level Championship.

Edited by Milkyway on Thursday 30th June 13:39
Megan Gilkes looks good in GB4 too - saw her win a tight race at Donington & she's at least won a race this season, which the championship leader can't lay claim to. Only 3 drivers have won races in this season, and she's one of them.

(edit: you may have meant GB4 with British F4 reference, sorry!)

Milkyway

9,482 posts

54 months

Friday 1st July 2022
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Alpine stating that they aim to get a Female into F1... within ten years. scratchchin
( so there is some hope for a young Karter out there)

UVB-76

222 posts

181 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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Just watched the last W series race on a big screen in Hue Vietnam.
Can't see what the fuss is about, entertaining and nice to see two brits on the podium. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence can see this is miles off F1 but its early days and I enjoyed it. Will watch again.

satfinal

2,622 posts

163 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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In non-cost cap news, W series has been cancelled for the rest of the season (2 races), Chadwick wins again.

rjfp1962

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7,769 posts

74 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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satfinal said:
In non-cost cap news, W series has been cancelled for the rest of the season (2 races), Chadwick wins again.
Am I right in saying it may not return next year either due to lack of funding?

mw88

1,457 posts

112 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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satfinal said:
In non-cost cap news, W series has been cancelled for the rest of the season (2 races), Chadwick wins again.
Wonder if they have enough cash to give her the prize money?

TheDeuce

21,821 posts

67 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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satfinal said:
In non-cost cap news, W series has been cancelled for the rest of the season (2 races), Chadwick wins again.
I suppose running out of money is a form of cost cap.

Bit tragic though and doesn't help me take the series very seriously. I have tried to watch but it just doesn't grab me - I think because there's no natural progression for the winners towards F2 then maybe one day F1.

Dal3D

1,178 posts

152 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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Catherine Bond Muir the CEO was on TV explaining that the funding they had in place to end the season was pulled out from them at the last minute meaning they couldn't finish the season. She also said that they made the decision to safeguard the beginning of next season and hopefully get all the funding more in place.
The driver's don't need and sponsorship to join the championship as it's all paid for by the WSeries so probably quite a bill.

Cold

15,254 posts

91 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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Congratulations to Chadwick for another championship, but it's a shame this project has ended prematurely. Racing is an expensive indulgence.

Diderot

7,339 posts

193 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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I think the very least the FIA could do is to underwrite this season and keep it going. It’s a bloody disgrace given the money washing around. What “unimaginably” short termism is going on here after everything we have all been through over the past 5 years(me too) (and before the suffragettes)? Women can and absolutely should compete at the highest echelons of motorsport, and as they did in previous generations, in F1. It’s a meritocracy not what your gender is. Give Jamie and her peers a bloody chance. If they can’t compete then that’s a different matter. Give this amazing generation of women drivers a chance.

On another note, surely all the F1 teams should step in as a gesture, as they all profess to ‘race as one’. Let them all allow women drivers to do F1 FP1s and put the money where their mouths is. Of course they won’t.

What kind of signal does this lamentable state of affairs send out the next generation? - oh yes, if you’re a woman there’s no money in it, no sponsorship and and no *real* interest from the FIA.

Sorry state of affairs IMO.



Diderot

7,339 posts

193 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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jsf said:
They are not good enough. What is so hard to understand.

One day we may see a good enough female driver, in which case they would be a marketing goldmine, none of these women are that.
How do we know JSF? When was the last time you saw a female driver in an FP1 session?

markiii

3,631 posts

195 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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They can compete in any other mixed series on merit, not sure what the issue is?

Cold

15,254 posts

91 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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jsf said:
They are not good enough. What is so hard to understand.

One day we may see a good enough female driver, in which case they would be a marketing goldmine, none of these women are that.
They aren't good enough for the W Series? Seems a bit of a stretch, that.