Will Max crash into Lewis on the last race just to win?

Will Max crash into Lewis on the last race just to win?

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Tommo87

2,599 posts

85 months

Monday 22nd November
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I think Yes.

To this point, I count 13x YES votes, 1x NO and 1x maybe.

So much, for the claimed minority viewpoint.

wevster

583 posts

129 months

Monday 22nd November
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Yes

Teddy Lop

6,094 posts

39 months

Monday 22nd November
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For sure.

I'd love for Lewis to take a points lead next race so max can't play the crash card

Jasandjules

66,956 posts

201 months

Monday 22nd November
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He tried in Brazil. So yes. Sadly.

Sandpit Steve

4,741 posts

46 months

Monday 22nd November
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Teddy Lop said:
For sure.

I'd love for Lewis to take a points lead next race so max can't play the crash card
Yep, come on Valtteri and take some points off Max in Jeddah.

sandman77

1,875 posts

110 months

Monday 22nd November
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Nope. The last person who tried to win a championship this way was disqualified from the whole season. Not even max would be that stupid.

Evanivitch

11,513 posts

94 months

Monday 22nd November
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sandman77 said:
Nope. The last person who tried to win a championship this way was disqualified from the whole season. Not even max would be that stupid.
Key word being "tried". When he failed in 1997 and JV won the title it was an easy decision to wipe all MS's points.

In 1994 however, it worked out perfectly for him.

HTP99

18,882 posts

112 months

Monday 22nd November
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I don't think he will attempt anything obvious and brazen such as the Senna, Prost coming together, he isn't that stupid and he will without doubt be chucked out of the championship if he did so.

However he may try one of his dodgy defences, like Brazil or may try and send his car up the inside whilst carrying way too much speed but I think Hamilton will be wise to either of these.

Personally I reckon Hamilton will romp home from pole in the next 2 races and it will be a bit of an anticlimax in terms of on track excitement.

sandman77

1,875 posts

110 months

Monday 22nd November
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Evanivitch said:
Key word being "tried". When he failed in 1997 and JV won the title it was an easy decision to wipe all MS's points.

In 1994 however, it worked out perfectly for him.
It did but I think 97 was a clear decision to show that this type of thing would be longer be tolerated in the sport.

ntiz

1,773 posts

108 months

Monday 22nd November
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It depends really. I don’t think he would outright turn into him or anything like that.

But I do think he would do what he does quite a lot anyway, just try and pull a move that either ends in a crash or him in front. Although in the last race with a title on the line i think he would go to another level with it. Like just shove it up the inside with attitude of either I’m spearing you off the road or making it.

Megaflow

7,843 posts

197 months

Monday 22nd November
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Absolutely. He tried it in Brazil, but Hamilton is wise to his dirty tricks now.

Largechris

463 posts

63 months

Monday 22nd November
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sandman77 said:
Evanivitch said:
Key word being "tried". When he failed in 1997 and JV won the title it was an easy decision to wipe all MS's points.

In 1994 however, it worked out perfectly for him.
It did but I think 97 was a clear decision to show that this type of thing would be longer be tolerated in the sport.
You did watch Brazil didn't you?

PhilAsia

274 posts

47 months

Monday 22nd November
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Prior performance culminated in "This is what happens when you don't leave space" when the situation benefitted him...

Not a nice thing to have to point out, but indicated intent. That, or inability to seek an outcome that did not involve a collision.

jesusbuiltmycar

4,177 posts

226 months

Monday 22nd November
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sandman77 said:
Evanivitch said:
Key word being "tried". When he failed in 1997 and JV won the title it was an easy decision to wipe all MS's points.

In 1994 however, it worked out perfectly for him.
It did but I think 97 was a clear decision to show that this type of thing would be longer be tolerated in the sport.
He kept all of his wins from that season so the punishment was pathetic.

Hungrymc

5,432 posts

109 months

Monday 22nd November
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I'm going NO

So much focus on these two, so much information available to analyze any incident. And so much discussion and interrogation of the stewards and race direction... I don't think any bad and decisive moves either way (Lewis may be in the lead by then) would go unpunished.

Munter

30,919 posts

213 months

Monday 22nd November
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Megaflow said:
Absolutely. He tried it in Brazil, but Hamilton is wise to his dirty tricks now.
As demonstrated in WEC GT this year though. "Oh terribly sorry out braked myself and bumped the back of your car....the championship? Oh yes I guess I win that now I accidentally punted you off".

I can see Max just "accidentally" ramming into a rear tyre of the Merc. Screws the Merc, he pops in for a new nose. Job jobbed.

Mutts

236 posts

130 months

Monday 22nd November
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Probably yes and if he did do it and was found out to have done it on purpose then take away not only his points but all the constructors points he'd won as well. Should make Horner and Marko really happy

LukeBrown66

1,448 posts

18 months

Monday 22nd November
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It has happened before numerous times obviously, but with far less coverage from FOM and far less data available, so if it happened again I would imagine Max would be very heavily penalised perhaps even have point deduced to make Lewis champion.

The application of rules seems to be more important to FOM than anything else right now and if Max went too far I would hope he doesnt, but if so the penalties would be very draconian even for 2022.

super7

1,050 posts

180 months

Monday 22nd November
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Yep... so Verstappen takes Hamilton out, quite obviously because he's not subtle about any of this, then he'll get disqualified from the championship. Just like Schumacher in 1997 against Villeneuve. A precedent has already been set for this behaviour.

jimPH

2,786 posts

52 months

Monday 22nd November
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I think it will be a strategy tyre call.

For instance, at Qatar, RB should have gone 2 stops in the hope merc would destroy their tyres first. Or go long and get a VSC/luck of hang on till the end like Alonso.