Will Max crash into Lewis on the last race just to win?

Will Max crash into Lewis on the last race just to win?

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Tommo87

4,209 posts

113 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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I think Yes.

To this point, I count 13x YES votes, 1x NO and 1x maybe.

So much, for the claimed minority viewpoint.

wevster

764 posts

157 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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Yes

Teddy Lop

8,294 posts

67 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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For sure.

I'd love for Lewis to take a points lead next race so max can't play the crash card

Jasandjules

69,868 posts

229 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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He tried in Brazil. So yes. Sadly.

Sandpit Steve

9,983 posts

74 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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Teddy Lop said:
For sure.

I'd love for Lewis to take a points lead next race so max can't play the crash card
Yep, come on Valtteri and take some points off Max in Jeddah.

sandman77

2,405 posts

138 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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Nope. The last person who tried to win a championship this way was disqualified from the whole season. Not even max would be that stupid.

Evanivitch

20,032 posts

122 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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sandman77 said:
Nope. The last person who tried to win a championship this way was disqualified from the whole season. Not even max would be that stupid.
Key word being "tried". When he failed in 1997 and JV won the title it was an easy decision to wipe all MS's points.

In 1994 however, it worked out perfectly for him.

HTP99

22,530 posts

140 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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I don't think he will attempt anything obvious and brazen such as the Senna, Prost coming together, he isn't that stupid and he will without doubt be chucked out of the championship if he did so.

However he may try one of his dodgy defences, like Brazil or may try and send his car up the inside whilst carrying way too much speed but I think Hamilton will be wise to either of these.

Personally I reckon Hamilton will romp home from pole in the next 2 races and it will be a bit of an anticlimax in terms of on track excitement.

sandman77

2,405 posts

138 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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Evanivitch said:
Key word being "tried". When he failed in 1997 and JV won the title it was an easy decision to wipe all MS's points.

In 1994 however, it worked out perfectly for him.
It did but I think 97 was a clear decision to show that this type of thing would be longer be tolerated in the sport.

ntiz

2,337 posts

136 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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It depends really. I don’t think he would outright turn into him or anything like that.

But I do think he would do what he does quite a lot anyway, just try and pull a move that either ends in a crash or him in front. Although in the last race with a title on the line i think he would go to another level with it. Like just shove it up the inside with attitude of either I’m spearing you off the road or making it.

Megaflow

9,386 posts

225 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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Absolutely. He tried it in Brazil, but Hamilton is wise to his dirty tricks now.

Largechris

2,019 posts

91 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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sandman77 said:
Evanivitch said:
Key word being "tried". When he failed in 1997 and JV won the title it was an easy decision to wipe all MS's points.

In 1994 however, it worked out perfectly for him.
It did but I think 97 was a clear decision to show that this type of thing would be longer be tolerated in the sport.
You did watch Brazil didn't you?

PhilAsia

3,789 posts

75 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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Prior performance culminated in "This is what happens when you don't leave space" when the situation benefitted him...

Not a nice thing to have to point out, but indicated intent. That, or inability to seek an outcome that did not involve a collision.

jesusbuiltmycar

4,536 posts

254 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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sandman77 said:
Evanivitch said:
Key word being "tried". When he failed in 1997 and JV won the title it was an easy decision to wipe all MS's points.

In 1994 however, it worked out perfectly for him.
It did but I think 97 was a clear decision to show that this type of thing would be longer be tolerated in the sport.
He kept all of his wins from that season so the punishment was pathetic.

Hungrymc

6,650 posts

137 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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I'm going NO

So much focus on these two, so much information available to analyze any incident. And so much discussion and interrogation of the stewards and race direction... I don't think any bad and decisive moves either way (Lewis may be in the lead by then) would go unpunished.

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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Megaflow said:
Absolutely. He tried it in Brazil, but Hamilton is wise to his dirty tricks now.
As demonstrated in WEC GT this year though. "Oh terribly sorry out braked myself and bumped the back of your car....the championship? Oh yes I guess I win that now I accidentally punted you off".

I can see Max just "accidentally" ramming into a rear tyre of the Merc. Screws the Merc, he pops in for a new nose. Job jobbed.

Mutts

285 posts

158 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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Probably yes and if he did do it and was found out to have done it on purpose then take away not only his points but all the constructors points he'd won as well. Should make Horner and Marko really happy

LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

46 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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It has happened before numerous times obviously, but with far less coverage from FOM and far less data available, so if it happened again I would imagine Max would be very heavily penalised perhaps even have point deduced to make Lewis champion.

The application of rules seems to be more important to FOM than anything else right now and if Max went too far I would hope he doesnt, but if so the penalties would be very draconian even for 2022.

super7

1,932 posts

208 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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Yep... so Verstappen takes Hamilton out, quite obviously because he's not subtle about any of this, then he'll get disqualified from the championship. Just like Schumacher in 1997 against Villeneuve. A precedent has already been set for this behaviour.

jimPH

3,981 posts

80 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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I think it will be a strategy tyre call.

For instance, at Qatar, RB should have gone 2 stops in the hope merc would destroy their tyres first. Or go long and get a VSC/luck of hang on till the end like Alonso.