Will Max crash into Lewis on the last race just to win?

Will Max crash into Lewis on the last race just to win?

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talksthetorque

9,697 posts

107 months

Tuesday 23rd November
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Interesting comparison with Silverstone and Brazil.
Silverstone, Lewis Understeered wide Max forced wider ( biggrin ) pen for Hamilton
Brazil, Max "understeered" wide, Lewis forced wider, No pen for Verstappen.

I don't think he would deliberately crash. I think he would give Lewis the choice, crash or end up behind me.
But I don't remember any pinch points at Abu Dhabi where you could stick it up the inside and cause grief to the car taking a wider line.........



Flooble

4,334 posts

72 months

Tuesday 23rd November
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That's just a driver who got confused by the race engineer's new fad for telling them to swap places with their team mate by saying "invert the cars"

Sandpit Steve

4,741 posts

46 months

Tuesday 23rd November
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talksthetorque said:
Interesting comparison with Silverstone and Brazil.
Silverstone, Lewis Understeered wide Max forced wider ( biggrin ) pen for Hamilton
Brazil, Max "understeered" wide, Lewis forced wider, No pen for Verstappen.

I don't think he would deliberately crash. I think he would give Lewis the choice, crash or end up behind me.
But I don't remember any pinch points at Abu Dhabi where you could stick it up the inside and cause grief to the car taking a wider line.........

That’s about 20 metres from where I’m going to be sitting on the last day of the season, with camera in hand… biggrin

MustangGT

9,195 posts

252 months

Tuesday 23rd November
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PhilAsia said:
Not sure Max "turned in" on Lewis at Copse. My view is he held a tight line and Lewis understeered into Max. Max should have been more circumspect and given racing room, as Lewis should have reeled it in more and avoided the contact.

The contact came from Lewis IMHO (predominantly to blame), but Max should have been over in the favelas as Lewis was in Brazil (partially to blame).
Go watch the in-car footage, Max clearly turned into Lewis.

rampageturke

1,393 posts

134 months

Tuesday 23rd November
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Hamilton fans want max to crash into lewis so that max to win the championship and not lewis. And so they can say "Ha, i'm right!!"

trying to wrap my head around this. you guys are weird

Joey Deacon

4,639 posts

148 months

Tuesday 23rd November
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I am pretty sure Lewis is going to win the next one with Max second so they will go into the last race on equal points depending on how the fastest lap works out.

If Max is in the lead and Lewis goes to overtake, how much room do we think he is going to give him.

If Lewis is in the lead and max gets close enough, is he going to go for a massively over optimistic lunge up the inside?

To be honest I think Max will get nowhere near Lewis in the last race and it will be a boring conclusion to Lewis winning the title.

BoRED S2upid

16,899 posts

212 months

Tuesday 23rd November
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Yes without a doubt could be his only chance for a while who knows what happens with the new regs.

Tommo87

2,599 posts

85 months

Tuesday 23rd November
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rampageturke said:
Hamilton fans want max to crash into lewis so that max to win the championship and not lewis. And so they can say "Ha, i'm right!!"

trying to wrap my head around this. you guys are weird
That’s just your post op meds talking.

cjm

487 posts

240 months

Tuesday 23rd November
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yes

Wills2

18,721 posts

147 months

Tuesday 23rd November
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Mr Tidy said:
sly fox said:
Yes,

after all, Hamilton did it to him at Silverstone.
I'm sure he will given the chance.

But you must have watched a different race at Silverstone to the one I saw where Max turned in on Lewis despite being left some room!

Max didn't even manage to stay on track in Brazil when he was running Lewis off the track. banghead
Exactly the more I watch that incident more laughable that steward's decision looks, Max turned in to a car he knew was there when they was room to his left.



jsf

24,256 posts

208 months

Tuesday 23rd November
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rampageturke said:
Hamilton fans want max to crash into lewis so that max to win the championship and not lewis. And so they can say "Ha, i'm right!!"

trying to wrap my head around this. you guys are weird
And you're unhinged.

hot metal

1,577 posts

165 months

Tuesday 23rd November
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Wills2 said:
Exactly the more I watch that incident more laughable that steward's decision looks, Max turned in to a car he knew was there when they was room to his left.



Which race are you talking about ??

MustangGT

9,195 posts

252 months

Tuesday 23rd November
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hot metal said:
Wills2 said:
Exactly the more I watch that incident more laughable that steward's decision looks, Max turned in to a car he knew was there when they was room to his left.

Which race are you talking about ??
Silverstone.

I am wondering whether Max realised he was going too fast to make the corner and thought he would try to take Lewis out as well?


Angpozzuto

573 posts

81 months

Tuesday 23rd November
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There's been so much talk about dirty driving deciding the championship but my gut feeling is that it'll be decided by an engine failure. They've both been pretty reliable so far someone's due a blown engine

Mr Spoon

Original Poster:

722 posts

10 months

Tuesday 23rd November
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Dirt driving is the best. Just unusual for tarmac, usually the drivers keep it on the black stuff.

hot metal

1,577 posts

165 months

Wednesday 24th November
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Never got into the Silverstone argument, Lewis was fed up of taking st off Max, Max tried to run him off the road twice prior to that corner & several times earlier in the season, you cannot own every corner with a faster car approaching and expect nothing to happen.

Gary C

8,929 posts

151 months

Wednesday 24th November
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Sandpit Steve said:
That’s about 20 metres from where I’m going to be sitting on the last day of the season, with camera in hand… biggrin
Enjoy

Abu Dhabi GP is actually good fun to watch live, nice and warm, lots of beer on circuit, mad dash across the carpark for a taxi, great fun smile

We were there for the double points race, sat with a bunch of Germans who's excitement stirred up during quali somewhat faded half way through Lap 1 smile

Anyway, I agree with others.

Max won't do a Schmacher on Villeneuve type of crash, but he would easily do a Senna on Prost at Suzuka 1990 (and/or 89 wink )

Edited by Gary C on Wednesday 24th November 06:17

rampageturke

1,393 posts

134 months

Wednesday 24th November
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jsf said:
And you're unhinged.
I'm not the one gagging for a crash.

Oilchange

7,600 posts

232 months

Wednesday 24th November
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I'm hoping someone has told Max that if he tries to crash to prevent Hamilton beating him, he will gain a 50 point penalty or something but I suspect they haven't.
If Verstappen can't beat Hamilton through pure racecraft then he shouldn't be awarded the championship by crashing in my opinion.

Sandpit Steve

4,741 posts

46 months

Wednesday 24th November
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Gary C said:
Sandpit Steve said:
That’s about 20 metres from where I’m going to be sitting on the last day of the season, with camera in hand… biggrin
Enjoy

Abu Dhabi GP is actually good fun to watch live, nice and warm, lots of beer on circuit, mad dash across the carpark for a taxi, great fun smile

We were there for the double points race, sat with a bunch of Germans who's excitement stirred up during quali somewhat faded half way through Lap 1 smile

Anyway, I agree with others.

Max won't do a Schmacher on Villeneuve type of crash, but he would easily do a Senna on Prost at Suzuka 1990 (and/or 89 wink )

Edited by Gary C on Wednesday 24th November 06:17
Yes, it’s a good atmosphere in the stands there, something of a contrast to the sparsely attended races elsewhere in the Middle East.

I’ve been a few times (live down the road in Dubai), the most memorable was in 2016 when the championship was last decided, as Lewis failed to back Nico into Seb.

Awesome after-race concerts too, Foo Fighters headlining Sunday this year, have seen everyone from Paul McCartney to Kylie Minogue to Eminem over the years.