Who is going to win WDC / WCC and why?

Who is going to win WDC / WCC and why?

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BrettMRC

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2,253 posts

132 months

Wednesday 24th November
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Seems to be plenty of chat around the drivers and the personalities involved, car legality etc on several threads - no option for a poll, but my thoughts are:

WDC: Lewis Hamilton
WCC: Redbull

If you had asked me a few weeks ago, (and I said it on a thread here) I didn't think Mercedes would win again on merit; they have proven that wrong in style!

With Bottas seemingly aiming to get gardening leave I can't see Mercedes retaining the WCC though.

What do you think?

Edited by BrettMRC on Wednesday 24th November 14:04

Kevin Cozner

642 posts

76 months

Wednesday 24th November
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WDC: Max. Lewis needs everything to go perfectly but "in Formula 1 anything can happen, and usually does".

WCC: RB, as Perez is in better form than Bottas.

Hobo

5,051 posts

218 months

Wednesday 24th November
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No idea, but managed to secure a package consisting of 5 nights at Atlantis, tickets for practice day, qualifying and race day (Yas Marina) along with grandstand passes, return flights from Heathrow for less than £1,500.00.

Can't wait, will be epic smile Never been to a F1 race before

Joey Deacon

4,639 posts

148 months

Wednesday 24th November
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BrettMRC said:
WDC: Lewis Hamilton
WCC: Redbull
Agree, I think Lewis will win the next race like he did the last one with Max unable to get near to him. This will mean they go into the last race on equal points and Hamilton will again get pole and lead the whole race, a boring conclusion to the season. That is unless Max does a Senna, goes for an impossible overtake on the first corner and takes them both out.


HTP99

18,882 posts

112 months

Wednesday 24th November
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WDC: Lewis, he has been here many times before, has a monster of a car now and is far cleverer and calm that Max
WCC: Red Bull as they have Perez, Bottas just cannot be relied upon and will likely go to sleep as he tends to.

HustleRussell

20,512 posts

132 months

Wednesday 24th November
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I think Mercedes are going to do both no probs. I think they have the better car for the final few rounds in the middle East. I think they have a strategy with their engines which is going to allow them to stun Red Bull. We know Hamilton has a 'spicy' engine for the final two rounds but Bottas must have a deep pool to draw from too.

People are saying Perez is going to do it for Red Bull but he qualified 11th at the weekend with no explanation. Bottas should've started 3rd but for the penalty.

The behavior of Red Bull management betrays that they feel as though they're on the back foot. Their constant empty protests is beginning to look like excuses and management of expectations.

geeks

7,202 posts

111 months

Wednesday 24th November
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Lewis and Merc..

Not because I am a fan but simply cos no one else has picked that yet hehe

kurokawa

251 posts

80 months

Wednesday 24th November
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WDC: Lewis Hamilton
Lewis is not far behind of point, and Max inexperience in the mentality could seriously harm him as the pressure grow

WCC: Redbull
Bottas just seem to lose the will to fight

HustleRussell

20,512 posts

132 months

Wednesday 24th November
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I don't like Red Bull but I'd quite like them to win the WCC for Honda's sake.

North West Tom

11,204 posts

149 months

Wednesday 24th November
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geeks said:
Lewis and Merc..

Not because I am a fan but simply cos no one else has picked that yet hehe
I can't believe you're the first to say it. It's obvious to me.

HustleRussell

20,512 posts

132 months

Wednesday 24th November
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North West Tom said:
geeks said:
Lewis and Merc..

Not because I am a fan but simply cos no one else has picked that yet hehe
I can't believe you're the first to say it. It's obvious to me.
He wasn't wink

Muzzer79

5,643 posts

159 months

Wednesday 24th November
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WDC - Verstappen

Mercedes have found some speed but it's been a roller-coaster in terms of form.


WCC - Mercedes

I can't see Perez consistently delivering the third places he realistically needs to achieve.

HustleRussell

20,512 posts

132 months

Wednesday 24th November
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Two races out. Twelve posts into the thread and we have had every feasible combination predicted. None are a stretch of the imagination.

What a season!

thegreenhell

9,854 posts

191 months

Wednesday 24th November
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Hamilton and Mercedes - because they will score more points than the other guys.

Jasandjules

66,956 posts

201 months

Wednesday 24th November
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WDC - Lewis. I think that barring any "accidental" collision, the Merc engine is going to romp off into the distance at the next two races.
WCC - Red Bull. Bottas keeps falling back whilst Sergio is romping forward...

rampageturke

1,393 posts

134 months

Wednesday 24th November
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Not a big Hamilton supporter (but I respect him) but I think he will clinch it, the changes to abu dhabi are maybe in mercs favour, and Saudi imo is looking like a merc track.

Of course, all it takes is one pitstop error and it flips completely.

WCC? couldnt care less really.

Sandpit Steve

4,741 posts

46 months

Wednesday 24th November
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Hobo said:
No idea, but managed to secure a package consisting of 5 nights at Atlantis, tickets for practice day, qualifying and race day (Yas Marina) along with grandstand passes, return flights from Heathrow for less than £1,500.00.

Can't wait, will be epic smile Never been to a F1 race before
That’s an awesome deal. The grandstand tickets are going for close to £500 on their own, and Atlantis is a very nice place to spend a few days…

Maybe I’ll start a “PHers going to the last race” thread, and we can all arrange to go for a beer at some point during the weekend?

On Topic, I think the momentum is with Mercedes and Lewis, they have the quickest car and the last two circuits are likely to favour them.

Edited by Sandpit Steve on Wednesday 24th November 14:56

thegreenhell

9,854 posts

191 months

Wednesday 24th November
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If Lewis wins the next two races then it is almost certain that Mercedes will also win the WCC, baring non finishes for any reason.

Mercedes currently have a 5 point lead. Lewis 1st, Max 2nd, x2 would extend that advantage to 19 points. This means that Sergio needs to take 20 points more than Valtteri in two races, with only 3rd place and fastest lap points available to him. The absolute best he can do is 32 points, so Vaterri only needs 13 points at most from the last two races if Lewis wins them both for Mercedes to be WCC champions. If Mercedes can also get a fastest lap in one of the two races, then Valtteri only needs one 4th place or two 7th place finishes if Lewis wins both.

cgt2

2,321 posts

160 months

Wednesday 24th November
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I would think Lewis but then after remembering 2007, 2012 (which still hurts) and 2016 I'm going to say Max as in each of the above cases the driver who seemed a dead cert ended up not winning in the final round.

WCC is entirely dependent on Bottas and Perez. Bottas qualifies better and goes backwards, Perez qualifies worse and moves forwards. So it's a complete coin toss.

angrymoby

1,638 posts

150 months

Wednesday 24th November
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Lewis & Merc

Merc have finally got their floor working, plus engine reliability issues figured/sorted on tracks that should suit their cars ...giving them at least a 0.5s advantage in Lewis's hands & 3/10ths in Valtteri's- so even if they get off the line poorly they'll reel in whoever passed them

so i'm predicting boring Merc 1-2's in both races, with the 1-2 in Jeddah eliminating any chance of shenanigans in Abu, i'd even go as far as Max getting frustrated in the next quali or race & binning it, making Abu even more of an anti-climax

not that i got my last 2 predictions right smile