Mercedes problem!
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Jasandjules said:
Derek Smith said:
Lots of suggestions LH is going to leave Merc for 'another' team.
Not a chance.With driver salaries now outside the tightening budget cap, could the Ferrari board pull off some audacious move to pay LH $100m a season? Because that’s the only way it’s happening.
I believe that Lewis is a reasonable person.
And so I feel certain that if Mercedes feel confident that their future is safe in the hands of George , then Lewis would prefer to move on and enjoy the rest of his life content in the knowledge that he did his very best for the team and their sponsors.
What you see is what you get, and so the possibility of him moving to another team for a quick buck seems highly unlikely.
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And so I feel certain that if Mercedes feel confident that their future is safe in the hands of George , then Lewis would prefer to move on and enjoy the rest of his life content in the knowledge that he did his very best for the team and their sponsors.
What you see is what you get, and so the possibility of him moving to another team for a quick buck seems highly unlikely.
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I couldn't see Senna leave McLaren, not, come to that, Hamilton leaving McLaren, especially considering what he owed to Dennis.
I think the odds are well against him moving to another team, but it is far from impossible. To drive for Ferrari - wow! To drive for Ferrari when they have a frontline car is even wower. Just his final season he will tell himself.
I think the odds are well against him moving to another team, but it is far from impossible. To drive for Ferrari - wow! To drive for Ferrari when they have a frontline car is even wower. Just his final season he will tell himself.
I do not see him moving from MB. Lewis only made the move to them because of the potential of the package that they offered and more opportunity for input. I believe his loyalty will keep him there.
RBR is out of the question. Ferrari is also, to my mind - whilst I feel he has a slight advantage over Russell this season, he may be on equal standing next season. He is getting to the end of his career and it will begin to show. A move to Ferrari, and going up against an already entrenched Le Clercke (popcorn
), will only highlight any lessening of performance he may have in his final seasons and his time of getting to know a new team.
RBR is out of the question. Ferrari is also, to my mind - whilst I feel he has a slight advantage over Russell this season, he may be on equal standing next season. He is getting to the end of his career and it will begin to show. A move to Ferrari, and going up against an already entrenched Le Clercke (popcorn
), will only highlight any lessening of performance he may have in his final seasons and his time of getting to know a new team.PhilAsia said:
I do not see him moving from MB. Lewis only made the move to them because of the potential of the package that they offered and more opportunity for input. I believe his loyalty will keep him there.
Loyalty didn't keep him with Dennis, despite what the chap did for him. Fair enough, he'd repaid any debt, but you could say the same thing about what he owes Merc, except more so.Doesn't every driver dream of driving a Ferrari? Despite its checkered history (me being gentle there) it's been there or thereabouts most of the time. Just one year must be tempting, although after his 8th. He'll have nothing to prove.
He, like most top-notch drivers, doesn't want the same old, or to vegetate.
As I say, I don't think it likely, but it is possible.
Derek Smith said:
PhilAsia said:
I do not see him moving from MB. Lewis only made the move to them because of the potential of the package that they offered and more opportunity for input. I believe his loyalty will keep him there.
Loyalty didn't keep him with Dennis, despite what the chap did for him. Fair enough, he'd repaid any debt, but you could say the same thing about what he owes Merc, except more so.Doesn't every driver dream of driving a Ferrari? Despite its checkered history (me being gentle there) it's been there or thereabouts most of the time. Just one year must be tempting, although after his 8th. He'll have nothing to prove.
He, like most top-notch drivers, doesn't want the same old, or to vegetate.
As I say, I don't think it likely, but it is possible.
With MB being a "known" and Ferrari often unravelling I believe he will stay put.
Edited by PhilAsia on Sunday 17th April 10:06
PhilAsia said:
Derek Smith said:
PhilAsia said:
I do not see him moving from MB. Lewis only made the move to them because of the potential of the package that they offered and more opportunity for input. I believe his loyalty will keep him there.
Loyalty didn't keep him with Dennis, despite what the chap did for him. Fair enough, he'd repaid any debt, but you could say the same thing about what he owes Merc, except more so.Doesn't every driver dream of driving a Ferrari? Despite its checkered history (me being gentle there) it's been there or thereabouts most of the time. Just one year must be tempting, although after his 8th. He'll have nothing to prove.
He, like most top-notch drivers, doesn't want the same old, or to vegetate.
As I say, I don't think it likely, but it is possible.
With MB being a "known" and Ferrari often unravelling I believe he will stay put.
Edited by PhilAsia on Sunday 17th April 10:06
Not because he won’t want to (although I also believe that’s the case) but because another top team won’t want him.
That’s in no way a slight on Hamilton, by the way.
There’s no way that any other top line team will mess up their driver strategy for one season, even for Hamilton.
Muzzer79 said:
PhilAsia said:
Derek Smith said:
PhilAsia said:
I do not see him moving from MB. Lewis only made the move to them because of the potential of the package that they offered and more opportunity for input. I believe his loyalty will keep him there.
Loyalty didn't keep him with Dennis, despite what the chap did for him. Fair enough, he'd repaid any debt, but you could say the same thing about what he owes Merc, except more so.Doesn't every driver dream of driving a Ferrari? Despite its checkered history (me being gentle there) it's been there or thereabouts most of the time. Just one year must be tempting, although after his 8th. He'll have nothing to prove.
He, like most top-notch drivers, doesn't want the same old, or to vegetate.
As I say, I don't think it likely, but it is possible.
With MB being a "known" and Ferrari often unravelling I believe he will stay put.
Edited by PhilAsia on Sunday 17th April 10:06
Not because he won’t want to (although I also believe that’s the case) but because another top team won’t want him.
That’s in no way a slight on Hamilton, by the way.
There’s no way that any other top line team will mess up their driver strategy for one season, even for Hamilton.
Lewis has proved he can win in the right car.
Max has proved he can win in the right car.
Charles has proved he can win in the right car.
Muzzer79 said:
I too don’t think there’s a snowball in hell’s chance of him moving.
Not because he won’t want to (although I also believe that’s the case) but because another top team won’t want him.
That’s in no way a slight on Hamilton, by the way.
There’s no way that any other top line team will mess up their driver strategy for one season, even for Hamilton.
What if Ferrari lose patience with Carlos Sainz? Lewis will be more than happy to be team mate to CLC than Max. Not because he won’t want to (although I also believe that’s the case) but because another top team won’t want him.
That’s in no way a slight on Hamilton, by the way.
There’s no way that any other top line team will mess up their driver strategy for one season, even for Hamilton.
The problem Lewis will eventually run into is when the height of his powers wane and having to deal with taking on a subordinate role.
stemll said:
RWTT - Restricted Wind Tunnel Testing. RATG - Restricted Aerodynamic Test Geometry
50m/s is only 180kph (112mph) and the author of the reddit I linked has interpreted the bit about relative to scale (60%) as meaning an effective scale speed of only 108kph (67mph). Either speed is a lot lower than the speeds at which they are experiencing porpoising.
It's not only that, Mercedes have had the least wind tunnel and modelling time of all the teams since the cap was introduced and have less to sort any problems. Ferrari had lot's more last season and this so far. Plus RBR and Ferrari must benefit from having junior teams and the data from their testing. 50m/s is only 180kph (112mph) and the author of the reddit I linked has interpreted the bit about relative to scale (60%) as meaning an effective scale speed of only 108kph (67mph). Either speed is a lot lower than the speeds at which they are experiencing porpoising.
Derek Smith said:
PhilAsia said:
I do not see him moving from MB. Lewis only made the move to them because of the potential of the package that they offered and more opportunity for input. I believe his loyalty will keep him there.
Loyalty didn't keep him with Dennis, despite what the chap did for him. Fair enough, he'd repaid any debt, but you could say the same thing about what he owes Merc, except more so.Doesn't every driver dream of driving a Ferrari? Despite its checkered history (me being gentle there) it's been there or thereabouts most of the time. Just one year must be tempting, although after his 8th. He'll have nothing to prove.
He, like most top-notch drivers, doesn't want the same old, or to vegetate.
As I say, I don't think it likely, but it is possible.
Lewis will retire sooner than move to another team...
PhilAsia said:
This.
Lewis has proved he can win in the right car, win in not the best car, and quite often drag a performance out of a poor car
Max has proved he can win in the right car, if everything goes his way and he has some help...
Charles has proved he can win in the right car, and drag performances out of poor cars
Fixed it for you Lewis has proved he can win in the right car, win in not the best car, and quite often drag a performance out of a poor car
Max has proved he can win in the right car, if everything goes his way and he has some help...
Charles has proved he can win in the right car, and drag performances out of poor cars
Byker28i said:
PhilAsia said:
This.
Lewis has proved he can win in the right car, win in not the best car, and quite often drag a performance out of a poor car
Max has proved he can win in the right car, if everything goes his way and he has some help...
Charles has proved he can win in the right car, and drag performances out of poor cars
Fixed it for you Lewis has proved he can win in the right car, win in not the best car, and quite often drag a performance out of a poor car
Max has proved he can win in the right car, if everything goes his way and he has some help...
Charles has proved he can win in the right car, and drag performances out of poor cars
Red bull have an issue with their fuel system. The thought is they are doing something clever with it to give them added performance at given times, maybe storing extra fuel somewhere past the meter, thats got airlocked, or failed?
Mercedes aren't cutting the floor back like other teams because they believe once they resolve the instability issue they'll have the fastest car and whilst not great, they haven't really been punished as much as they should have been so far, with errors from the other teams/drivers.
You wonder how long though until they identify the issue? Whole new rear suspension redesign?
Mercedes aren't cutting the floor back like other teams because they believe once they resolve the instability issue they'll have the fastest car and whilst not great, they haven't really been punished as much as they should have been so far, with errors from the other teams/drivers.
You wonder how long though until they identify the issue? Whole new rear suspension redesign?
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