Daniel Ricciardo

Daniel Ricciardo

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HTP99

19,933 posts

120 months

Wednesday 13th July
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F1 Nation's most recent podcast indicated that they expected him to remain next year to see his contract out.

vaud

45,321 posts

135 months

Wednesday 13th July
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Given we are mid-season, maybe the British or Austria was the trigger point in his contract, hence all the speculation.

95 fiesta si

1,594 posts

132 months

Wednesday 13th July
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DR is more keen to stay with McLaren then McLaren are. I reckon he will make the rest of this season but i'd be surprised if his in the car for 2023 regardless of his contract. Probs some sort of performance related get-out clause they can trigger, they are just sugar coating at the moment.

Edited by 95 fiesta si on Wednesday 13th July 14:09

Muzzer79

6,649 posts

167 months

Wednesday 13th July
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95 fiesta si said:
DR is more keen to stay with McLaren then McLaren are. I reckon he will make the rest of this season but i'd be surprised if his in the car for 2023 regardless of his contract. Probs some sort of performance related get-out clause they can trigger, they are just sugar coating at the moment.
I think that, if that were the case, he'd already be on his way out.

Word is that the clauses are all on Ricciardo's side. Don't forget, McLaren have wanted him since he left Red Bull at the end of 2018 and quickly needed someone strong to replace Sainz when he left for Ferrari. This bolsters the notion that the contract is weighted in his favour.

He may still move on in 2023, but he'll likely have to be paid a lot of money to do so.

ghost83

5,030 posts

170 months

Wednesday 13th July
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He announced earlier he’s staying with McLaren

patmahe

5,531 posts

184 months

Wednesday 13th July
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ghost83 said:
He announced earlier he’s staying with McLaren
So he's putting them in a position where they have to sack him if they want to get rid of him, that means buying him out of his contract. To be fair in his position that's the smart thing to do rather than just quitting.

I still wouldn't bet on him being in a McLaren next year, there's an embarrassment of talent lining up for that seat. It all depends on whether McLaren are willing to wait another year, the way Zak has been talking and evaluating drivers I doubt it.

rallycross

11,714 posts

217 months

Wednesday 13th July
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patmahe said:
So he's putting them in a position where they have to sack him if they want to get rid of him, that means buying him out of his contract. To be fair in his position that's the smart thing to do rather than just quitting.

I still wouldn't bet on him being in a McLaren next year, there's an embarrassment of talent lining up for that seat. It all depends on whether McLaren are willing to wait another year, the way Zak has been talking and evaluating drivers I doubt it.
As long as the replacement driver is self finder they can Easily afford it.

thegreenhell

11,086 posts

199 months

Wednesday 13th July
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patmahe said:
there's an embarrassment of talent lining up for that seat.
A bunch of unproven rookies in F1 terms, or a faded former champion, or someone who couldn't hack it in another big team. Those seem to be the options at the moment. And they'll still have to pay Danny's massive retainer next year whether he's driving the car or not. Tough decision.

cgt2

3,805 posts

168 months

Wednesday 13th July
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thegreenhell said:
A bunch of unproven rookies in F1 terms, or a faded former champion, or someone who couldn't hack it in another big team. Those seem to be the options at the moment. And they'll still have to pay Danny's massive retainer next year whether he's driving the car or not. Tough decision.
They can well afford it. Ferrari did with Kimi too. The question for them is if the potential upside to a driver who can score points and has marketing/sponsor value outweighs paying off Ricciardo who unless something miraculous happens will be tooling around in 12th all year.

Zak is VERY keen for a US driver. A few big American sponsors chipping in and it doesn't seem so far fetched.

American iv

454 posts

176 months

Thursday 14th July
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It's worth noting that all the language McLaren are putting out is that the drivers are on their books - they haven't announced who is driving where.

https://twitter.com/McLarenF1/status/1546998384963...
McLaren said:
¡Hola Alex! 🇪🇸

McLaren Racing welcomes #INDYCAR champion @AlexPalou
to its driver roster from 2023, as the team continues to build talent across all of its racing series. 👊

Our full driver line-up across all racing series will be confirmed in due course.
Daniel is saying similar things to - he's committed to McLaren, not McLaren F1
https://twitter.com/danielricciardo/status/1547159...

Chances are, it's all a bit of a game to drive a bit of PR out of Daniel given he's underperfoming compared to Lando.

DOCG

459 posts

34 months

Sunday 24th July
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Another embarrassing weekend for Riccardo.

Pflanzgarten

745 posts

5 months

Sunday 24th July
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DOCG said:
Another embarrassing weekend for Riccardo.
Half way through the race and within a second of Norris?

DOCG

459 posts

34 months

Sunday 24th July
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Pflanzgarten said:
Half way through the race and within a second of Norris?
Exactly. Once again bested by a much younger and inexperienced driver.

Piginapoke

3,579 posts

165 months

Sunday 24th July
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Pflanzgarten said:
DOCG said:
Another embarrassing weekend for Riccardo.
Half way through the race and within a second of Norris?
Only after the Safety Car

nismo48

1,115 posts

187 months

Sunday 24th July
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+1 thumbup

TheDeuce said:
entropy said:
Ricciardo has had problems adapting to different cars.

The Renault had a peculiar handling trait - confirmed by Hulk - that's been there for a number of years.

In the McLaren it's to do with the braking and carrying speed into the corner; Lando carries a lot of speed into the corner.
DR is kind of famous for also late braking and carrying a lot of speed into the corner too though.

That's not to say the car inspires the same level of confidence on the brakes he was used too previously I suppose.

I still think he's showing flashes of talent in the McLaren and will hopefully get back on top of his driving in a consistent way.

PhillipM

6,042 posts

169 months

Sunday 24th July
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Pflanzgarten said:
Half way through the race and within a second of Norris?
With Norris's car compromised by a huge chunk of crash debris stuck under the floor. Much as I like Daniel he's really not getting to grips with these cars.

Pflanzgarten

745 posts

5 months

Monday 25th July
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PhillipM said:
Pflanzgarten said:
Half way through the race and within a second of Norris?
With Norris's car compromised by a huge chunk of crash debris stuck under the floor. Much as I like Daniel he's really not getting to grips with these cars.
Ah I wasn’t aware of that.

Dermot O'Logical

1,656 posts

109 months

Monday 25th July
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Sky claimed a quote from Andreas Seidl which confirmed that Ricciardo would stay with McLaren for 2023.

Given the options available to them, even though McLaren must be operating on more of a shoestring than other teams, budget cap notwithstanding, and the fact that the "quote" was unconfirmed, this came as a bit of a surprise.

As mentioned before, Ricciardo's driving style doesn't necessarily suit the bigger, heavier cars, but he still managed to win at Monza last year.

This saga has a way to run yet, I suspect.

cgt2

3,805 posts

168 months

Monday 25th July
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Dermot O'Logical said:
but he still managed to win at Monza last year.
When Norris was told not to race him and obey team orders..

Muzzer79

6,649 posts

167 months

Monday 25th July
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DOCG said:
Another embarrassing weekend for Riccardo.
Which one?

I saw a weekend where he was within a tenth and a half of Norris in qualifying, with the same margin between their fastest race laps.