Naomi Schiff

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HighwayStar

4,245 posts

144 months

Sunday 12th June 2022
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cgt2 said:
Still love to know what Danica Patrick was excellent at. She was the worst co-presenter they have had for awhile with painful lack of knowledge. Compared to her Naomi is Magnus Magnusson.
You know you’re not likely to get a reply to that…

WonkeyDonkey

2,338 posts

103 months

Sunday 12th June 2022
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Are there any pundits that are more than just filler?

I don't tend to really watch much of the pre/post race of the F1 but I caught a bit after quali and she seemed no better or worse than the rest of them.

cgt2

7,099 posts

188 months

Sunday 12th June 2022
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WonkeyDonkey said:
Are there any pundits that are more than just filler?

I don't tend to really watch much of the pre/post race of the F1 but I caught a bit after quali and she seemed no better or worse than the rest of them.
F1TV seem to be doing better these days, Buxton apart. Sam Collins is fantastic with his technical knowledge and ability to explain things (though the OP probably won't like him). Probably the best of all.

Rosanna has a charming personality and also explains things well and like Naomi it's refreshing to see genuine enthusiasm.

Baretto is a bit strange but he knows his stuff. Jolyon Palmer is a bit dry but clearly understands the psychology of drivers. They also bring in McNish every now and then. I can see the overall cohesion of their package being quite an improvement on Sky once they get the pieces into place and I will be switching my contract.

Jonstar

866 posts

191 months

Sunday 12th June 2022
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HighwayStar said:
You know you’re not likely to get a reply to that…
I would be interested in the answer to this too...

heebeegeetee

28,672 posts

248 months

Sunday 12th June 2022
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HighwayStar said:
cc3 said:
Is it me or is she one of the worst hires Sky have made. Seems to offer very little in terms of insight into F1. Just seems to repeat back the question in a different way when asked for her opinion.

At Miami Danica Patrick was excellent

Never watched her programme on Monday night any good ?
cc3 said:
Watching LeMans seems better than F1. Cars that can follow loads of overtaking. No back markers having to jump out of the way. Top drivers pit stops with refuelling what’s not to enjoy. Drivers that talk to the press and don’t sulk. Makes F1 look drab

And no woke tv presenters just decent petrolheads
From the Baku thread… would Naomi be who you’re referring to? Just curious.
Naomi has raced, so I need to ask, have the Le Mans presenters? Does the fact that she has raced mean she's not a petrolhead?

She's young, so that brings fresh perspective to it all imo, she's knowledgeable and very attractive too, so she scores on all counts afaic.

A groups of us watched Sky qually recorded at a friend's bbq yesterday pm, we all agreed on fast forwarding all the Johnny Herbert stuff cos we all agreed he brings almost nothing to the table at all, and we've heard it all before, repeatedly.

The 'norm' seems to be pale, stale men, and millions of pale stale men are fine with this. Any attempt to move on from this is dismissed as 'woke'.

No doubt many wanted to the world preserved in aspic, preferring the likes of Jenkinson, Roebuck, Henry and Hamilton etc, the good old days when half the world was under the yoke of communism. smile

Sandpit Steve

9,963 posts

74 months

Sunday 12th June 2022
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Not a fan in general of what appear to be forced ‘diversity hires’ in sports coverage, but Naomi is pretty good.

She grew up with a lot of the current drivers (she’s 27) and knows a lot of them well. She’s an experienced driver in single-seaters and sportscars, and is a lot better than a ‘presenter’ such as Natalie at interviewing them, with more of an understanding of their world. She’s also enthusiastic and always smiling, more so than probably anyone else on the Sky team.

No, she’s not Brundle, but who is? We miss him when he’s not there, as seen by negative comments about the various driver pundits in several threads this weekend.

And yes, being good looking helps. Best legs in the paddock!

cgt2

7,099 posts

188 months

Sunday 12th June 2022
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Sandpit Steve said:
She’s also enthusiastic and always smiling, more so than probably anyone else on the Sky team.
Naomi is a young fresh face with a great smile. It's a bit of a plastic surgery tell if a slightly older lady smiles and her forehead moves in sync smile

Sandpit Steve

9,963 posts

74 months

Sunday 12th June 2022
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cgt2 said:
Naomi is a young fresh face with a great smile. It's a bit of a plastic surgery tell if a slightly older lady smiles and her forehead moves in sync smile
Couldn’t possibly think who you mean there!

(Apart from the one who turned up looking more different than the cars at the start of this season, after some chassis modifications a couple of years ago).

nordboy

1,452 posts

50 months

Sunday 12th June 2022
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I like her, she seems to be getting better and better each race. She does know her stuff, early days she sort of stuttered getting the info out, but she's gaining in confidence.
De Resta however.....

cgt2

7,099 posts

188 months

Sunday 12th June 2022
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Sandpit Steve said:
Couldn’t possibly think who you mean there!

(Apart from the one who turned up looking more different than the cars at the start of this season, after some chassis modifications a couple of years ago).
smile

cc3

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2,795 posts

116 months

Sunday 12th June 2022
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HighwayStar said:
cgt2 said:
Still love to know what Danica Patrick was excellent at. She was the worst co-presenter they have had for awhile with painful lack of knowledge. Compared to her Naomi is Magnus Magnusson.
You know you’re not likely to get a reply to that…
Her racing record particularly in open wheel format speaks for itself. She won and held her own in a male dominated sport and her views are backed by experience that none of the so called experts who fill these forums with nonsense have. Strange how her so called painful lack of knowledge made her a winner in the US.

super7

1,931 posts

208 months

Sunday 12th June 2022
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Sandpit Steve said:
Not a fan in general of what appear to be forced ‘diversity hires’ in sports coverage, but Naomi is pretty good.

She grew up with a lot of the current drivers (she’s 27) and knows a lot of them well. She’s an experienced driver in single-seaters and sportscars, and is a lot better than a ‘presenter’ such as Natalie at interviewing them, with more of an understanding of their world. She’s also enthusiastic and always smiling, more so than probably anyone else on the Sky team.

No, she’s not Brundle, but who is? We miss him when he’s not there, as seen by negative comments about the various driver pundits in several threads this weekend.

And yes, being good looking helps. Best legs in the paddock!
The ONLY issue I have with her is in your comment above...... "She’s an experienced driver in single-seaters and sportscars, ".... NO SHE'S NOT!!!!!!

Have you seen her race record? She's only won one championship..... the Clio cup in China!! She's done a few other odd's and sods, but her last season, 2019, was in Formula W where she never finished in the top ten! in 11 years of racing. She was only a reserve driver in 2021!!! In 11 years of competing she's been in 42 odd races. Hardly an expert!!!

To be put on SKY F1 coverage and be referenced as a an expert Driver, and having her comment on car and driver behaviours is insulting to the Teams and Drivers. Have her asking general questions and as a presenter but NOT as a pundit!!!



Sandpit Steve

9,963 posts

74 months

Sunday 12th June 2022
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cc3 said:
Her racing record particularly in open wheel format speaks for itself. She won and held her own in a male dominated sport and her views are backed by experience that none of the so called experts who fill these forums with nonsense have. Strange how her so called painful lack of knowledge made her a winner in the US.
Danica’s probably the most successful lady driver alive. Not brilliant as an F1 pundit though, came across as having spent a day or two watching highlights reels of the past few races, because she hadn’t been following. She was much better as a pundit for the American broadcaster at the Indy 500.

super7

1,931 posts

208 months

Sunday 12th June 2022
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cc3 said:
HighwayStar said:
cgt2 said:
Still love to know what Danica Patrick was excellent at. She was the worst co-presenter they have had for awhile with painful lack of knowledge. Compared to her Naomi is Magnus Magnusson.
You know you’re not likely to get a reply to that…
Her racing record particularly in open wheel format speaks for itself. She won and held her own in a male dominated sport and her views are backed by experience that none of the so called experts who fill these forums with nonsense have. Strange how her so called painful lack of knowledge made her a winner in the US.
Danica is probably one of the only women who could have competed properly in F1. Her Indycar, INDY 500 and Nascar experience speaks for itself, and she brings an American approach to the US Grand Prix's.

cgt2

7,099 posts

188 months

Sunday 12th June 2022
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cc3 said:
Her racing record particularly in open wheel format speaks for itself. She won and held her own in a male dominated sport and her views are backed by experience that none of the so called experts who fill these forums with nonsense have. Strange how her so called painful lack of knowledge made her a winner in the US.
How do her driving achievements (definitely exceptional) in completely different categories qualify her to explain F1? The US is far more simplistic, Nascar is neanderthal in comparison.

Not sure what you were watching but it was very obvious she had zero knowledge of the technical aspects, driver dynamics and was winging it as she was simply drafted in as a 'face'. She repeatedly made inaccurate statements and went down weird cul-de-sac's that confused the others.


pincher

8,528 posts

217 months

Sunday 12th June 2022
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Sandpit Steve said:
cgt2 said:
Naomi is a young fresh face with a great smile. It's a bit of a plastic surgery tell if a slightly older lady smiles and her forehead moves in sync smile
Couldn’t possibly think who you mean there!

(Apart from the one who turned up looking more different than the cars at the start of this season, after some chassis modifications a couple of years ago).
Help me out here….?

number2

4,286 posts

187 months

Sunday 12th June 2022
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pincher said:
Sandpit Steve said:
cgt2 said:
Naomi is a young fresh face with a great smile. It's a bit of a plastic surgery tell if a slightly older lady smiles and her forehead moves in sync smile
Couldn’t possibly think who you mean there!

(Apart from the one who turned up looking more different than the cars at the start of this season, after some chassis modifications a couple of years ago).
Help me out here….?
Pinkers?

Naomi is a welcome addition smile.

cgt2

7,099 posts

188 months

Sunday 12th June 2022
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super7 said:
she brings an American approach to the US Grand Prix's.
I'm not sure the 'American approach' is a good thing. Lots of noise, little substance.

She was a great driver no question but clearly didn't spend her weekends watching F1 probably for the very reason she was busy winning races in the US.

super7

1,931 posts

208 months

Sunday 12th June 2022
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cgt2 said:
cc3 said:
Her racing record particularly in open wheel format speaks for itself. She won and held her own in a male dominated sport and her views are backed by experience that none of the so called experts who fill these forums with nonsense have. Strange how her so called painful lack of knowledge made her a winner in the US.
How do her driving achievements in completely different categories qualify her to explain F1? The US is far more simplistic, Nascar is neanderthal in comparison.

Not sure what you were watching but it was very obvious she had zero knowledge of the technical aspects, driver dynamics and was winging it as she was simply drafted in as a 'face'. She repeatedly made inaccurate statements and went down weird cul-de-sac's that confused the others.
To be honest I don't know what your'e watching? I've watched almost every GP since 1985 and have seen many an expert come and go and I found Danica's input very informative and she certainly didn't embarrass herself. She know the mentality needed to be a driver, she might not know the cars 100% but she knows the principals of a good car and a bad car.

I think you expect perfection. my guess though is that she knows a lot more about F1 and racing than you do, unless of course your actually Adrian Newey, in which case I have a lot of respect ????????

cgt2

7,099 posts

188 months

Sunday 12th June 2022
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super7 said:
To be honest I don't know what your'e watching? I've watched almost every GP since 1985 and have seen many an expert come and go and I found Danica's input very informative and she certainly didn't embarrass herself. She know the mentality needed to be a driver, she might not know the cars 100% but she knows the principals of a good car and a bad car.

I think you expect perfection. my guess though is that she knows a lot more about F1 and racing than you do, unless of course your actually Adrian Newey, in which case I have a lot of respect ????????
Been watching even longer than you. Glad you like her.