Official 2022 Hungarian Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***
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C70R said:
Deesee said:
Merc are only 10 points behind on last years WCC tally race for race..
That's quite mad really. With an objectively worse car relative to others on the grid, and having a new driver in the team, it goes to prove the old adage about first finishing to finish first. Reliability has been their friend this year. I have always said Russell is a next gen WDC and will give Max, LehrClerck and Norris ample headaches. Lewis in his twilight years too.
jsf said:
HardtopManual said:
I’m sure someone on here will do the maths, but Leclerc has thrown away 30+ points with mistakes (Imola + Hungaroring) and Ferrari will have chucked away double that with DNFs and strategy errors. Leclerc really could still be in the lead of the WDC.
The weekend debrief on SkyF1 did a chart showing where Leclerc would be without the DNF's or screw ups, he was well in the lead. They have thrown it away.PhilAsia said:
Testament to Russell and Lewis' ability to mop up points.
I have always said Russell is a next gen WDC and will give Max, LehrClerck and Norris ample headaches. Lewis in his twilight years too.
They kept Bottas too long, it would have been an easy win for Mercedes and Lewis with Russell in the car taking points off Max.I have always said Russell is a next gen WDC and will give Max, LehrClerck and Norris ample headaches. Lewis in his twilight years too.
Maxdecel said:
Well it wasn't the tyres <-Finger. From the horses mouth. https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.binotto...
They surely didn't forget to factor in the lower ambient ?
that article really sums how Binotto is 0ut of his depth .....his comment we couldn't win even with the tyre issue ............really.....!! had le Clerc been on the mediums instead of the hards he would have been ahead and not had to make an unnecessary pit stop .............definitely a podium position They surely didn't forget to factor in the lower ambient ?
jsf said:
PhilAsia said:
Testament to Russell and Lewis' ability to mop up points.
I have always said Russell is a next gen WDC and will give Max, LehrClerck and Norris ample headaches. Lewis in his twilight years too.
They kept Bottas too long, it would have been an easy win for Mercedes and Lewis with Russell in the car taking points off Max.I have always said Russell is a next gen WDC and will give Max, LehrClerck and Norris ample headaches. Lewis in his twilight years too.
As said earlier, mercedes don't plan a second driver, they both have equal chance.
DBSV8 said:
Maxdecel said:
Well it wasn't the tyres <-Finger. From the horses mouth. https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.binotto...
They surely didn't forget to factor in the lower ambient ?
that article really sums how Binotto is 0ut of his depth .....his comment we couldn't win even with the tyre issue ............really.....!! had le Clerc been on the mediums instead of the hards he would have been ahead and not had to make an unnecessary pit stop .............definitely a podium position They surely didn't forget to factor in the lower ambient ?
DBSV8 said:
Maxdecel said:
Well it wasn't the tyres <-Finger. From the horses mouth. https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.binotto...
They surely didn't forget to factor in the lower ambient ?
that article really sums how Binotto is 0ut of his depth .....his comment we couldn't win even with the tyre issue ............really.....!! had le Clerc been on the mediums instead of the hards he would have been ahead and not had to make an unnecessary pit stop .............definitely a podium position They surely didn't forget to factor in the lower ambient ?
paulguitar said:
pablo said:
Or rather they thought Bottas would be quicker and give more of a st than he did, I thought he was a disgrace to be honest compared to Perez
Perez is hardly setting the world on fire.Perez was a great wingman in '21 and was living the dream going from being dumped in '20 to starting in the best car of the season. It was even rumoured he had an underfueled car to delay Lewis as he did such a good job. The (relative. Sainz also started poorly and DR is nowhere) decline of Perez this season is a weird one I can only put down to either car differences or the Red Bull disease of destroying #2 drivers.
Russel in '21 would perhaps have taken points from Lewis, but that would be Max driving into George at every race where Lewis backed off and Max being held up every time Bottas did nothing. Fun speculation but we'll never know.
jsf said:
PhilAsia said:
Testament to Russell and Lewis' ability to mop up points.
I have always said Russell is a next gen WDC and will give Max, LehrClerck and Norris ample headaches. Lewis in his twilight years too.
They kept Bottas too long, it would have been an easy win for Mercedes and Lewis with Russell in the car taking points off Max.I have always said Russell is a next gen WDC and will give Max, LehrClerck and Norris ample headaches. Lewis in his twilight years too.
SturdyHSV said:
jsf said:
HardtopManual said:
I’m sure someone on here will do the maths, but Leclerc has thrown away 30+ points with mistakes (Imola + Hungaroring) and Ferrari will have chucked away double that with DNFs and strategy errors. Leclerc really could still be in the lead of the WDC.
The weekend debrief on SkyF1 did a chart showing where Leclerc would be without the DNF's or screw ups, he was well in the lead. They have thrown it away.PhilAsia said:
C70R said:
Deesee said:
Merc are only 10 points behind on last years WCC tally race for race..
That's quite mad really. With an objectively worse car relative to others on the grid, and having a new driver in the team, it goes to prove the old adage about first finishing to finish first. Reliability has been their friend this year. I have always said Russell is a next gen WDC and will give Max, LehrClerck and Norris ample headaches. Lewis in his twilight years too.
IMO If George was in the other Merc in 2021 I think Lewis would have won his 8th title...
pablo said:
Or rather they thought Bottas would be quicker and give more of a st than he did, I thought he was a disgrace to be honest compared to Perez
TBH, I think Perez is quite overrated on PH. There seems to be an awful lot of love for him here but I'm not sure that the results back it up. If you take last season, if Perez had been as close to his teammate as Bottas was, RB would be constructor champions. Bottas' lack of defence at times was incredibly frustrating but he was still a more effective point scorer than Perez. There are many on here that seem to think Perez would be in with a shot of the title if RB let him but he is consistently out qualified and out raced by Max. He is having a good season in 2022 and currently sits third but as a ratio of point scoring vs his teammate, he is the furthest adrift of all of the top 6. I like Perez and I liked Bottas but they both seem to lack the last 1 or 2 percent that some of the other guys have.NRS said:
SturdyHSV said:
jsf said:
HardtopManual said:
I’m sure someone on here will do the maths, but Leclerc has thrown away 30+ points with mistakes (Imola + Hungaroring) and Ferrari will have chucked away double that with DNFs and strategy errors. Leclerc really could still be in the lead of the WDC.
The weekend debrief on SkyF1 did a chart showing where Leclerc would be without the DNF's or screw ups, he was well in the lead. They have thrown it away.So for arguments sake, if all DNFs were taken out, I'd suggest Max would have roughly the same number of points (assuming he came 2nd whenever LeClerc didn't retire from 1st...) and LeClerc would have probably 125 more than he does now, putting him about 45 points in the lead?
We're well into the realms of utter theoretical guesswork here though!
SturdyHSV said:
NRS said:
SturdyHSV said:
jsf said:
HardtopManual said:
I’m sure someone on here will do the maths, but Leclerc has thrown away 30+ points with mistakes (Imola + Hungaroring) and Ferrari will have chucked away double that with DNFs and strategy errors. Leclerc really could still be in the lead of the WDC.
The weekend debrief on SkyF1 did a chart showing where Leclerc would be without the DNF's or screw ups, he was well in the lead. They have thrown it away.So for arguments sake, if all DNFs were taken out, I'd suggest Max would have roughly the same number of points (assuming he came 2nd whenever LeClerc didn't retire from 1st...) and LeClerc would have probably 125 more than he does now, putting him about 45 points in the lead?
We're well into the realms of utter theoretical guesswork here though!
Piginapoke said:
pablo said:
Or rather they thought Bottas would be quicker and give more of a st than he did, I thought he was a disgrace to be honest compared to Perez
Well he gave it a good go in Hungary last year!In the wet...
At the start...
1st corner...
Lando early brake...
Bottas lock up tap...
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