F1 Silverstone 2023 Tickets on Sale Today!
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Not really doesn't shock me, there is a huge demand, hype was boosted for the ticket release, issues happened during it, people panic and will overlook price increases coz its all about me right?
Fair play to them, if tens of thousands of people are prepared to ignore common sense, why not make as much out of them as you can, I dont actually know what the limit might be, as it seems there is no real limit to what people will spend on f1 tickets there.
Many moons ago I recall the Sunday price for Ga hovered under 100 for years, then it went over and they said, Oh right we can charge what we want and they still come.
Fans are not fickle.
Fair play to them, if tens of thousands of people are prepared to ignore common sense, why not make as much out of them as you can, I dont actually know what the limit might be, as it seems there is no real limit to what people will spend on f1 tickets there.
Many moons ago I recall the Sunday price for Ga hovered under 100 for years, then it went over and they said, Oh right we can charge what we want and they still come.
Fans are not fickle.
Dazzled said:
LukeBrown66 said:
Not really doesn't shock me, there is a huge demand, hype was boosted for the ticket release, issues happened during it, people panic and will overlook price increases coz its all about me right
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Who’s it meant to be about? .
PhilAsia said:
Dazzled said:
LukeBrown66 said:
Not really doesn't shock me, there is a huge demand, hype was boosted for the ticket release, issues happened during it, people panic and will overlook price increases coz its all about me right
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Who’s it meant to be about? .
Also - he can't afford it anyway, so thank god for principles
paulguitar said:
Dazzled said:
Worth doing, but been there, done that now so looking to do Monza next year.
I did Monza way back in 2003. Was living in France at the time. 1100 kms, through the night, in a Mk 1 MR2, after a full day's work. No sat nav. (or screen wash!). 50 hours drinking beer/espresso & watching loud cars….did the drive again in reverse. (Having avoided beer for a sufficient period, of course) Then straight back to work.
It's amazing what you do when you're young.
tshow this year My objection is not the pricing. That is only part of the issue.
The venue are merely doing as much as they possibly can to make as much money out of people as possible, initially by asking crazy money for the tickets anyway, then by introducing a sort of quick gate system you have at Alton Towers say to allow you better/quicker access to tickets (oddly only released a few days or weeks before they went on sale anyway I think?) and then also introducing a system that increases the price of certain certain tickets based on demand as you are waiting to buy them.
If you, as a punter do not walk away at any of those moments, then the fault if there is any is all yours.
But the big issue for me is the precedent you set by just carrying on, that means that early bird ticket price and club tickets will now increase possibly as will perhaps a more aggressive pricing structure to ensure ever more money is taken.
Not to mention the base pricing being taken out of reach for many as it already is, either because of the actual value you perceive, or the sheer monetary cost involved.
The venue are merely doing as much as they possibly can to make as much money out of people as possible, initially by asking crazy money for the tickets anyway, then by introducing a sort of quick gate system you have at Alton Towers say to allow you better/quicker access to tickets (oddly only released a few days or weeks before they went on sale anyway I think?) and then also introducing a system that increases the price of certain certain tickets based on demand as you are waiting to buy them.
If you, as a punter do not walk away at any of those moments, then the fault if there is any is all yours.
But the big issue for me is the precedent you set by just carrying on, that means that early bird ticket price and club tickets will now increase possibly as will perhaps a more aggressive pricing structure to ensure ever more money is taken.
Not to mention the base pricing being taken out of reach for many as it already is, either because of the actual value you perceive, or the sheer monetary cost involved.
What a complete load of tosh.
You are telling me that I shouldn’t go to an event I want to, and can afford to go to because it is too expensive for you.
Therefore, by me and people similar to me not going it will force the venue to reduce prices in the future.
Then, at that point in the future when prices are more reasonable (as deemed by you) people like you will be able to afford to go to that event.
Then, people like me can look forward to sitting in a grandstand for a couple of hours next to a complete fun sponge like yourself?
No thanks.
Here’s another idea. Why don’t you get that chip off your shoulder and just work harder so you can afford to go? You know, work at the rate your employer requires rather than only putting in the level of effort you want.
Freedom for Tooting Luke. Freedom for Tooting.
You are telling me that I shouldn’t go to an event I want to, and can afford to go to because it is too expensive for you.
Therefore, by me and people similar to me not going it will force the venue to reduce prices in the future.
Then, at that point in the future when prices are more reasonable (as deemed by you) people like you will be able to afford to go to that event.
Then, people like me can look forward to sitting in a grandstand for a couple of hours next to a complete fun sponge like yourself?
No thanks.
Here’s another idea. Why don’t you get that chip off your shoulder and just work harder so you can afford to go? You know, work at the rate your employer requires rather than only putting in the level of effort you want.
Freedom for Tooting Luke. Freedom for Tooting.
LukeBrown66 said:
My objection is not the pricing. That is only part of the issue.
The venue are merely doing as much as they possibly can to make as much money out of people as possible, initially by asking crazy money for the tickets anyway, then by introducing a sort of quick gate system you have at Alton Towers say to allow you better/quicker access to tickets (oddly only released a few days or weeks before they went on sale anyway I think?) and then also introducing a system that increases the price of certain certain tickets based on demand as you are waiting to buy them.
If you, as a punter do not walk away at any of those moments, then the fault if there is any is all yours.
But the big issue for me is the precedent you set by just carrying on, that means that early bird ticket price and club tickets will now increase possibly as will perhaps a more aggressive pricing structure to ensure ever more money is taken.
Not to mention the base pricing being taken out of reach for many as it already is, either because of the actual value you perceive, or the sheer monetary cost involved.
My take on this Silverstone thing is, is price gouging conducive to customer loyalty? Not in my case......The venue are merely doing as much as they possibly can to make as much money out of people as possible, initially by asking crazy money for the tickets anyway, then by introducing a sort of quick gate system you have at Alton Towers say to allow you better/quicker access to tickets (oddly only released a few days or weeks before they went on sale anyway I think?) and then also introducing a system that increases the price of certain certain tickets based on demand as you are waiting to buy them.
If you, as a punter do not walk away at any of those moments, then the fault if there is any is all yours.
But the big issue for me is the precedent you set by just carrying on, that means that early bird ticket price and club tickets will now increase possibly as will perhaps a more aggressive pricing structure to ensure ever more money is taken.
Not to mention the base pricing being taken out of reach for many as it already is, either because of the actual value you perceive, or the sheer monetary cost involved.
Dazzled said:
What a complete load of tosh.
You are telling me that I shouldn’t go to an event I want to, and can afford to go to because it is too expensive for you.
Therefore, by me and people similar to me not going it will force the venue to reduce prices in the future.
Then, at that point in the future when prices are more reasonable (as deemed by you) people like you will be able to afford to go to that event.
Then, people like me can look forward to sitting in a grandstand for a couple of hours next to a complete fun sponge like yourself?
No thanks.
Here’s another idea. Why don’t you get that chip off your shoulder and just work harder so you can afford to go? You know, work at the rate your employer requires rather than only putting in the level of effort you want.
Freedom for Tooting Luke. Freedom for Tooting.
Well said.You are telling me that I shouldn’t go to an event I want to, and can afford to go to because it is too expensive for you.
Therefore, by me and people similar to me not going it will force the venue to reduce prices in the future.
Then, at that point in the future when prices are more reasonable (as deemed by you) people like you will be able to afford to go to that event.
Then, people like me can look forward to sitting in a grandstand for a couple of hours next to a complete fun sponge like yourself?
No thanks.
Here’s another idea. Why don’t you get that chip off your shoulder and just work harder so you can afford to go? You know, work at the rate your employer requires rather than only putting in the level of effort you want.
Freedom for Tooting Luke. Freedom for Tooting.
Dazzled said:
What a complete load of tosh.
You are telling me that I shouldn’t go to an event I want to, and can afford to go to because it is too expensive for you.
Therefore, by me and people similar to me not going it will force the venue to reduce prices in the future.
Then, at that point in the future when prices are more reasonable (as deemed by you) people like you will be able to afford to go to that event.
Then, people like me can look forward to sitting in a grandstand for a couple of hours next to a complete fun sponge like yourself?
No thanks.
Here’s another idea. Why don’t you get that chip off your shoulder and just work harder so you can afford to go? You know, work at the rate your employer requires rather than only putting in the level of effort you want.
Freedom for Tooting Luke. Freedom for Tooting.
I am kind of OK with Luke's thinking. I live in Asia where, often, the less advantaged are taken advantage of WHOLESALE. To think of others as you accept/refuse the terms and conditions of sale is something that I am often cognisant of, as my choices can often affect the lives of those that are not able to rise above.You are telling me that I shouldn’t go to an event I want to, and can afford to go to because it is too expensive for you.
Therefore, by me and people similar to me not going it will force the venue to reduce prices in the future.
Then, at that point in the future when prices are more reasonable (as deemed by you) people like you will be able to afford to go to that event.
Then, people like me can look forward to sitting in a grandstand for a couple of hours next to a complete fun sponge like yourself?
No thanks.
Here’s another idea. Why don’t you get that chip off your shoulder and just work harder so you can afford to go? You know, work at the rate your employer requires rather than only putting in the level of effort you want.
Freedom for Tooting Luke. Freedom for Tooting.
Daz68 said:
What has amazed me is the amount of tickets sold. Crikey Silverstone has become a licence to print money. Make hay while the sun shines.
Yeah, given people would be moaning and chin stroking over tickets only a short while ago as they sold over a period of months with tickets still normally available up until the event... Who exactly is it that's swooped in and cleaned up at 150-200% of last year's prices?Anyway we need a new thread.. "the great Silverstone 2023 ticket swindle part II... Tips on traveling to European races"
When do they all go on sale? Do I drive and camp for spa or stay in leige? Decisions, decisions.
Teddy Lop said:
Yeah, given people would be moaning and chin stroking over tickets only a short while ago as they sold over a period of months with tickets still normally available up until the event... Who exactly is it that's swooped in and cleaned up at 150-200% of last year's prices?
Anyway we need a new thread.. "the great Silverstone 2023 ticket swindle part II... Tips on traveling to European races"
When do they all go on sale? Do I drive and camp for spa or stay in leige? Decisions, decisions.
The worry has to be, that many other races are going to learn from Silverstone, finding ways to create false scarcity to hype sales well ahead of the race. Anyway we need a new thread.. "the great Silverstone 2023 ticket swindle part II... Tips on traveling to European races"
When do they all go on sale? Do I drive and camp for spa or stay in leige? Decisions, decisions.
By way of a personal example, I bought tickets for Abu Dhabi last year, on 11th Nov for the race on 12th Dec.
This year, there’s no two-day or three-day tickets available at all now, 10 weeks out, except for $3k hospitality - for what’s almost certainly a very dead rubber, as opposed to a Championship decider. https://www.yasmarinacircuit.com/en/f1listingpage
F1 has gone truly global, and it’s bonkers. God only knows what happens with trying to get Las Vegas tickets next year.
Sandpit Steve said:
Teddy Lop said:
Yeah, given people would be moaning and chin stroking over tickets only a short while ago as they sold over a period of months with tickets still normally available up until the event... Who exactly is it that's swooped in and cleaned up at 150-200% of last year's prices?
Anyway we need a new thread.. "the great Silverstone 2023 ticket swindle part II... Tips on traveling to European races"
When do they all go on sale? Do I drive and camp for spa or stay in leige? Decisions, decisions.
The worry has to be, that many other races are going to learn from Silverstone, finding ways to create false scarcity to hype sales well ahead of the race. Anyway we need a new thread.. "the great Silverstone 2023 ticket swindle part II... Tips on traveling to European races"
When do they all go on sale? Do I drive and camp for spa or stay in leige? Decisions, decisions.
By way of a personal example, I bought tickets for Abu Dhabi last year, on 11th Nov for the race on 12th Dec.
This year, there’s no two-day or three-day tickets available at all now, 10 weeks out, except for $3k hospitality - for what’s almost certainly a very dead rubber, as opposed to a Championship decider. https://www.yasmarinacircuit.com/en/f1listingpage
F1 has gone truly global, and it’s bonkers. God only knows what happens with trying to get Las Vegas tickets next year.
PhilAsia said:
Dazzled said:
What a complete load of tosh.
You are telling me that I shouldn’t go to an event I want to, and can afford to go to because it is too expensive for you.
Therefore, by me and people similar to me not going it will force the venue to reduce prices in the future.
Then, at that point in the future when prices are more reasonable (as deemed by you) people like you will be able to afford to go to that event.
Then, people like me can look forward to sitting in a grandstand for a couple of hours next to a complete fun sponge like yourself?
No thanks.
Here’s another idea. Why don’t you get that chip off your shoulder and just work harder so you can afford to go? You know, work at the rate your employer requires rather than only putting in the level of effort you want.
Freedom for Tooting Luke. Freedom for Tooting.
I am kind of OK with Luke's thinking. I live in Asia where, often, the less advantaged are taken advantage of WHOLESALE. To think of others as you accept/refuse the terms and conditions of sale is something that I am often cognisant of, as my choices can often affect the lives of those that are not able to rise above.You are telling me that I shouldn’t go to an event I want to, and can afford to go to because it is too expensive for you.
Therefore, by me and people similar to me not going it will force the venue to reduce prices in the future.
Then, at that point in the future when prices are more reasonable (as deemed by you) people like you will be able to afford to go to that event.
Then, people like me can look forward to sitting in a grandstand for a couple of hours next to a complete fun sponge like yourself?
No thanks.
Here’s another idea. Why don’t you get that chip off your shoulder and just work harder so you can afford to go? You know, work at the rate your employer requires rather than only putting in the level of effort you want.
Freedom for Tooting Luke. Freedom for Tooting.
I personally don't see it as worthwhile value for money, it's insane tbh. But as a business they'd be idiots to not hike the price of they know (and they do) that enough people will find the money and struggle with the ticket buying and the lottery. Businesses strive to meet the demand of the market, in the most profitable way.
But to the point about those without the resources... None of us can afford what we want all of the the time. Sometimes not for a long time, sometimes never. Some of those people whine about what they can't have, some others invent their own new entertainment. If F1 prices itself out of popularity then rest assured, something else will rise to take its place. It just won't be a something created by anyone obsessed with complaining.
Teddy Lop said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Teddy Lop said:
Yeah, given people would be moaning and chin stroking over tickets only a short while ago as they sold over a period of months with tickets still normally available up until the event... Who exactly is it that's swooped in and cleaned up at 150-200% of last year's prices?
Anyway we need a new thread.. "the great Silverstone 2023 ticket swindle part II... Tips on traveling to European races"
When do they all go on sale? Do I drive and camp for spa or stay in leige? Decisions, decisions.
The worry has to be, that many other races are going to learn from Silverstone, finding ways to create false scarcity to hype sales well ahead of the race. Anyway we need a new thread.. "the great Silverstone 2023 ticket swindle part II... Tips on traveling to European races"
When do they all go on sale? Do I drive and camp for spa or stay in leige? Decisions, decisions.
By way of a personal example, I bought tickets for Abu Dhabi last year, on 11th Nov for the race on 12th Dec.
This year, there’s no two-day or three-day tickets available at all now, 10 weeks out, except for $3k hospitality - for what’s almost certainly a very dead rubber, as opposed to a Championship decider. https://www.yasmarinacircuit.com/en/f1listingpage
F1 has gone truly global, and it’s bonkers. God only knows what happens with trying to get Las Vegas tickets next year.
I’m non Aston - Eton educated.
I was brought up being told that if you want something you save up and buy it, don’t ever assume someone is going to gift it to you or you are entitled to it.
I went out to work, found out I was good at something and worked hard at it. That meant I was working most weekends while the British GP was on so couldn’t go.
Years later I’m in a place where I can go and can afford to go, if some throbber thinks he can now tell me what I can and can’t do then quite frankly he can go swivel.
The politics of envy is the politics of a shirking layabout as far as I’m concerned.
Oh, and what I found I was good at for those 40 years of employment was managing a commercial team, so don’t ever think you can lecture me on the value of a pound.
Freedom for Tooting Wolfie Brown 66, freedom for Tooting.
I was brought up being told that if you want something you save up and buy it, don’t ever assume someone is going to gift it to you or you are entitled to it.
I went out to work, found out I was good at something and worked hard at it. That meant I was working most weekends while the British GP was on so couldn’t go.
Years later I’m in a place where I can go and can afford to go, if some throbber thinks he can now tell me what I can and can’t do then quite frankly he can go swivel.
The politics of envy is the politics of a shirking layabout as far as I’m concerned.
Oh, and what I found I was good at for those 40 years of employment was managing a commercial team, so don’t ever think you can lecture me on the value of a pound.
Freedom for Tooting Wolfie Brown 66, freedom for Tooting.
Dazzled said:
I’m non Aston - Eton educated.
I was brought up being told that if you want something you save up and buy it, don’t ever assume someone is going to gift it to you or you are entitled to it.
I went out to work, found out I was good at something and worked hard at it. That meant I was working most weekends while the British GP was on so couldn’t go.
Years later I’m in a place where I can go and can afford to go, if some throbber thinks he can now tell me what I can and can’t do then quite frankly he can go swivel.
The politics of envy is the politics of a shirking layabout as far as I’m concerned.
Oh, and what I found I was good at for those 40 years of employment was managing a commercial team, so don’t ever think you can lecture me on the value of a pound.
Freedom for Tooting Wolfie Brown 66, freedom for Tooting.
I so not agree with "telling" someone what they can do. I am keenly aware of the steps taken to a wholesale shafting and feel this is currently what is vogue. Purchase away if that is what satiates your desire.I was brought up being told that if you want something you save up and buy it, don’t ever assume someone is going to gift it to you or you are entitled to it.
I went out to work, found out I was good at something and worked hard at it. That meant I was working most weekends while the British GP was on so couldn’t go.
Years later I’m in a place where I can go and can afford to go, if some throbber thinks he can now tell me what I can and can’t do then quite frankly he can go swivel.
The politics of envy is the politics of a shirking layabout as far as I’m concerned.
Oh, and what I found I was good at for those 40 years of employment was managing a commercial team, so don’t ever think you can lecture me on the value of a pound.
Freedom for Tooting Wolfie Brown 66, freedom for Tooting.
Teddy Lop said:
The races are all independently promoted, and I'm pretty sure all the European events (except GB) receive some degree of govm./public money assistance so if they tried to scalp the punters with that behind them there could be some serious ramifications; that said I suspect there are people are watching...
Alternatively, thanks to pandemic and war, the finances of governments all over Europe are totally screwed at the moment, so there will be political pressure to cut discretionary spending such as underwriting sporting events, in favour of spending the limited public funds on essential government services. Which means prices go up for visitors, especially if they see demand rising because Silverstone and Zandvoort are pretty much sold out already, and people are already discussing travelling to races next year!
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