Official 2023 Saudi Arabia Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

[Frimley111R]

pablo said:

First lap will be…… spicy. Alonso and Russel will put Perez under huge pressure and something will happen.

Max will get through easily enough. It will be hailed as a great drive etc but the reality will be he is given space and will be top ten by lap two. People will let him through because there appears to be this mindset that only certain drivers can compete for the championship, everyone else knows their place and is fighting for points.

Absolutely, all this 'fight from the back' is BS. Cars just can't wait to get out of the way. He'll basically get a load of free passes up to the front runners in no time. I suspect catching Perez might be difficult but there's no real need to, P2 will be fine.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

Niponeoff said:

(Future apologies for any drunken posts)

We're all there. I know I am

[CoolHands]

I’ve got shot down on here many a time when I criticise drivers for jumping out the way. “Ah well they’re in a different race” etc excuses. My mindset is - keep everyone behind.

[Red9zero]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

Niponeoff said:

(Future apologies for any drunken posts)

We're all there. I know I am

It's 5 o'clock somewhere

[Leithen]

Deesee said:

Some of you guys have been on here Pre Alonso’s debut.. 200/250+ months..

I remember being devastated by Gilles’ death and shocked by Pironi’s accident.

I’ve also always felt that the four years between Prost and Senna contributed to very different driving attitudes between them.

[paulguitar]

Red9zero said:

Clockwork Cupcake said:

Niponeoff said:

(Future apologies for any drunken posts)

We're all there. I know I am

It's 5 o'clock somewhere

I do that one

[Red9zero]

paulguitar said:

Red9zero said:

Clockwork Cupcake said:

Niponeoff said:

(Future apologies for any drunken posts)

We're all there. I know I am

It's 5 o'clock somewhere

I do that one

I've got it in my head now

[Smollet]

Leithen said:

I remember being devastated by Gilles’ death and shocked by Pironi’s accident.

I’ve also always felt that the four years between Prost and Senna contributed to very different driving attitudes between them.

Senna thought he had some divine right to win. Prost was a lot more pragmatic.

[Wills2]

pablo said:

First lap will be…… spicy. Alonso and Russel will put Perez under huge pressure and something will happen.

Max will get through easily enough. It will be hailed as a great drive etc but the reality will be he is given space and will be top ten by lap two. People will let him through because there appears to be this mindset that only certain drivers can compete for the championship, everyone else knows their place and is fighting for points.

Agreed but it would be the same for Lewis when in the same position back in the day, points mean so much that the other teams don't want to get involved in a race that isn't theirs and you can understand that, however AM/Mercedes/Ferrari have 6 cars between them that will race Max so we will at least see just how far ahead RB are when he comes up behind them.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

Smollet said:

Senna thought he had some divine right to win. Prost was a lot more pragmatic.

Quite

And many thought Senna was fking dangerous for that attitude.

And he was

[WelshChris]

Leithen said:

Deesee said:

Some of you guys have been on here Pre Alonso’s debut.. 200/250+ months..

I remember being devastated by Gilles’ death and shocked by Pironi’s accident.

I’ve also always felt that the four years between Prost and Senna contributed to very different driving attitudes between them.

I remember being upset by Jim Clark's death

[carlo996]

Wills2 said:

Agreed but it would be the same for Lewis when in the same position back in the day, points mean so much that the other teams don't want to get involved in a race that isn't theirs and you can understand that, however AM/Mercedes/Ferrari have 6 cars between them that will race Max so we will at least see just how far ahead RB are when he comes up behind them.

Wasting your breath.

[Wills2]

It's a pity there isn't an ignore button on this forum.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

WelshChris said:

I remember being upset by Jim Clark's death

I'm younger

I got into F1 in 1987 so for me it was Ratzenberger (oh no, sad) and Senna (OMFG!!!) in 1994

Yes, we all downplayed Ratzenberger's death on the Saturday. But Sunday changed F1.

[paulguitar]

Wills2 said:

It's a pity there isn't an ignore button on this forum.

I've read over on the covid thread that some of them there have some kind of code so they cannot see posts from selected people they don't agree with. Not sure if it's true though.

[vaud]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

Yes, we all downplayed Ratzenberger's death on the Saturday. But Sunday changed F1.

I don't recall that we did, I just don't think we had time to process it before the events of the Sunday.

[Deesee]

Good news, Max has had to change his gear box.. back to the one that had the issues with downshifting in Bahrain.. no penalties.. and no need to take one from Checo/AT/ catering van yet.


Edit rear suspension too, surprised at that.. MGUK may have been worth changing too if they are that concerned.

Edited by Deesee on Sunday 19th March 16:03

[Clockwork Cupcake]

vaud said:

I don't recall that we did, I just don't think we had time to process it before the events of the Sunday.

That's fair.

Point was that, either way, Senna's death hit harder.

I am not in any way denigrating or downplaying Ratzenberger's death

[paulguitar]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

vaud said:

I don't recall that we did, I just don't think we had time to process it before the events of the Sunday.

That's fair.

Point was that, either way, Senna's death hit harder.

I am not in any way denigrating or downplaying Ratzenberger's death

I remember hearing about Roland's death on the radio. I couldn't process it, I didn't think it was possible anymore to die in an F1 car. Then we had Senna the next day and Wendlinger's accident at Monaco two weeks later. Suddenly everything felt very, very uncertain.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

Deesee said:

Good news, Max has had to change his gear box.. back to the one that had the issues with downshifting in Bahrain.. no penalties.. and no need to take one from Checo/AT/ catering van yet.


Edit rear suspension too, surprised at that.. MGUK may have been worth changing too if they are that concerned.

No penalties? Inconceivable!

What a crock of st.

At least give him a token nothing-penaly

And give $100Million back to McLaren