Official 2023 Saudi Arabia Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***
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pablo said:
First lap will be…… spicy. Alonso and Russel will put Perez under huge pressure and something will happen.
Max will get through easily enough. It will be hailed as a great drive etc but the reality will be he is given space and will be top ten by lap two. People will let him through because there appears to be this mindset that only certain drivers can compete for the championship, everyone else knows their place and is fighting for points.
Absolutely, all this 'fight from the back' is BS. Cars just can't wait to get out of the way. He'll basically get a load of free passes up to the front runners in no time. I suspect catching Perez might be difficult but there's no real need to, P2 will be fine.Max will get through easily enough. It will be hailed as a great drive etc but the reality will be he is given space and will be top ten by lap two. People will let him through because there appears to be this mindset that only certain drivers can compete for the championship, everyone else knows their place and is fighting for points.
Deesee said:
Some of you guys have been on here Pre Alonso’s debut..
200/250+ months..
I remember being devastated by Gilles’ death and shocked by Pironi’s accident. 
I’ve also always felt that the four years between Prost and Senna contributed to very different driving attitudes between them.
Leithen said:
I remember being devastated by Gilles’ death and shocked by Pironi’s accident.
I’ve also always felt that the four years between Prost and Senna contributed to very different driving attitudes between them.
Senna thought he had some divine right to win. Prost was a lot more pragmatic. I’ve also always felt that the four years between Prost and Senna contributed to very different driving attitudes between them.
pablo said:
First lap will be…… spicy. Alonso and Russel will put Perez under huge pressure and something will happen.
Max will get through easily enough. It will be hailed as a great drive etc but the reality will be he is given space and will be top ten by lap two. People will let him through because there appears to be this mindset that only certain drivers can compete for the championship, everyone else knows their place and is fighting for points.
Agreed but it would be the same for Lewis when in the same position back in the day, points mean so much that the other teams don't want to get involved in a race that isn't theirs and you can understand that, however AM/Mercedes/Ferrari have 6 cars between them that will race Max so we will at least see just how far ahead RB are when he comes up behind them. Max will get through easily enough. It will be hailed as a great drive etc but the reality will be he is given space and will be top ten by lap two. People will let him through because there appears to be this mindset that only certain drivers can compete for the championship, everyone else knows their place and is fighting for points.
Leithen said:
Deesee said:
Some of you guys have been on here Pre Alonso’s debut..
200/250+ months..
I remember being devastated by Gilles’ death and shocked by Pironi’s accident. 
I’ve also always felt that the four years between Prost and Senna contributed to very different driving attitudes between them.

Wills2 said:
Agreed but it would be the same for Lewis when in the same position back in the day, points mean so much that the other teams don't want to get involved in a race that isn't theirs and you can understand that, however AM/Mercedes/Ferrari have 6 cars between them that will race Max so we will at least see just how far ahead RB are when he comes up behind them.
Wasting your breath. Good news, Max has had to change his gear box.. back to the one that had the issues with downshifting in Bahrain.. no penalties.. and no need to take one from Checo/AT/ catering van yet.
Edit rear suspension too, surprised at that.. MGUK may have been worth changing too if they are that concerned.
Edit rear suspension too, surprised at that.. MGUK may have been worth changing too if they are that concerned.
Edited by Deesee on Sunday 19th March 16:03
Clockwork Cupcake said:
vaud said:
I don't recall that we did, I just don't think we had time to process it before the events of the Sunday.
That's fair. Point was that, either way, Senna's death hit harder.
I am not in any way denigrating or downplaying Ratzenberger's death
Deesee said:
Good news, Max has had to change his gear box.. back to the one that had the issues with downshifting in Bahrain.. no penalties.. and no need to take one from Checo/AT/ catering van yet.
Edit rear suspension too, surprised at that.. MGUK may have been worth changing too if they are that concerned.
No penalties? Inconceivable!Edit rear suspension too, surprised at that.. MGUK may have been worth changing too if they are that concerned.
What a crock of s

At least give him a token nothing-penaly
And give $100Million back to McLaren
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