The Official F1 2025 silly season *contains speculation*

[TheDeuce]

PRO5T said:

TheDeuce said:

PRO5T said:

The difference with Hadjar is he's like that when it's going well! To be fair, he was rather more contrite on his startling balls up for the championship last year and actually came out of it looking... less bad than he could have.

Him and Yuki though

For the first time in forever I'm not looking forward to seeing what a rookie can achieve, I'm looking forward to what he says when things go wrong

And he's not an ahole, he's not unpleasant... Its just that his radio rants and toys out the pram moments are biblical.

Yuki's about to learn a whole bunch of new naughty words

I think Yuki, with his and Honda's contracts about to expire will be putting some manners on him to show the good doctor what a mistake he's made.

Is his Honda contract about to expire?

Either way I can't see that Helmut has made a mistake with him, he was only ever a function of the Honda deal, not a driver that Helmut choose or is invested in.

[PRO5T]

Honda's contract with Red Bull expires at the end of the (next) season I mean. I'm not suggesting the good doctor will think he's made a mistake but I suspect Yuki will think he has and with those contracts up at the end of 2025 he has nothing to lose.

[TheDeuce]

PRO5T said:

Honda's contract with Red Bull expires at the end of the (next) season I mean. I'm not suggesting the good doctor will think he's made a mistake but I suspect Yuki will think he has and with those contracts up at the end of 2025 he has nothing to lose.

I expect Yuki's simply hoping that a seat becomes available for 2026 season at AMR, if it does, it seems likely he'll be filling it.

Perhaps that's already 'the deal' of Honda supplying AMR, but the change just hasn't been orchestrated yet?

[Sandpit Steve]

TheDeuce said:

Is his Honda contract about to expire?

Either way I can't see that Helmut has made a mistake with him, he was only ever a function of the Honda deal, not a driver that Helmut choose or is invested in.

That was basically the problem, that the Honda deal (whether explicitly or implicitly) included the engine supplier placing the best Japanese driver they could find in one of the seats, for their own marketing purposes.

Marko doesn’t care for Yuki, he wasn’t a Red Bull junior and is only there to keep Honda happy. He’ll probably go either to Aston Martin or to Honda’s IMSA LMP entry for ‘26, depending on how much leverage they managed to get from Mr Stroll Snr.

Edit: this should of course be in the ‘26 thread, rather than the ‘25 thread.

Edited by Sandpit Steve on Tuesday 24th December 09:29

[vaud]

If anyone is bored waiting for 2025, then F1 has provided a 3hr long highlights free on Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMtOmZYLEOQ&t=...

[GlobalRacer]

Be even more bored after watching that.

[paulguitar]

GlobalRacer said:

Be even more bored after watching that.

Perhaps you're on the wrong thread.

[vaud]

GlobalRacer said:

Be even more bored after watching that.

Funny way of saying "thanks for sharing"

[Westyn]

Jurgen Klopp sent Red Bull F1 offer as ex-Liverpool boss prepares to start new role. Jurgen Klopp is set to start his first job since leaving Liverpool next month after being appointed Red Bull's global head of football and the German is drawing interest from other sports

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jurge...

[carl_w]

Marcus Ericsson joins Cadillac F1

[vaud]

carl_w said:

Marcus Ericsson joins Cadillac F1

But just to evaluate simulators.

[TheDeuce]

carl_w said:

Marcus Ericsson joins Cadillac F1

To evaluate sim driving solutions and select the best one for them to use apparently - he must be rated as very good at sim testing and effective feedback I guess.

[carl_w]

TheDeuce said:

To evaluate sim driving solutions and select the best one for them to use apparently - he must be rated as very good at sim testing and effective feedback I guess.

Right but they may do a Toyota and promote the test drivers to race drivers.

[TheDeuce]

carl_w said:

TheDeuce said:

To evaluate sim driving solutions and select the best one for them to use apparently - he must be rated as very good at sim testing and effective feedback I guess.

Right but they may do a Toyota and promote the test drivers to race drivers.

Even if they're a bit... not very good? My memory of Ericsson is that he achieved next to nothing in several years in F1 and was then unsurprisingly let go. I don't recall thinking about him since he shuffled off tbh.

Perhaps I'm being harsh and misremembering!?

[732NM]

Grosjean remembers him, fking Erickson.

[TheDeuce]

732NM said:

Grosjean remembers him, fking Erickson.

I knew there was something I had forgotten

[Mark-C]

TheDeuce said:

732NM said:

Grosjean remembers him, fking Erickson.

I knew there was something I had forgotten

Had forgotten this - the F1 equivalent of a footballer diving!

[thegreenhell]

Mark-C said:

Had forgotten this - the F1 equivalent of a footballer diving!

More like the equivalent of a footballer tripping over his own shoelaces and blaming it on another player twenty feet away.

[GCH]

TheDeuce said:

Even if they're a bit... not very good? My memory of Ericsson is that he achieved next to nothing in several years in F1 and was then unsurprisingly let go. I don't recall thinking about him since he shuffled off tbh.

Perhaps I'm being harsh and misremembering!?

He did win the Indy 500... he is not at the head of the field, but by no means at the back.

[vaud]

GCH said:

TheDeuce said:

Even if they're a bit... not very good? My memory of Ericsson is that he achieved next to nothing in several years in F1 and was then unsurprisingly let go. I don't recall thinking about him since he shuffled off tbh.

Perhaps I'm being harsh and misremembering!?

He did win the Indy 500... he is not at the head of the field, but by no means at the back.

He's only doing sim evaluation. Most former F1 drivers could do that.