Official 2024 British Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

[Altrezia]

Tim the pool man said:

I think you're ignoring the part where the minister's paid thug grabbed MB by the shoulder! The correct reaction from MB would have been to punch him in the face and tell them both to fk off!

"correct reaction"

[PhilAsia]

PlywoodPascal said:

Tim the pool man said:

I think you're ignoring the part where the minister's paid thug grabbed MB by the shoulder! The correct reaction from MB would have been to punch him in the face and tell them both to fk off!

And suddenly everything becomes clear

...speaks volumes...

[Milkyway]

PhilAsia said:

PlywoodPascal said:

Tim the pool man said:

I think you're ignoring the part where the minister's paid thug grabbed MB by the shoulder! The correct reaction from MB would have been to punch him in the face and tell them both to fk off!

And suddenly everything becomes clear

...speaks volumes...

Shame Angela wasn't invited... just to see what she was wearing.

[mick987]

Milkyway said:

Shame Angela wasn't invited... just to see what she was wearing.

That would be fun, I think Jos Verslaphim would have met his match

[Milkyway]

mick987 said:

That would be fun, I think Jos Verslaphim would have met his match

A nice BRG boiler suit.

[SFTWend]

silentbrown said:

Maybe he'd just run out of drinking water..?

Maybe he was so excited to be in the lead that he wet himself.

[TheDeuce]

Sandpit Steve said:

TheDeuce said:

Hustle_ said:

I imagine coolant in F1 has approximately zero water in it?

Got me to google it now..

https://motorsport.tech/formula-1/car-cooling-syst...

Watching back the last couple of laps from his onboard, they were troubleshooting an issue with high engine temps before he retired, that was leading to the PU derating on the straights. Guess would be low water pressure due to a leak somewhere in the system, that was going to be unrecoverable. Not sure George was expecting the call to box though, I think he thought they could work through it.

The coolant itself is, as your link suggests, a pressurised water/glycol mix, and they use the minimum amount of cooling they can get away with for the circuit conditions, as the cooling inlets and outlets affect the aerodynamic performance of the car Whatever the issue was, it wasn’t something they could fix by removing some tape from the radiator inlet.

I don't think anyone was suggesting it could be fixed by adjusting airflow - we were just having a separate discussion about how far they push cooling system even at lower temp circuits.

I agree that whatever the cause of the pressure drop, in a relatively small volume and high pressure cooling system, the tiniest leak would quickly drop the pressure, in turn dropping the boiling point of the coolant - it would only get worse from that point and there is no rapid fix possible. Hitting the 'retire' button probably couldn't happen fast enough once they confirmed the pressure drop.

Sad for GR! Although as noted earlier, Lewis had a no fault DNF this season too, these things happen.

[TheDeuce]

SFTWend said:

silentbrown said:

Maybe he'd just run out of drinking water..?

Maybe he was so excited to be in the lead that he wet himself.

Good job they didn't use the 'exhaust system problem' code then...

[Milkyway]

TheDeuce said:

SFTWend said:

silentbrown said:

Maybe he'd just run out of drinking water..?

Maybe he was so excited to be in the lead that he wet himself.

Good job they didn't use the 'exhaust system problem' code then...

Radio: "Lewis is faster than you"...

[Tim the pool man]

PhilAsia said:

PlywoodPascal said:

Tim the pool man said:

I think you're ignoring the part where the minister's paid thug grabbed MB by the shoulder! The correct reaction from MB would have been to punch him in the face and tell them both to fk off!

And suddenly everything becomes clear

...speaks volumes...

I've no idea of what point you both think you're making... what would your reaction be if a hired goon grabbed you by the shoulder and tried to push you in the direction he wanted? Perhaps a biff in the bifocals is a bit unnecessary, but telling him to fk off wouldn't be out of line!

[PlywoodPascal]

Tim the pool man said:

I've no idea of what point you both think you're making... what would your reaction be if a hired goon grabbed you by the shoulder and tried to push you in the direction he wanted? Perhaps a biff in the bifocals is a bit unnecessary, but telling him to fk off wouldn't be out of line!

Tim, I think I might start with "excuse me" or maybe "please don't touch me" first.

[Collectingbrass]

TheDeuce said:

Sandpit Steve said:

TheDeuce said:

Hustle_ said:

I imagine coolant in F1 has approximately zero water in it?

Got me to google it now..

https://motorsport.tech/formula-1/car-cooling-syst...

Watching back the last couple of laps from his onboard, they were troubleshooting an issue with high engine temps before he retired, that was leading to the PU derating on the straights. Guess would be low water pressure due to a leak somewhere in the system, that was going to be unrecoverable. Not sure George was expecting the call to box though, I think he thought they could work through it.

The coolant itself is, as your link suggests, a pressurised water/glycol mix, and they use the minimum amount of cooling they can get away with for the circuit conditions, as the cooling inlets and outlets affect the aerodynamic performance of the car Whatever the issue was, it wasn’t something they could fix by removing some tape from the radiator inlet.

I don't think anyone was suggesting it could be fixed by adjusting airflow - we were just having a separate discussion about how far they push cooling system even at lower temp circuits.

I agree that whatever the cause of the pressure drop, in a relatively small volume and high pressure cooling system, the tiniest leak would quickly drop the pressure, in turn dropping the boiling point of the coolant - it would only get worse from that point and there is no rapid fix possible. Hitting the 'retire' button probably couldn't happen fast enough once they confirmed the pressure drop.

Sad for GR! Although as noted earlier, Lewis had a no fault DNF this season too, these things happen.

They should have dropped an egg in and kept going

[TheDeuce]

Collectingbrass said:

TheDeuce said:

Sandpit Steve said:

TheDeuce said:

Hustle_ said:

I imagine coolant in F1 has approximately zero water in it?

Got me to google it now..

https://motorsport.tech/formula-1/car-cooling-syst...

Watching back the last couple of laps from his onboard, they were troubleshooting an issue with high engine temps before he retired, that was leading to the PU derating on the straights. Guess would be low water pressure due to a leak somewhere in the system, that was going to be unrecoverable. Not sure George was expecting the call to box though, I think he thought they could work through it.

The coolant itself is, as your link suggests, a pressurised water/glycol mix, and they use the minimum amount of cooling they can get away with for the circuit conditions, as the cooling inlets and outlets affect the aerodynamic performance of the car Whatever the issue was, it wasn’t something they could fix by removing some tape from the radiator inlet.

I don't think anyone was suggesting it could be fixed by adjusting airflow - we were just having a separate discussion about how far they push cooling system even at lower temp circuits.

I agree that whatever the cause of the pressure drop, in a relatively small volume and high pressure cooling system, the tiniest leak would quickly drop the pressure, in turn dropping the boiling point of the coolant - it would only get worse from that point and there is no rapid fix possible. Hitting the 'retire' button probably couldn't happen fast enough once they confirmed the pressure drop.

Sad for GR! Although as noted earlier, Lewis had a no fault DNF this season too, these things happen.

They should have dropped an egg in and kept going

visions of a junior engineer legging it down to catering to grab an egg - only to return 5 minutes later and discover it's hard boiled

[Tim the pool man]

PlywoodPascal said:

Tim, I think I might start with "excuse me" or maybe "please don't touch me" first.

It just occurred to me, perhaps I've lived in Australia too long!

[silentbrown]

Tim the pool man said:

I've no idea of what point you both think you're making... what would your reaction be if a hired goon grabbed you by the shoulder and tried to push you in the direction he wanted? Perhaps a biff in the bifocals is a bit unnecessary, but telling him to fk off wouldn't be out of line!

Hardly grabbing or pushing. @4:00


Maybe impolite, but it's not like Brundle is in the middle of talking to someone, or doing a vital piece to camera.

[Tim the pool man]

silentbrown said:

Hardly grabbing or pushing. @4:00


Maybe impolite, but it's not like Brundle is in the middle of talking to someone, or doing a vital piece to camera.

Yikes... hands up, I got that wrong! Nowhere near as bad as I recalled! In my defence... it was 10PM Sunday night and several bourbons in

[hondajack85]

Having missed the brundle walk I was led to think he snubbed the new minister chap, but it seemed fine to me,though a bit brief.
Maybe brundle spent ages sucking up to Norfolk tory bonehead Liz truss and all his efforts now seem wasted lol.
Having said that maybe they put some sort of tax on the smug wasteful world of F1 just to see the look on its face.

[Tim the pool man]

hondajack85 said:

Having missed the brundle walk I was led to think he snubbed the new minister chap, but it seemed fine to me,though a bit brief.
Maybe brundle spent ages sucking up to Norfolk tory bonehead Liz truss and all his efforts now seem wasted lol.
Having said that maybe they put some sort of tax on the smug wasteful world of F1 just to see the look on its face.

"Wasteful"?! Do you have any idea of the number of people employed? The technology being developed through F1?

[TheDeuce]

Tim the pool man said:

hondajack85 said:

Having missed the brundle walk I was led to think he snubbed the new minister chap, but it seemed fine to me,though a bit brief.
Maybe brundle spent ages sucking up to Norfolk tory bonehead Liz truss and all his efforts now seem wasted lol.
Having said that maybe they put some sort of tax on the smug wasteful world of F1 just to see the look on its face.

"Wasteful"?! Do you have any idea of the number of people employed? The technology being developed through F1?

Plus the fact that a few years ago the overall cost of F1 involvement probably reduced by around 40% as an average.

I could have sworn the UK was very happy about F1 when there were emergency ventilators needing to be made ASAP, which the sport assisted with. Also around that time I imagine the UK's sports fans were quite happy that F1 developed and proved a sufficiently safe way of commencing the sport whilst the covid threat still remained significant across the world - football and other sports were then able to adopt the same practices.

The government (whichever government...) in the UK has long viewed F1 favourably and as an important, valuable, largely British led sporting series.

I doubt very much they're going to invent an 'F1 tax' and risk all those famous teams uprooting from Britain and pissing off somewhere cheaper!

[braddo]

hondajack85 said:

Having missed the brundle walk I was led to think he snubbed the new minister chap, but it seemed fine to me,though a bit brief.

He might have been concerned about the TV impartiality aspect too - not wanting a politician (of any stripe) turning a chat into a political broadcast. A bit of pre-planning to meet on the walk might have led to a better interaction.