Cyclist posts video of London road rage assault online

[martin84]

will_ said:

If you're about to mention red lights, I'll happily mention speed limits, mobile phone use, failing to indicate, failing to check mirrors, sewerving accross lanes of traffic and - just for fun - red lights too.

For the danger to be realised someone has to make a mistake - why do you say that the cyclist is the one making the mistake (presumably with their "piss poor" attitude) when all that I have read shows that cyclists are responsible for a very small percentage of bike/car collisions?

To be fair to cyclists on the red lights thing there has been some suggestions that it helps with congestion rather than adding to it. If the cyclist is long clear of the junction by the time the lights go green less cars are held up and more can get through.

I think what the above poster might be trying to say is just because the statistics show cyclists are responsible for a very low portion of accidents of any type that tends to feed some cyclists ego and make them think its ok to skip over the odd rule from time to time that a motorist wouldnt get away with. But the ones most responsible for that thinking are the 'militant' cyclists who tend to post online about how much they hate motorists etc, im sure the rest of them have better things to do.

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martin84 said:

To be fair to cyclists on the red lights thing there has been some suggestions that it helps with congestion rather than adding to it. If the cyclist is long clear of the junction by the time the lights go green less cars are held up and more can get through.

I think what the above poster might be trying to say is just because the statistics show cyclists are responsible for a very low portion of accidents of any type that tends to feed some cyclists ego and make them think its ok to skip over the odd rule from time to time that a motorist wouldnt get away with. But the ones most responsible for that thinking are the 'militant' cyclists who tend to post online about how much they hate motorists etc, im sure the rest of them have better things to do.

To be fair to cars on the red lights thing there has been some suggestions that it helps with congestion rather than adding to it. If the car is long clear of the junction by the time the lights go green less cars are held up and more can get through.

[martin84]

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To be fair to cars on the red lights thing there has been some suggestions that it helps with congestion rather than adding to it. If the car is long clear of the junction by the time the lights go green less cars are held up and more can get through.

You know thats not what i meant. But hey lets run with it!

[Vipers]

XitUp said:

http://gothamist.com/2011/07/22/video_drivers_dumb...

Watched that, and can't figure how by missing the bridge they could end up where they heading to in the first place.

[ChiChoAndy]

Did you spot the cyclist with no lights zooming out into traffic?

[Mr Snap]

Nige_GTI said:

ditto

Bloody PH formatting.

My statement still stands, Ive never seen a car drive on the pavement!

Edited by Nige_GTI on Thursday 4th August 17:30

You haven't been looking.

There's a dropped kerb on the junction, to assist the handicapped, opposite my front window. A few yards up the road there's an off licence. Cars use the drop to drive up and park on the pavement to be close to the offie, despite there being double yellows. The pavement is on the end of a terrace so, from an an approaching car, it looks like a blank wall - but it isn't, there's a old woman's front door in the middle.
Some drivers hit the drop at speed (they couldn't do that before it was dropped), some do it at jaw droppingly stupid speeds, not knowing or maybe not caring that someone could step out of the door at any time.
Several times I've seen near misses when people leave the house - mostly visitors who aren't expecting it. One day someone will get hit.

Leaving aside that danger, cars block the pavement most of the day, so that handicapped people, buggies and mums with push chairs have to walk in a busy road to get past - putting them in danger too. Sometimes they park so close to the old ladies front door that she can't actually leave her home.

Every day I witness some kind of incident and I'm sure that I'm not unique, there must be lots of similar junctions. Some drivers think they have a god given right to make life miserable for other people. Some don't think, don't care.

Not only do some cars need slapping, some drivers need a good slapping too.

[Kermit power]

Sometimes people parking like that do get their comeuppance.

I once went to meet my wife at work a few years back to find an artic trying and failing to get out of the tight road her office is on. The reason for this was a Clio parked on double yellows right opposite the exit. This was a junction where it was blatantly obvious that parking was going to cause problems, and there was only about 50 yards of double yellows on the whole road, with parking bays on the rest.

As there were a few people watching the poor sod trying to get his truck out without hitting the car or the lamp post stopping him swinging the trailer over the car park, we decided to take pity on him and bump the Clio down the road so that he could get out. Just as we were about to start, a traffic warden came up and asked us to stop. We explained why we were doing it, to which he said "fine, but let me photograph it and ticket it first".

He photographed it, and we then moved it 30 yards down the road so that the truck could get out. The traffic warden promptly photographed it again in an obviously different location, and ticketed it again.

[Mr Snap]

Kermit power said:

Sometimes people parking like that do get their comeuppance.

I once went to meet my wife at work a few years back to find an artic trying and failing to get out of the tight road her office is on. The reason for this was a Clio parked on double yellows right opposite the exit. This was a junction where it was blatantly obvious that parking was going to cause problems, and there was only about 50 yards of double yellows on the whole road, with parking bays on the rest.

As there were a few people watching the poor sod trying to get his truck out without hitting the car or the lamp post stopping him swinging the trailer over the car park, we decided to take pity on him and bump the Clio down the road so that he could get out. Just as we were about to start, a traffic warden came up and asked us to stop. We explained why we were doing it, to which he said "fine, but let me photograph it and ticket it first".

He photographed it, and we then moved it 30 yards down the road so that the truck could get out. The traffic warden promptly photographed it again in an obviously different location, and ticketed it again.

Love it, but you never see any wardens around this neck of the woods. I think they've given up on the amount of aggro - honestly, they're at it non-stop if they hang around. Of course, being next to a grotty estate doesn't help, if it was in one of the nicer parts of town where the local councillors live...