Mclaren F1 in big accident

[Alfa numeric]

Clivey said:

My point was that surely the later cars were subtly different in many ways and maybe Rowan would consider incorporating some of the later parts (similar to fitting Zonda F brakes to a C12S) into his car's rebuild.

Sorry, I thought that you meant that you thought the other two look better than the original silver one.

I agree with the above though- Flemke's car has been sympathetically upgraded and still retains the magic of the original. I don't think Rowan Atkinson will go down this path as I'm sure I've read (it may have been in this thread) that he's proud of the originality of his car and wants to keep it as it left the factory.

[Frik]

McLaren never went through a major development cycle after the F1 with the same basic car like the other manufacturers have done, beyond the development of the racecars. Therefore there are no major upgrade options available in a similar fashion.

[Welshbeef]

Alfa numeric said:

Sorry, I thought that you meant that you thought the other two look better than the original silver one.

I agree with the above though- Flemke's car has been sympathetically upgraded and still retains the magic of the original. I don't think Rowan Atkinson will go down this path as I'm sure I've read (it may have been in this thread) that he's proud of the originality of his car and wants to keep it as it left the factory.

If that is the case unless he really needs the funds then he will never sell his P&J.

Good for him.

[CraigyMc]

Joe911 said:

Welshbeef said:

Would he fit a more technologically advanced engine? Or upgrade the engine fr more power.

Or is it a case of it's got more than enough as is.

Mmm v12 @ 8500rpm in a macF1

That standard engine is 627 bhp I think. There is an upgrade to the LM spec engine which I think is 670bhp. I think that they will not fit the upgraded engine to a car unless it has the high down-force kit - though I guess if you know the right people, you could get it done.

I think the LM spec engine is 660bhp, but that doesn't matter much.

I really doubt the F1 needs more power- listening to Flemke, he's quite happy with his as it is, and he's in a great position to judge.

C

[Rollcage]

Welshbeef said:

If that is the case unless he really needs the funds then he will never sell his P&J.

Good for him.

I can't see that RA will ever be in a position that he needs to sell cars to keep food on the table, even if they are worth millions!

[The Moose]

To be fair, there was no way that the car wouldn't be put back on the road IMHO

[Clivey]

Alfa numeric said:

I agree with the above though- Flemke's car has been sympathetically upgraded and still retains the magic of the original. I don't think Rowan Atkinson will go down this path as I'm sure I've read (it may have been in this thread) that he's proud of the originality of his car and wants to keep it as it left the factory.

I've not read about Flemke's car (will do so though), but of course - it's up to an owner only what they want to do with their car. I just know that if I had a supercar that needed to be rebuilt, and the manufacturer offered me the option of making the drive even better, I'd consider taking it.

[Dr Interceptor]

Joe911 said:

That standard engine is 627 bhp I think. There is an upgrade to the LM spec engine which I think is 670bhp. I think that they will not fit the upgraded engine to a car unless it has the high down-force kit - though I guess if you know the right people, you could get it done.

Not sure Rowan needs more power

[Sway]

Also, as I understand it, the 627bhp quoted was for a box fresh engine.

I'm sure I remember reading (probably from Flemke), that once a decent few 10's of miles had been added to it, then the power output would increase by a reasonable percentage...

Bloody glad that Rowan is getting it back at some point.

I think if I were in the position, I'd have two, one absolutely as per factory spec to sit in the entrance hall to the gaff, and the other having had Flemke's upgrades after punting a wedge at Flemke's nominated charity. That one would be the daily!!

[Life Saab Itch]

Clivey said:

I've not read about Flemke's car (will do so though), but of course - it's up to an owner only what they want to do with their car. I just know that if I had a supercar that needed to be rebuilt, and the manufacturer offered me the option of making the drive even better, I'd consider taking it.

McLaren don't offer upgrades to the F1. That's why Flemke had to go elsewhere to have to work done on his.

[Clivey]

Life Saab Itch said:

McLaren don't offer upgrades to the F1. That's why Flemke had to go elsewhere to have to work done on his.

Fair enough - as I said I haven't read about that yet. Meanwhile, I'm just glad to hear that Rowan will be back in his car post rebuild.

[hurstg01]

Life Saab Itch said:

McLaren don't offer upgrades to the F1. That's why Flemke had to go elsewhere to have to work done on his.

Depends on how you define 'upgrades'. Mclaren do offer upgrades, like HID lights and uprating the air-con system.

[Clivey]

hurstg01 said:

Depends on how you define 'upgrades'. Mclaren do offer upgrades, like HID lights and uprating the air-con system.

...which is precisely what I was asking about.

[hurstg01]

Clivey said:

hurstg01 said:

Depends on how you define 'upgrades'. Mclaren do offer upgrades, like HID lights and uprating the air-con system.

...which is precisely what I was asking about.

[Welshbeef]

Would anyone consider a Bi Turbo setup on the Macca F1?

Wonder what sort of power that thing could produce.... then of course it would demolish the Veyron and Zonda RF. Awesome.



Shame it hasntdone a power lap of Top Gear so that the youff of today can really see its ability.
Shame everyone doesnt drive one of these or an F40. The world would be a lovely place then.

[Peloton25]

Clivey said:

hurstg01 said:

Depends on how you define 'upgrades'. Mclaren do offer upgrades, like HID lights and uprating the air-con system.

...which is precisely what I was asking about.

Then you'll be pleased to know Atkinson's F1 has had those things for many years now.

>8^)
ER

[Mr Gearchange]

Welshbeef said:

Would anyone consider a Bi Turbo setup on the Macca F1?

Only a moron. It would be like buying The Haywain and then painting a flyover in the background.

[Welshbeef]

Mr Gearchange said:

Only a moron. It would be like buying The Haywain and then painting a flyover in the background.

Let's talk about in theory though.
If say boost was set to 1.5 bar what sort of power gains over the 670bhp would we expect? 300bhp?? More ?

Or for this setup would a supercharger be the only real option to ensure it maintains it's no lag setup

[MitchF1GTR]

It'd still be like finally landing that insanely hot girl and finding she shares the same genitals as yourself, just wrong on so many levels...

Supercharger? Wouldn't fit without significant modification of the inlets. Turbos? Eh.... There was a rumor going that if the V12 could spin to 10,000rpm it'd kick out something like 800-1000hp but I'm not sure about it's reliability at that sort of set up.