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996 sps said:
Don't buy a BMW simples, let's be honest any time anyone buys an M Car they have to worry about a warranty.
Over hyped and over priced badge in my opinion.
God yes, only idiots let marketing have an effect on their life.Over hyped and over priced badge in my opinion.
Oh, you said "simples". Now your opinion is worthless.
E30M3SE said:
That's not exclusive to BMW's and M cars though is it?
If you have an E30 M3 I've no doubt its not even something you have to worry about, the modern M in my opinion is tarnished by the fact a buyer has to worry about warranty, oil use blah blah. I wouldn't own one again, but each to their own. rallycross said:
it sounds like a large number of late model BMW's are being targetted, what happens to them, if there is large volume where do they disappear to?
My guess would be Africa....not many questions asked by the buyers. Maybe even dismantled for parts ?I still don't understand how they get in the car without setting the alarm off unless they are grabbing the key signal then using this device. I am hoping that because my car has comfort access and that I never use the ket to lock the car that means mine can't be grabbed......
Motorrad said:
Last time I saw the disklok mentioned here someone claimed he could remove one easily without the key. He was asked to provide proof but didn't. I concluded he was talking bks as every report I've ever read involving lost keys involves a lengthy period of cutting and drilling by a locksmith.
Bit of a pain in the arse using one every time you get in and out of your 30k+ daily driver however.
There was a big scandal in the bike world a few years back about a certain type of lock, can't recall the name, but which could be opened very easily with a biro just by pushing in certain pins (one of those locks which has a circular hollow key). If the Disklok has the same type of lock this could be the approach.Bit of a pain in the arse using one every time you get in and out of your 30k+ daily driver however.
Cheib said:
I still don't understand how they get in the car without setting the alarm off unless they are grabbing the key signal then using this device.
As I mentioned in another thread, it seems that the location of the ODB port is a dead zone for the alarm. Apparently if you know what you're doing you can break the window and connect to the ODB port without activating the alarm.C8PPO said:
There was a big scandal in the bike world a few years back about a certain type of lock, can't recall the name, but which could be opened very easily with a biro just by pushing in certain pins (one of those locks which has a circular hollow key). If the Disklok has the same type of lock this could be the approach.
the proper disklok (the round yellow one that covers the steering wheel) has a security key that can't be picked (I own one).djfaulkner said:
Probably a stupid question - but...........
The cars which have been stolen do they have keyless entry and start?
IE - You just need the fob/card in your pocket rather than pressing a button to unlock the car
Mine had, but they broke the lock to get in. They started the car using a laptop or so the Police thought.The cars which have been stolen do they have keyless entry and start?
IE - You just need the fob/card in your pocket rather than pressing a button to unlock the car
CoolHands said:
C8PPO said:
There was a big scandal in the bike world a few years back about a certain type of lock, can't recall the name, but which could be opened very easily with a biro just by pushing in certain pins (one of those locks which has a circular hollow key). If the Disklok has the same type of lock this could be the approach.
the proper disklok (the round yellow one that covers the steering wheel) has a security key that can't be picked (I own one).This is in no way a stab at anybody who has had their car taken or anybody that has posted on this thread but what do you expect BMW to actually do?
Realistically what can they really do. Yes they can change the software or whatever has been used in newer cars but could they recall all current cars an update this?
Everybody keeps shouting for BMW to do something but what do you want them to do?
Realistically what can they really do. Yes they can change the software or whatever has been used in newer cars but could they recall all current cars an update this?
Everybody keeps shouting for BMW to do something but what do you want them to do?
DaveH23 said:
Realistically what can they really do. Yes they can change the software or whatever has been used in newer cars but could they recall all current cars an update this?
Erm, yes they could. My E61 is being recalled for some other electical fault so why not do this at the same time? Alternatively they could do it at the next service. (if indeed a 'soft' solution is possible)theaxe said:
DaveH23 said:
Realistically what can they really do. Yes they can change the software or whatever has been used in newer cars but could they recall all current cars an update this?
Erm, yes they could. My E61 is being recalled for some other electical fault so why not do this at the same time? Alternatively they could do it at the next service. (if indeed a 'soft' solution is possible)Im genuinely interested in what they can actually do.
DaveH23 said:
This is in no way a stab at anybody who has had their car taken or anybody that has posted on this thread but what do you expect BMW to actually do?
Realistically what can they really do. Yes they can change the software or whatever has been used in newer cars but could they recall all current cars an update this?
Of course they could. Not only 'could' they, I think it's their obligation to do so if there's such a fundamental flaw.Realistically what can they really do. Yes they can change the software or whatever has been used in newer cars but could they recall all current cars an update this?
It might be expensive, but it's far cheaper than losing your reputation.
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