BMW Thefts

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Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

264 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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996 sps said:
Don't buy a BMW simples, let's be honest any time anyone buys an M Car they have to worry about a warranty.

Over hyped and over priced badge in my opinion.
God yes, only idiots let marketing have an effect on their life.

Oh, you said "simples". Now your opinion is worthless.

E30M3SE

8,465 posts

195 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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996 sps said:
Don't buy a BMW simples, let's be honest any time anyone buys an M Car they have to worry about a warranty.
That's not exclusive to BMW's and M cars though is it?




996 sps

6,165 posts

215 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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E30M3SE said:
That's not exclusive to BMW's and M cars though is it?
If you have an E30 M3 I've no doubt its not even something you have to worry about, the modern M in my opinion is tarnished by the fact a buyer has to worry about warranty, oil use blah blah. I wouldn't own one again, but each to their own.

E30M3SE

8,465 posts

195 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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Would you run a Porsche 997, Cayman, Boxster, RS4, RS6 to mention just a few without a warranty or a large 'bork' chest?

Mr Gear

9,416 posts

189 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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3 cars have been nicked from my road in the last two years.... three of which were late-model BMWs.

dhariwab

618 posts

150 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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Tbf our local police (west midlands) warned bmw owners on bank holiday monday to up security after a spate of thefts here using these devices

rallycross

12,747 posts

236 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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it sounds like a large number of late model BMW's are being targetted, what happens to them, if there is large volume where do they disappear to?

Vladimir

6,917 posts

157 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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Not sure if ours is late model any more (2006) but it appears to have the "right" sort of engine for tealeaves. Will approach London and Brum with caution!!

Zod

35,295 posts

257 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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Happened to my 2006 M5 last year, six months before I sold it (Tracker recovered it quickly). I wrote to the BMK UK MD to express my concern, given that I'd just bought another expensive BMW and was given bland reassurances.

Cheib

23,112 posts

174 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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rallycross said:
it sounds like a large number of late model BMW's are being targetted, what happens to them, if there is large volume where do they disappear to?
My guess would be Africa....not many questions asked by the buyers. Maybe even dismantled for parts ?

I still don't understand how they get in the car without setting the alarm off unless they are grabbing the key signal then using this device. I am hoping that because my car has comfort access and that I never use the ket to lock the car that means mine can't be grabbed......

C8PPO

19,532 posts

202 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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Motorrad said:
Last time I saw the disklok mentioned here someone claimed he could remove one easily without the key. He was asked to provide proof but didn't. I concluded he was talking bks as every report I've ever read involving lost keys involves a lengthy period of cutting and drilling by a locksmith.

Bit of a pain in the arse using one every time you get in and out of your 30k+ daily driver however.
There was a big scandal in the bike world a few years back about a certain type of lock, can't recall the name, but which could be opened very easily with a biro just by pushing in certain pins (one of those locks which has a circular hollow key). If the Disklok has the same type of lock this could be the approach.

GoodDoc

559 posts

175 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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Cheib said:
I still don't understand how they get in the car without setting the alarm off unless they are grabbing the key signal then using this device.
As I mentioned in another thread, it seems that the location of the ODB port is a dead zone for the alarm. Apparently if you know what you're doing you can break the window and connect to the ODB port without activating the alarm.

djfaulkner

1,103 posts

217 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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Probably a stupid question - but...........

The cars which have been stolen do they have keyless entry and start?
IE - You just need the fob/card in your pocket rather than pressing a button to unlock the car








CoolHands

18,496 posts

194 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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C8PPO said:
There was a big scandal in the bike world a few years back about a certain type of lock, can't recall the name, but which could be opened very easily with a biro just by pushing in certain pins (one of those locks which has a circular hollow key). If the Disklok has the same type of lock this could be the approach.
the proper disklok (the round yellow one that covers the steering wheel) has a security key that can't be picked (I own one).

Zod

35,295 posts

257 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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djfaulkner said:
Probably a stupid question - but...........

The cars which have been stolen do they have keyless entry and start?
IE - You just need the fob/card in your pocket rather than pressing a button to unlock the car
Mine had, but they broke the lock to get in. They started the car using a laptop or so the Police thought.

paulrussell

2,084 posts

160 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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CoolHands said:
C8PPO said:
There was a big scandal in the bike world a few years back about a certain type of lock, can't recall the name, but which could be opened very easily with a biro just by pushing in certain pins (one of those locks which has a circular hollow key). If the Disklok has the same type of lock this could be the approach.
the proper disklok (the round yellow one that covers the steering wheel) has a security key that can't be picked (I own one).
Every lock that uses a key can be picked, though the decent locks take a very long time, so locksmiths use other ways to overcome those locks.

DaveH23

3,230 posts

169 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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This is in no way a stab at anybody who has had their car taken or anybody that has posted on this thread but what do you expect BMW to actually do?

Realistically what can they really do. Yes they can change the software or whatever has been used in newer cars but could they recall all current cars an update this?

Everybody keeps shouting for BMW to do something but what do you want them to do?




theaxe

3,557 posts

221 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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DaveH23 said:
Realistically what can they really do. Yes they can change the software or whatever has been used in newer cars but could they recall all current cars an update this?
Erm, yes they could. My E61 is being recalled for some other electical fault so why not do this at the same time? Alternatively they could do it at the next service. (if indeed a 'soft' solution is possible)

DaveH23

3,230 posts

169 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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theaxe said:
DaveH23 said:
Realistically what can they really do. Yes they can change the software or whatever has been used in newer cars but could they recall all current cars an update this?
Erm, yes they could. My E61 is being recalled for some other electical fault so why not do this at the same time? Alternatively they could do it at the next service. (if indeed a 'soft' solution is possible)
Like I said its not a stab at anybody so less of the erm... fella!!!!

Im genuinely interested in what they can actually do.

MX7

7,902 posts

173 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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DaveH23 said:
This is in no way a stab at anybody who has had their car taken or anybody that has posted on this thread but what do you expect BMW to actually do?

Realistically what can they really do. Yes they can change the software or whatever has been used in newer cars but could they recall all current cars an update this?
Of course they could. Not only 'could' they, I think it's their obligation to do so if there's such a fundamental flaw.

It might be expensive, but it's far cheaper than losing your reputation.