Cars you didn't know existed...

Cars you didn't know existed...

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carinaman

16,469 posts

135 months

Thursday 26th March 2020
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BFleming said:
Brazil also gave us some other gems. Gems, in the loosest sense...
I like both of those Fiats, the red Tempra two door more, as the other looks like a 127 with minimal changes.

StescoG66

1,411 posts

106 months

Thursday 26th March 2020
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BFleming said:
Brazil model as it turns out.

Brazil also gave us some other gems. Gems, in the loosest sense...

I always liked the Tempra. Bloody good and under rated car in its day. That 2 door looks good (but I always liked 2.door saloons..)

The 127 is not a Brazil special- Europe (but not the UK) had the 127 Rustica painted in a fetching shade of hearing aid beige.....


s m

20,352 posts

166 months

Thursday 26th March 2020
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StescoG66 said:
I always liked the Tempra. Bloody good and under rated car in its day. That 2 door looks good (but I always liked 2.door saloons..)

The 127 is not a Brazil special- Europe (but not the UK) had the 127 Rustica painted in a fetching shade of hearing aid beige.....
Like the Ford Verona/VW Apollo ...... (think of a 2-door Orion)



MarkwG

2,827 posts

152 months

Thursday 26th March 2020
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2xChevrons said:
The talk about Cavaliers a page or so back lead me to some wiki-walking. Vauxhalls/Opels are not what I'd consider my area of automotive expertise so I had a genuine "cars I didn't know existed moment" which might seem very obvious to some of you:



I had no idea that the Mk1 Cavalier was available as a Coupe. I knew about the Sporthatch, and I knew that that was a Griffin-ised Manta B CC. I also knew that the Manta B was available as a three-box coupe (the Berlinetta). I just never joined the dots to realise that Vauxhall offered a version of that, too.
I confess my initial reaction was "really?!?!", then looked a little harder at that photo - growing up, Cavalier coupes were almost as thick as fleas on a dog, but I've never seen a LHD one - I figured they'd always be Opel Mantas.

LuS1fer

37,320 posts

208 months

Thursday 26th March 2020
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The problem with the Cavalier Coupe was that the Manta was better looking.

While the saloon was popular for the Manta style front, I still preferred the Ascona myself.

BFleming

2,693 posts

106 months

Thursday 26th March 2020
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StescoG66 said:
BFleming said:
Brazil also gave us some other gems. Gems, in the loosest sense...

The 127 is not a Brazil special- Europe (but not the UK) had the 127 Rustica painted in a fetching shade of hearing aid beige.....
Ah, but this is a Fiat 147 laugh A 127 for Brazil with some alternative engine choices.

Fast Bug

9,165 posts

124 months

Thursday 26th March 2020
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BFleming said:
StescoG66 said:
BFleming said:
Brazil also gave us some other gems. Gems, in the loosest sense...

The 127 is not a Brazil special- Europe (but not the UK) had the 127 Rustica painted in a fetching shade of hearing aid beige.....
Ah, but this is a Fiat 147 laugh A 127 for Brazil with some alternative engine choices.
Which spawned the Oggi



And the Panorama



I went round the Fiat factory in Turkey once, they had some oddball stuff in their museum

BFleming

2,693 posts

106 months

Thursday 26th March 2020
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Fast Bug said:
Which spawned the Oggi



And the Panorama



I went round the Fiat factory in Turkey once, they had some oddball stuff in their museum
Fantastic. That Oggi thing (127/128ish) looks like it would be a blast. FWD though.

ElectricSoup

7,462 posts

114 months

Thursday 26th March 2020
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MarkwG said:
2xChevrons said:
The talk about Cavaliers a page or so back lead me to some wiki-walking. Vauxhalls/Opels are not what I'd consider my area of automotive expertise so I had a genuine "cars I didn't know existed moment" which might seem very obvious to some of you:



I had no idea that the Mk1 Cavalier was available as a Coupe. I knew about the Sporthatch, and I knew that that was a Griffin-ised Manta B CC. I also knew that the Manta B was available as a three-box coupe (the Berlinetta). I just never joined the dots to realise that Vauxhall offered a version of that, too.
I confess my initial reaction was "really?!?!", then looked a little harder at that photo - growing up, Cavalier coupes were almost as thick as fleas on a dog, but I've never seen a LHD one - I figured they'd always be Opel Mantas.
Can anyone identify the nationality of the number plate on that LHD Cavalier? Is it Scandinavian? Are there any LHD markets where Vauxhall was sold alongside Opel?

Loose_Cannon

1,491 posts

216 months

Thursday 26th March 2020
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Funny thread this, one which I've avoided so far because if anything it's just a reminder I'm getting older than I want to be!

I keep imagining crusties like me shaking their heads at the screen because some relative sprog is scratching his head over a 70s kit car, meanwhile said sprog will be utterly dumbstruck why people my age can't identify a 2019 Hyundai.

Anyhow, this is my first contribution. Be gentle and pardon me if its mentioned 15 pages back or something. I had no idea this exsited, and can't honestly explain why it does especially at £45 grand used. The 2017 Infiniti QX80, a car which makes the Saangyong Musso look passable;






NomduJour

15,146 posts

222 months

Thursday 26th March 2020
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ElectricSoup said:
Is it Scandinavian? Are there any LHD markets where Vauxhall was sold alongside Opel?
Yes, and yes.

Jimmy Recard

17,343 posts

142 months

Thursday 26th March 2020
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I feel like I heard once that Vauxhall used to manage reasonable sales in Denmark but I'm not sure about that

swisstoni

10,362 posts

242 months

Thursday 26th March 2020
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Loose_Cannon said:
Funny thread this, one which I've avoided so far because if anything it's just a reminder I'm getting older than I want to be!

I keep imagining crusties like me shaking their heads at the screen because some relative sprog is scratching his head over a 70s kit car, meanwhile said sprog will be utterly dumbstruck why people my age can't identify a 2019 Hyundai.

Anyhow, this is my first contribution. Be gentle and pardon me if its mentioned 15 pages back or something. I had no idea this exsited, and can't honestly explain why it does especially at £45 grand used. The 2017 Infiniti QX80, a car which makes the Saangyong Musso look passable;





There’s a whole class of SUVs we don’t get over here. I only came across them when I was in the Middle East for a while.
Massive lexus etc. All munters as far as I could make out.

manracer

1,239 posts

60 months

Thursday 26th March 2020
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swisstoni said:
Loose_Cannon said:
Funny thread this, one which I've avoided so far because if anything it's just a reminder I'm getting older than I want to be!

I keep imagining crusties like me shaking their heads at the screen because some relative sprog is scratching his head over a 70s kit car, meanwhile said sprog will be utterly dumbstruck why people my age can't identify a 2019 Hyundai.

Anyhow, this is my first contribution. Be gentle and pardon me if its mentioned 15 pages back or something. I had no idea this exsited, and can't honestly explain why it does especially at £45 grand used. The 2017 Infiniti QX80, a car which makes the Saangyong Musso look passable;





There’s a whole class of SUVs we don’t get over here. I only came across them when I was in the Middle East for a while.
Massive lexus etc. All munters as far as I could make out.
I passed one of these on french plates on the M56 recently, friend said it was a LFC footballer.

Huge thing, seemed like it would dwarf a Range Rover

Dapster

4,864 posts

143 months

Thursday 26th March 2020
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ElectricSoup said:
MarkwG said:
2xChevrons said:
The talk about Cavaliers a page or so back lead me to some wiki-walking. Vauxhalls/Opels are not what I'd consider my area of automotive expertise so I had a genuine "cars I didn't know existed moment" which might seem very obvious to some of you:



I had no idea that the Mk1 Cavalier was available as a Coupe. I knew about the Sporthatch, and I knew that that was a Griffin-ised Manta B CC. I also knew that the Manta B was available as a three-box coupe (the Berlinetta). I just never joined the dots to realise that Vauxhall offered a version of that, too.
I confess my initial reaction was "really?!?!", then looked a little harder at that photo - growing up, Cavalier coupes were almost as thick as fleas on a dog, but I've never seen a LHD one - I figured they'd always be Opel Mantas.
Can anyone identify the nationality of the number plate on that LHD Cavalier? Is it Scandinavian? Are there any LHD markets where Vauxhall was sold alongside Opel?
It's Swedish.



Dapster

4,864 posts

143 months

Thursday 26th March 2020
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Meridius said:
...like the Audi 100 Coupe,... it would seem Porsche used a few of them as 928 testbed where they were wider with a different floor and front-engined V8 RWD layout.
Proper Frankenstein's monster of a car.

Built in 1974, Porsche shoe horned the V8 into the 100S shell, and had to widen the arches front and rear. The rear edge of the bonnet had to be lifted clear of the back of the engine too - you can just make out the extensions on the hinge on the top photo.






BFleming

2,693 posts

106 months

Thursday 26th March 2020
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ElectricSoup said:
Can anyone identify the nationality of the number plate on that LHD Cavalier? Is it Scandinavian? Are there any LHD markets where Vauxhall was sold alongside Opel?
Swedish plate I think. It seems that before 1981, Vauxhall sold cars in Europe, in left hand drive guise, but it's widely thought they these were built by Opel on the continent. After 1981, Vauxhall was a UK-only brand.


The Moose

20,671 posts

172 months

Thursday 26th March 2020
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Loose_Cannon said:
Funny thread this, one which I've avoided so far because if anything it's just a reminder I'm getting older than I want to be!

I keep imagining crusties like me shaking their heads at the screen because some relative sprog is scratching his head over a 70s kit car, meanwhile said sprog will be utterly dumbstruck why people my age can't identify a 2019 Hyundai.

Anyhow, this is my first contribution. Be gentle and pardon me if its mentioned 15 pages back or something. I had no idea this exsited, and can't honestly explain why it does especially at £45 grand used. The 2017 Infiniti QX80, a car which makes the Saangyong Musso look passable;





Great cars. Upmarket Nissan Armada.

BigRusko

210 posts

57 months

Thursday 26th March 2020
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Not sure if this has been mentioned previously, more a one off (thank God)




https://carnewschina.com/2014/08/04/meet-the-audi-...

ZiggyNiva

991 posts

149 months

Thursday 26th March 2020
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https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/el20/the-elkhar...

Alfa TZ3 Stradale Zagato. Found this when looking at Alfa SZ's. Never seen heard of it before,
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