Cars you didn't know existed...

Cars you didn't know existed...

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thebigmacmoomin

2,411 posts

121 months

Thursday 26th March
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Saw this in my Facebook news feed.

Ford Ka + ST from Brazil




Dapster

3,462 posts

132 months

Thursday 26th March
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thebigmacmoomin said:
Saw this in my Facebook news feed.

Ford Ka + ST from Brazil

Needs smaller rear wheels!!

Vocht

1,426 posts

116 months

Thursday 26th March
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thebigmacmoomin said:
Saw this in my Facebook news feed.

Ford Ka + ST from Brazil



That is so weird that I actually like it...

Meridius

1,310 posts

104 months

Thursday 26th March
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Dapster said:
Meridius said:
...like the Audi 100 Coupe,... it would seem Porsche used a few of them as 928 testbed where they were wider with a different floor and front-engined V8 RWD layout.
Proper Frankenstein's monster of a car.

Built in 1974, Porsche shoe horned the V8 into the 100S shell, and had to widen the arches front and rear. The rear edge of the bonnet had to be lifted clear of the back of the engine too - you can just make out the extensions on the hinge on the top photo.





Looks even cooler with the wider arches.

If Audi had made a successful RWD out of that 100 Coupe, could have changed their future lineup as the Audi Quattro was the successor... RWD 5 cylinder turbo anyone?

Fast Bug

7,987 posts

113 months

Thursday 26th March
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BigRusko said:
Not sure if this has been mentioned previously, more a one off (thank God)




https://carnewschina.com/2014/08/04/meet-the-audi-...
Whilst that was a one off, this was something you could actually buy







The Hongqi CA1021. It was in a link at the bottom of the page you linked

Hugh Jarse

3,234 posts

157 months

Thursday 26th March
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finlo

1,782 posts

155 months

Thursday 26th March
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Hugh Jarse said:
Equally as ugly as its Rolls Royce sibling.

BFleming

1,905 posts

95 months

Friday 27th March
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Hugh Jarse said:
Mercedes Benz 300 SEL 6.3 Pininfarina Coupe. Decent write up on the history here: https://drive-my.com/en/test-drive/item/1769-merce...

Shakermaker

10,776 posts

52 months

Friday 27th March
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BigRusko said:
Not sure if this has been mentioned previously, more a one off (thank God)




https://carnewschina.com/2014/08/04/meet-the-audi-...
I saw something similar, albeit with a Mercedes instead of an Audi, last time I went to the banger races, it looked like they'd just taken the boot and rear window from one of those C-class coupes and made it into a parade vehicle

saaby93

26,348 posts

130 months

Matt Cup

1,568 posts

56 months

Friday 27th March
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Dapster said:
Meridius said:
...like the Audi 100 Coupe,... it would seem Porsche used a few of them as 928 testbed where they were wider with a different floor and front-engined V8 RWD layout.
Proper Frankenstein's monster of a car.

Built in 1974, Porsche shoe horned the V8 into the 100S shell, and had to widen the arches front and rear. The rear edge of the bonnet had to be lifted clear of the back of the engine too - you can just make out the extensions on the hinge on the top photo.





This is proper cool, the rear end has the look of an Alfa GTV.

Has anyone else got any interesting test mules.



Hobbes003

22 posts

6 months

Friday 27th March
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So, you probably know about the Mercedes 300 SEL 6.3 raced by AMG, a.k.a. the Rote Sau:



But did you know it had a second career?
When AMG retired this car, they sold it to Matra, who were looking for a fast, large vehicle to test landing gear components and/or tires for jet fighters. Apparently, no other vehicle was able to get up to the takeoff speed of a jet.

They stretched the car, and installed the test systems in the back. The bin just ahead of the rear axle contains an aircraft wheel and tyre, plus a suspension system to press the tire onto the track at varying pressure.





At the end of its useful life, the car was scrapped around 1991.

BFleming

1,905 posts

95 months

Friday 27th March
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Hobbes003 said:
So, you probably know about the Mercedes 300 SEL 6.3 raced by AMG, a.k.a. the Rote Sau:
That is awesome - great find.

There's a Rote Sau recreation for sale in Spain if anyone's interested... https://www.autoscout24.nl/aanbod/mercedes-benz-30...

Dapster

3,462 posts

132 months

Friday 27th March
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Matt Cup said:
This is proper cool, the rear end has the look of an Alfa GTV.

Has anyone else got any interesting test mules.
Porsche mule to test a watercooled V8 front engined application from the early 90's. Note the super wide rear arches. Seen here in the Porsche Museum









Spring 1972 and an Opel Manta is pulling a Beetle up an Alpine pass....




Or is it....???

It's Porsche testing the 924 running gear




Maestro Van used as a Freelander pre production mule






Unassuming Metro Van used for the mid engine 6R4 development






944 Cab used as the Boxster mule






In order to speed up the development of the CLK GTR for the FIA GT Championship in 1997, Mercedes used a McLaren F1 mule onto which it attached the prototype CLK bodywork and their own LS600 6.0 V12 in place of the BMW V12. Mercedes didn't have a long relationship with McLaren at the time, so had to purchase chassis #11 from Larbre Compétition. The head start the McLaren gave Mercedes allowed it to get the CLK running within 5 months of conception.

F1 chassis #11 running the Mercedes bodywork



Here are a few more images of it testing at Jarama including the final one after Bernd Schneider put it in the wall. You can just see the "..enz" of Mercedes Benz on the left of the image on the backdrop.












Three years after the events at Jarama, the car emerged on the auction floor of RM Sotheby’s. The car had received a full restoration including a new BMW S70/2 V12, correct bodywork and its original Franck Muller Watch orange/black livery

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/w88jdj3/




Edited by Dapster on Friday 27th March 16:24

ajprice

17,119 posts

148 months

Friday 27th March
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Matt Cup said:
This is proper cool, the rear end has the look of an Alfa GTV.

Has anyone else got any interesting test mules.
Ultimas were used as test cars for the McLaren F1 https://www.ultimasports.co.uk/History/McLaren


TVR Cerberas were used as test cars for the Mercedes McLaren SLR, the big nose bonnet on the TVR turned into the F1 nosecone bonnet on the SLR https://www.tvrblog.com/tvr-cerbera-mercedes-slr-p...


Matt Cup

1,568 posts

56 months

Friday 27th March
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Great updates!

That Frankenstein Maestro/Freelander looks like something that had been thrown together in someone’s garden.

BFleming

1,905 posts

95 months

Friday 27th March
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Matt Cup said:
Great updates!

That Frankenstein Maestro/Freelander looks like something that had been thrown together in someone’s garden.
No, the build quality wasn't that good biggrin

Dapster

3,462 posts

132 months

Friday 27th March
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BFleming said:
Hobbes003 said:
So, you probably know about the Mercedes 300 SEL 6.3 raced by AMG, a.k.a. the Rote Sau:
That is awesome - great find.

There's a Rote Sau recreation for sale in Spain if anyone's interested... https://www.autoscout24.nl/aanbod/mercedes-benz-30...
Another one sold for €432k last month - looks amazing



https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/pa20/paris/lots...

biggbn

3,434 posts

172 months

Friday 27th March
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The metro van must be the ultimate sleeper!!

grumpy52

4,232 posts

118 months

Friday 27th March
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My good friend has one of only two Lotus Elan S2 convertibles in his workshop for a strip and respray.
I always thought that the S2 was only ever a hard top/coupe .
It's a factory official car and not a later chop job .
He does get some weird and wonderful creations in for work .
The strangest was something very close to the car in the opening titles of the Pink Panther Show from the TV
It had an open mid mounted Jag v12 with an auto box coupled by a belt drive to the rear axle , unfortunately the belt drive lacked tensioners so the drive stuttered and jumped all over the place .
It had an aircraft type tail fin and the cockpit had a Gnat Jet canopy , the driving position was infront of the front wheels . Unfortunately I never took any photos of the car . It's an understanding that photos are not released of customers cars without permission. The vehicle was used for some promo work for the Ordnance Survey. The car was bright red and looked a bit like a road going Red Arrow .