Cars you didn't know existed...

Cars you didn't know existed...

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Kolbenkopp

2,342 posts

115 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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poing said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
threespires said:
I found these Jaguars on line

that's Düsseldorf, Oberkassel, in the background they are setting up the 'Großte Kirmes am Rhein' funfair

I also think it's photoshopped wink
As a former regular visitor to those parts you got me more interested in the background than the cars! A rather wonderful blast from the past.
Gee, and I live on the other side of the river (Flingern) and thought, "Hm. looks a bit familiar?" Really need to get out more. Oh wait :-/.

MarkwG

2,908 posts

153 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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https://viaretro.com/2019/01/new-to-me-the-trendse... - two new/old ones to me - Victress & La Dawri; intriguing machines.

Red Devil

12,437 posts

172 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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Benni said:
Fast Bug said:
AstonZagato said:
Vauxhall XVR concept
Shades of Opel GT in that
...and of the Cheetah "for when an AC Cobra is too soft"
yes

https://classiccarcuration.co.uk/the-vauxhall-xvr-...





You need cojones of tungsten to drive a Cheetah. While getting fried as well: your legs sit alongside the engine with the exhaust headers passing over them. eek
Had things panned out differently Thomas could have been the equivalent to GM as Shelby was to Ford.

Tatra 87. 'Suicide' front doors and air coooled V8 rear engine.




21st Century Man

35,293 posts

212 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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The Germans banned it's Officers from requisitioning and driving those during the war. It was fast for the time and with all the weight hung out behind the rear axle, it killed so many it became known as Czechoslovakia's secret weapon.

CanAm

6,839 posts

236 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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There was a small museum devoted to Tatras in Bad Homburg near Frankfurt. Unfortunately it's now just run of the mill classics with nothing outstanding.

Red Devil

12,437 posts

172 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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21st Century Man said:
The Germans banned it's Officers from requisitioning and driving those during the war. It was fast for the time and with all the weight hung out behind the rear axle, it killed so many it became known as Czechoslovakia's secret weapon.
yes - https://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/czec... - the source for the first pic in my post.

Naturally Jay Leno has one. Love these comments:
It looks like a hearse and drives like a motorboat. ...driving a Tatra produces the uneasy exhilaration which may be got from shampooing a lion.
Ferdinand Porsche plagiarised Hans Ledwinka's designs when he and Erwin Komenda produced the KdF-Wagen (the Type 60 prototype of the VW Beetle).

Rostfritt

2,858 posts

115 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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Red Devil said:
yes - https://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/czec... - the source for the first pic in my post.

Naturally Jay Leno has one. Love these comments:
It looks like a hearse and drives like a motorboat. ...driving a Tatra produces the uneasy exhilaration which may be got from shampooing a lion.
Ferdinand Porsche plagiarised Hans Ledwinka's designs when he and Erwin Komenda produced the KdF-Wagen (the Type 60 prototype of the VW Beetle).
That is fascinating. I suppose it is down to this car that the Beetle and 911 are rear engined? That thing looks mad on every level, the three piece front windscreen looks like a bay window on a 30s semi, the middle headlight must have made it quite distinctive in the dark too.

P5BNij

8,444 posts

70 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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Chrysler's 70X concept of 1969 with sliding doors...




jsf

22,317 posts

200 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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Rostfritt said:
Red Devil said:
yes - https://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/czec... - the source for the first pic in my post.

Naturally Jay Leno has one. Love these comments:
It looks like a hearse and drives like a motorboat. ...driving a Tatra produces the uneasy exhilaration which may be got from shampooing a lion.
Ferdinand Porsche plagiarised Hans Ledwinka's designs when he and Erwin Komenda produced the KdF-Wagen (the Type 60 prototype of the VW Beetle).
That is fascinating. I suppose it is down to this car that the Beetle and 911 are rear engined? That thing looks mad on every level, the three piece front windscreen looks like a bay window on a 30s semi, the middle headlight must have made it quite distinctive in the dark too.
No, Porsche was designing and building rear engined cars well before WW2. I've never understood why people mention cooper as the inventor of the rear engined racing car when Auto Union were doing it in the 30's.

21st Century Man

35,293 posts

212 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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Porsche settled in the sixties and Volkswagen settled in the seventies. You don't do that for no good reason. Ledwinka got nowt though.

Bodo

11,113 posts

230 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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CanAm said:
There was a small museum devoted to Tatras in Bad Homburg near Frankfurt. Unfortunately it's now just run of the mill classics with nothing outstanding.
The Tatra theme was just a temporary exhibition - https://www.central-garage.de/fr%C3%BChere-ausstel...
Next up is Alvis.

CanAm

6,839 posts

236 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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Bodo said:
The Tatra theme was just a temporary exhibition - https://www.central-garage.de/fr%C3%BChere-ausstel...
Next up is Alvis.
Ah thanks Bodo. I also saw the "Women Accelerate' expo. The guy with the model shop on site is also brilliant.

Too late for the Alvis one unfortunately, as the friends I visit there are moving to Sweden in two weeks time.... hopefully!

JxJ Jr.

621 posts

34 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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Red Devil said:
Tatra 87. 'Suicide' front doors and air coooled V8 rear engine.
A great, if slightly baffling, period film of the later Tatra 603 which followed the same engine layout:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR6-ReQR45E

21st Century Man

35,293 posts

212 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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I've always fancied a T603, or even a T613/5 UK spec.

https://revivaler.com/tatra-613-there-arent-enough...

Edited by 21st Century Man on Saturday 11th April 18:01

tog

3,964 posts

192 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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21st Century Man said:
I've always fancied a T603, or even a T613/5 UK spec.

https://revivaler.com/tatra-613-there-arent-enough...

Edited by 21st Century Man on Saturday 11th April 18:01
I had a 613-4i for a few years a while back. Surprisingly good car, decent amount of pace and huge fun to drive. Mine was LHD but one of the last, with a 5-speed box and AC (non-working of course). You can upgrade the engine to T700 4.3 litre spec for more go, but it was allegedly 220bhp already, not bad for a 3.5-litre saloon of the day. Mine was a bit scruffy and I never had the skills or money to get on top of it, but I'd very happily have a good one again. How many other cars can you say have a rear-mid mounted, quad-cam, hemi-headed, all alloy, air-cooled V8?

21st Century Man

35,293 posts

212 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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I saw you in it once, at the tram museum at Crich, driving along the cobbles mixing it with the East German tram and all the Trabbies smile

poing

8,743 posts

164 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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The Nissan Pulsar NX, pick a back for the occasion.


Veeayt

3,139 posts

169 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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P5BNij said:
Chrysler's 70X concept of 1969 with sliding doors...



That is stunning

RosscoPCole

2,752 posts

138 months

Sunday 12th April 2020
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P5BNij said:
Chrysler's 70X concept of 1969 with sliding doors...



There would be a lot less complaining about having your door dented in the car park if car design went down that route. Also looks a lot cooler.
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