RE: Video: Key fob reprogrammers steal BMW in 3 mins

RE: Video: Key fob reprogrammers steal BMW in 3 mins

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405dogvan

5,326 posts

251 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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hman said:
As has been discussed previously, a stoplock through the wheel stops this kind of theft
There isn't a 'stoplock' being made which can't be removed in 2-3 mins using a can of compressed air and a hammer...

Shaw Tarse

31,140 posts

189 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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Anybody who is a member on BMW forums feel free to post a link to this thread.

Cupramax

10,173 posts

238 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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rev-erend said:
After watching the video - it looks like they actually push the car away..
So the owners dont hear it start smash

fathomfive

9,491 posts

176 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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rev-erend said:
After watching the video - it looks like they actually push the car away..
I thought it was to get it out of earshot before starting it up and raising suspicion.

ZesPak

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23,913 posts

182 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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405dogvan said:
Interior 'scanning' alarms have always been shonky and crap for this stuff - the way the technology works it's VERY hard to cover the whole interior without making 'false' triggers commonplace.

False triggers keep dealers very busy - and having to take your car into the dealer because the alarm keeps going off is bloody annoying and tends to cause manufacturers to score poorly on those customers satisfaction indexes.

Of course in this case there's a super-super-simple solution - if the alarm is armed and something connects to the OBD port, it should go off surely?

Then there's no need to fk around with the interior sensors...
Agreed, that's what I was getting at, not that it omits 4 inches, I can understand that, but the fact that the OBD port can be accessed without triggering it so it is put out of sight of the interior sensors, and accessible through a window?
That's imho the biggest design flaw.

MarJay

2,171 posts

161 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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Simple to sort, put a lockable cover over the OBD port. My BMW has a key that goes with the electronic doodad that passes for a key, so it wouldn't be beyond the wit of man to make the OBD port lockable...

E30M3SE

8,447 posts

182 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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rev-erend said:
After watching the video - it looks like they actually push the car away..
They do, less noise that way, and more time before the car is reported stolen and any possible tracker fitted activated.........

ZesPak

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23,913 posts

182 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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MarJay said:
Simple to sort, put a lockable cover over the OBD port. My BMW has a key that goes with the electronic doodad that passes for a key, so it wouldn't be beyond the wit of man to make the OBD port lockable...
yes, or like 405dogvan suggested:

alarm armed -> OBD port "used" -> sound alarm

Or, like you said, an alarm-triggered lockable cover.

MX7

7,902 posts

160 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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roger.daltrey said:
In reply to previous poster about the tracker - you can buy a 'jammer' from Amazon of all places

See this

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mini-Jammer-Blocker-Vehicl...

Only £20 and it blocks GPS

Didn't know it was this easy !!

Seems to make Trackers redundant if they are this easy to overcome ?
" the use and sale of GPS jammers is illegal"

misterdave

9 posts

135 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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I love the fact these people can steal our cars easily and yet we re charged from the dealer £70ish minimum to programme a key for our cars!! what are we paying this amount for? if it just makes our cars easy to steal? If anyone is stealing VWs in cornwall and wants to progrmme my spare key for me drop me an email at mister.dave88@gmail.com thanks.

tomoleeds

770 posts

172 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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hman said:
As has been discussed previously, a stoplock through the wheel stops this kind of theft

as does disconnecting one of the wires going to the OBD port- a simple mod.
stop lock does nothing they cut through steering wheel with a hacksaw

joshxs

3 posts

182 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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Can't the manufactures just put the OBD port in the engine bay? Chances are if the car is being serviced/diagnosed anyway that the bonnet will be up. You would need to alarm the bonnet, but I'm sure most bmws have this?

Will also save demolishing the interior trim looking for the obd port on a new vehicle.

E38Ross

31,965 posts

198 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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MarJay said:
Simple to sort, put a lockable cover over the OBD port. My BMW has a key that goes with the electronic doodad that passes for a key, so it wouldn't be beyond the wit of man to make the OBD port lockable...
daft isn't it. such a simple solution yet STILL hasn't been implemented. what a joke.

PetrolAholic

141 posts

168 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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Have a similar story to this but they weren't quite successful, my neighbor was coming home from the pub and saw 2 people tampering with my car (Audi RS4) and managed to scare them off, fortunately they hadn't damaged anything but I did visit my neighbor the next day with a rather large bottle of Whisky lol.

GroundEffect

12,978 posts

142 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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Kind of puts me off buying an E90 M3, especially given I live in the East London/Essex area where a lot of these seem to get stolen.


Aizle

12,429 posts

161 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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So PistonHeads, with all your industry contacts, I assume you have accidentally sent a link to BMW PR.

First time this story has made it to the front page of a huge motoring website?

ZesPak

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23,913 posts

182 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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misterdave said:
I love the fact these people can steal our cars easily and yet we re charged from the dealer £70ish minimum to programme a key for our cars!! what are we paying this amount for? if it just makes our cars easy to steal? If anyone is stealing VWs in cornwall and wants to progrmme my spare key for me drop me an email at mister.dave88@gmail.com thanks.
What car?
Exact address?
Closed garage or parking lot?

VladD

7,622 posts

251 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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MarJay said:
Simple to sort, put a lockable cover over the OBD port. My BMW has a key that goes with the electronic doodad that passes for a key, so it wouldn't be beyond the wit of man to make the OBD port lockable...
or put in a new OBD port and reroute the wiring there, whilst wiring the original port up to something very high voltage/ampage.

Riggers

1,859 posts

164 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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Aizle said:
So PistonHeads, with all your industry contacts, I assume you have accidentally sent a link to BMW PR.

First time this story has made it to the front page of a huge motoring website?
More than that - we spoke to BMW beforewriting the story, but they don't feel they can make any more comment than that which we've quoted.

roadwolf

180 posts

142 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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MX7 said:
So is stealing cars.laugh